More on Greg Smith

Yesterday, Ming Wang penned this fabulous piece on Greg Smith, articulating the big man’s progress this year.  On one point, however, I disagree:

While Smith lacks even a rudimentary post-game or a spot up jumper, the ability to score as a roll man can pay huge dividends for a team offensively (see Tyson Chandler on the Knicks).

I had actually planned to write on the very topic of Smith’s offensive repertoire last week after noticing a few things during a particular home game, but never got around to it.  On one night–my memory on these things really escapes me these days–I distinctly recall Smith facing up his man a few feet out from the basket, turning, and then nailing a turnaround.  Later in the same game, he caught it in the post and delivered a baby hook over his left shoulder.

I’m still in search for the word I want to properly describe what I saw from those two moves.  I’m not sure one exists.  It was just this ‘fluidity’ or ‘flexibility’ that no Rockets big man (save for Luis Scola) has had for some time.  Even those words aren’t appropriate.

You know how when Patrick Patterson or Omer Asik make a move, even though they’re moving, it almost seems like their joints won’t move?  Seriously.  When most bigs nowadays, or at least recent Rockets bigs, have worked in the post, it’s almost looked like there was some sort of medical condition which didn’t allow their wrists to bend.  They would/will take hook shots, but it almost appears as if they are just throwing the ball at the basket rather than shooting it.

That’s not the case with Smith.  He has that angular ‘bendiness’ to his movements which make things seem so promising.  That quality, coupled with his size, makes one really hope that the Rockets make the proper investments into this prospect.  As the season progresses, I’d really like to see Smith get one or two reps in the post per game, just to see how he handles it.  He’s been up to the task thus far.

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  • ale11 says 1 month ago The kid showed potential, but clearly he is not ready yet. We all got caught up in excitement because he proved he can play, but maybe not consistently yet. Let's hope he figures it out
  • Red94 says 1 month ago New post: Greg Smith demoted to the Vipers
  • DaDakota says 3 months ago I love Greg Smith, was pissed off when they cut him last year - I do question his listed height though, but he reminds me more of Otis Thorpe than any Rocket since.

    DD
  • mingwang says 3 months ago Good points by Stephen and Rahat. I'll admit I hadn't noticed Smith's post moves; I'll be on the lookout for them when they play Memphis tonight.
  • feelingsupersonic says 3 months ago The game Huq might be recalling might have been the Wizards game because I remember those moves but I must admit the defense they played on Smith wasn't all that challenging if my memory serves me right. In that game against the Wizards at Toyota Center Smith also had a turnover or two from his clumsiness down low. He is young and will develop his game as well as gain a level of comfort that comes with time on the court.

    Maybe Greg Smith turns out to be Carl Landry 2.0 for the Rockets. That high motor big off the bench that has enough energy to make an impact and not be an undersized liability. Whereas Landry is 6'8" with a 6'11" wingspan Smith is a true 6'10" with a 7'3" wingspan according to Draft Express profiles. I do not envision a scenario where Smith would challenge Asik or even satisfactorily supplement what he does and in actuality Smith could be that Taj Gibson type role player off the bench which would be very valuable to a strong 8 to 9 man rotation.
  • Bigtkirk says 3 months ago This Wages of Wins blog post notes that Smith is the most productive bench player in the league so far this season:

    http://wagesofwins.com/2012/12/20/the-mvp-race-part-2-depth-charts-least-valuable-players-and-the-sunk-cost-fallacy/
  • bboley24 says 3 months ago Haha! "Bendiness" I like it Rahat! Dare I say... "Dream-like" flexibility?
  • rockets best fan says 3 months ago no doubt the rockets may have found an unpolished diamond in smith. I can't believe with all the scoutting done in the league that this guy went undrafted. kudos to the rockets for doing their homework. I don't think he is a threat to asik right now, but by next year asik may be looking over his shoulder a bit. this is the most excited I have been about rockets bigs since...........well since yao in his hey day. I'm not saying I think one of these guy has a chance to be as good, but this is the 1st time in a long time we have had real high ceiling talent at that position. I know some in the fourm are calling for us to trade for a big at PF,but whats happening at center now will happen at PF given time. which is why I would rather see the rockets stand pat at those positions (center,PF) unless love or cousin or someone like that becomes available. all these guy need is time to develope. if we are patient we may already have that which we think we need.
  • Red94 says 3 months ago New post: More on Greg Smith
  • bob schmidt says 3 months ago I love the simplicity of Greg's game. He competes on every play, and seems to be under control better than many veterans. Not to mention that he occupies a lot of space when in the paint. The other aspect that impresses me is his attitude. Instead of trying to call attention to himself as is the new norm for a lot of players, he remains humble and anxious to improve his skills. In short, he is wise beyond his years and a great asset for the team...
  • Alituro says 3 months ago So, would Smith be the Rockets' version of Arian Foster? He is definitely a diamond in the rough. A little more confidence and participation from him and we will see him develop the post up game and not be trigger shy on jump shots. He should be a decent jump shooter judging from his success at the line. I can understand his hesitance to work out of his comfort zone right now given that he's trying to solidify his part in the rotations. Once he starts seeing regular play time we should see him trying other aspects of his game. He's very young. Kudos to the Rockets player development program. It's hard not to root for this kid. Nice write-up.
  • rocketrick says 3 months ago Great article on Greg Smith and well written by Ming. I for one am pleased that Greg Smith is a Rocket. However, I don't see him overtaking Asik in the starting lineup as implied by Johnny Rocket in his comments because Asik brings so much more to the team on the defensive end of the court. I also expect that Asik's offensive game will improve over time as well. Still, Greg Smith is a key role player for our team now and into the foreseeable future in my opinion. I expect we'll see a few more 20+ point/10+ rebound games from him as the season plays out, too.
  • Johnny Rocket says 3 months ago Great article. If Smith is indeed more effective with the starters, does that imply that he should start, at least at some point in February and March? I suspect his fairly high foul rate is the reason he comes off the bench, but at some point he's going to be much better than Asik (if he isn't there already).
  • Jeby says 3 months ago The amazing thing to me about Smith's offensive success is that it's so simple: Hands and Hops. He catches everything, goes up with it immediately, and his elevation and reach are so tremendous that he will either dunk or get fouled. His movement to find space without the ball is good too, but not as good as Asik's.
    So next time you hear Jay Bilas ranting about "great hands!" "36-inch vertical!" "WINGSPAN!" remember Greg Smith. Dude had some of the best measurables in last year's draft, but some of the least polished skills--the polar opposite of Marcus Morris, by the way. After just one season, those two guys are having roughly the same amount of success.
  • Stephen says 3 months ago Ming,
    Smith has shown a nice jump hook in the post on the few occasions he's been fed on the low post. It is much smoother,more powerful and more accurate than Patterson's.
  • NorEastern says 3 months ago A great article! I do find it interesting that the Rockets young players are seeming to embrace and make the most of their D-League assignments. White of course is excluded. When Patterson and Morris went down it seemed to foster acrimony. I believe that the team and the rookies will benefit immensely from the relationship, and the young players will improve quicker.
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