The Houston Rockets land Kevin Martin for McGrady, Landry

echu888 - we saw what this team does when it knocks down its 3s against the Bucks last night. The whole scoring efficiency argument in favor of three point shots paired with Morey grabbing Budinger in the draft and now Martin suggests to me that Morey is remaking this team in "moneyball" fashion to take advantage of something that other GMs have failed to perceive in terms of the most effective way to put points on the board. We're moving closer to a time when every player on the court except for the guy playing faux-center is going to be capable of knocking down 3s.

Can't wait to see this team play.

rahat, that slamonline article about Martin has got me pumped. I believe Morey & Adelman's strategy revolves around throwing up a ton of 3s, drawing a lot of fouls (thru penetration on the offensive end and drawing charges on the defensive end). Thus you have a roster of non-traditional characters such as Battier, Hayes, and now Martin.

I'm really excited about this. Tough to lose Landry, but as stated, gotta give something to get something. We have some good redundancy in Scola in terms of being able to put the ball in the hole from the low post, so the net loss is not big.

But the effect of getting Martin is like getting another Kyle Lowry, but this one can shoot 3s.... The culmulative effect of Martin & Lowry getting to the hole and getting us into the bonus is going to have a tremendous effect on the games.

Even if this trade stands as is, I like it. Landry minutes would have inevitably fallen next year with Yao coming back, and there is no way the Rockets could afford to keep both Scola and Landry. Rather than losing one to free agency--and getting nothing back--now we get a very valuable player. Martin is a great offensive presence who complements Yao extremely well. I like a starting line-up of Brooks, Martin, Ariza, Yao, and Scola, with Hayes, Budinger, Lowry, Anderson and Battier off the bench. My only concern is defense--Martin and Brooks will score a ton, but can they stop other guards?

I think Morey is thinking the best chance for a championship is if we can keep Yao healthy through a playoff run. If we're running under the assumption that he is healthy, which is the only way we win a championship anyway, then you need a scoring wing more than another big.

Is this our Thorpe for Drexler trade? Scroll all the way down for the answer.

No.

The four spot was getting crowded, scola should'nt be splitting too much time with someone else. we will have cap space this summer. think battier for gay, think alston for lowry... in morey we trust, in morey we trust

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I am eagerly waiting for your thoughts on Martin. I hope you have seen him play a lil bit.

thanks

Not to jump the gun, but does the Rox starting five become Brooks, Martin, Battier, Ariza, Scola? Or does one of the forwards (Ariza?) get pushed to the bench with Chuckwagon staying at C?

And IF Yao makes it back, doesn't Brooks, Martin, Battier, Scola, Ming look pretty fierce as a core?

In just over a year, Landry will be making close to K-mart money. We're playing Texas Hold-em right now. We have the pieces to package a deal to someone who may have wanted K-mart badly. Regardless of how this turns out, we have traded a great 6th man for a needed starter as it stands right now, and by itself that's not too bad.....

depends on if they can get more with a 3-way. we'll have to wait.

This looks like a horrible deal for the Rockets and completely stunned we would give up Landry to get a player who can't stay injury free. How this could end up as a coup for the Rockets I can't see it.

definitely not dismayed - martin is a better player than landry. just shocked because daryl morey has never even come close to paying full value in a trade; so the initial report was a shock to read.

Maybe, like you said, Morey saw Landry's ultimate value in the fact that he was undervalued. Surely he can pluck another quality four from under someone else's nose. In Morey we trust, right.

And look at all the expirings that come fastened to Kevin "I'm a genius at getting to the free throw line" Martin! I hope you're stunned, as in startled, not dismayed.

echu888 - we saw what this team does when it knocks down its 3s against the Bucks last night. The whole scoring efficiency argument in favor of three point shots paired with Morey grabbing Budinger in the draft and now Martin suggests to me that Morey is remaking this team in "moneyball" fashion to take advantage of something that other GMs have failed to perceive in terms of the most effective way to put points on the board. We're moving closer to a time when every player on the court except for the guy playing faux-center is going to be capable of knocking down 3s.

Can't wait to see this team play.

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rahat, that slamonline article about Martin has got me pumped. I believe Morey & Adelman's strategy revolves around throwing up a ton of 3s, drawing a lot of fouls (thru penetration on the offensive end and drawing charges on the defensive end). Thus you have a roster of non-traditional characters such as Battier, Hayes, and now Martin.

I'm really excited about this. Tough to lose Landry, but as stated, gotta give something to get something. We have some good redundancy in Scola in terms of being able to put the ball in the hole from the low post, so the net loss is not big.

But the effect of getting Martin is like getting another Kyle Lowry, but this one can shoot 3s.... The culmulative effect of Martin & Lowry getting to the hole and getting us into the bonus is going to have a tremendous effect on the games.

Even if this trade stands as is, I like it. Landry minutes would have inevitably fallen next year with Yao coming back, and there is no way the Rockets could afford to keep both Scola and Landry. Rather than losing one to free agency--and getting nothing back--now we get a very valuable player. Martin is a great offensive presence who complements Yao extremely well. I like a starting line-up of Brooks, Martin, Ariza, Yao, and Scola, with Hayes, Budinger, Lowry, Anderson and Battier off the bench. My only concern is defense--Martin and Brooks will score a ton, but can they stop other guards?

I think Morey is thinking the best chance for a championship is if we can keep Yao healthy through a playoff run. If we're running under the assumption that he is healthy, which is the only way we win a championship anyway, then you need a scoring wing more than another big.

Is this our Thorpe for Drexler trade? Scroll all the way down for the answer.

No.

The four spot was getting crowded, scola should'nt be splitting too much time with someone else. we will have cap space this summer. think battier for gay, think alston for lowry... in morey we trust, in morey we trust

In just over a year, Landry will be making close to K-mart money. We're playing Texas Hold-em right now. We have the pieces to package a deal to someone who may have wanted K-mart badly. Regardless of how this turns out, we have traded a great 6th man for a needed starter as it stands right now, and by itself that's not too bad.....

depends on if they can get more with a 3-way. we'll have to wait.

This looks like a horrible deal for the Rockets and completely stunned we would give up Landry to get a player who can't stay injury free. How this could end up as a coup for the Rockets I can't see it.

definitely not dismayed - martin is a better player than landry. just shocked because daryl morey has never even come close to paying full value in a trade; so the initial report was a shock to read.

Maybe, like you said, Morey saw Landry's ultimate value in the fact that he was undervalued. Surely he can pluck another quality four from under someone else's nose. In Morey we trust, right.

And look at all the expirings that come fastened to Kevin "I'm a genius at getting to the free throw line" Martin! I hope you're stunned, as in startled, not dismayed.

bob - it's funny. my jaw dropped when i read the report. literally. but then i read the new york reports, and you have this feeling this could end up huge.

luis - that kings team is literally stacked with young talent. its sickening.

I hope they get a great deal, but at least a part of me has to support the Kings now, Landry is a favorite. Hopefully he gets a chance to start, I'm not sure how they play people but from what I've read Casspi does guard SFs. Based on last night's starting lineups, Landry could start in place of Donte Green. He'll have a fun time cleaning up after Tyreke's drives!

For the Rockets, I also want to hold off judgment until the entire trade is complete...

The next 8 hours will be interesting, more trading is likely on the way. When the dust settles, we'll have plenty to talk about. Big changes with long term implications are probable.

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