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@  YaoMan : (21 December 2014 - 01:53 AM) They can't do anything right now. ATL is getting layups after layups and Rox can't throw the ball in the ocean...
@  txtdo1411 : (20 December 2014 - 05:10 PM) I disagree Cooper. He is a fairly good handler and passer, so I could see him cutting into Canaan's minutes with the second unit.
@  Cooper : (20 December 2014 - 12:24 AM) Ideally shved isn't going to play a whole lot
@  jorgeaam : (20 December 2014 - 12:22 AM) Philly has become the official dumpster of the nba
@  YaoMan : (20 December 2014 - 12:20 AM) Giving Rockets lots of options. Terry and Shved can play together when Harden and Bev are resting...
@  jorgeaam : (20 December 2014 - 12:18 AM) He's 6'6 and can handle the ball
@  jorgeaam : (20 December 2014 - 12:18 AM) Yes, Shved is probably playing PG/SG
@  YaoMan : (20 December 2014 - 12:15 AM) Is Shved going to play back up PG? Would that also mean Papa gets more time at the 4?
@  YaoMan : (20 December 2014 - 12:04 AM) Shved is coming to the Rockets too???
@  jorgeaam : (19 December 2014 - 11:37 PM) Alexey Shved has been traded to the Rockets in exchange for Ronny Turiaf./ Rockets waive G/F Francisco Garcia.
@  jorgeaam : (19 December 2014 - 11:37 PM) There we go
@  thenit : (19 December 2014 - 10:16 PM) I think Morey wanted Brewer from the get go. But he got them mixed up last season and got the wrong one.
@  YaoMan : (19 December 2014 - 09:43 PM) With Brewer, the Rox can have superior defense all around. Imagine Brewer, Ariza, Howard and Bev pestering the heck out of opposing offenses...
@  Mario Peña : (19 December 2014 - 08:32 PM) This is good news and hopefully Brewer slips right in.
@  YaoMan : (19 December 2014 - 08:04 PM) I like Troy but Brewer will definitely help the Rox
@  jorgeaam : (19 December 2014 - 08:03 PM) Turiaf is out for the year, so he is definitely going somewhere else, Rockets not done trading
@  jorgeaam : (19 December 2014 - 08:02 PM) Here's another link http://sports.yahoo....-194852845.html
@  Cooper : (19 December 2014 - 08:02 PM) brewer for daniels possibly with turiaf going somewhere
@  jorgeaam : (19 December 2014 - 08:01 PM) Along with Brewer is Turiaf, traded Troy Daniels and the Rockets must waive somebody
@  jorgeaam : (19 December 2014 - 08:00 PM) https://twitter.com/...025897019846656

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In Greg Smith, Rockets Find Another Hidden Gem


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#1 Red94

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 01:46 AM

New post: In Greg Smith, Rockets Find Another Hidden Gem
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#2 NorEastern

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 04:23 AM

A great article! I do find it interesting that the Rockets young players are seeming to embrace and make the most of their D-League assignments. White of course is excluded. When Patterson and Morris went down it seemed to foster acrimony. I believe that the team and the rookies will benefit immensely from the relationship, and the young players will improve quicker.
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Posted 20 December 2012 - 04:25 AM

Ming,
Smith has shown a nice jump hook in the post on the few occasions he's been fed on the low post. It is much smoother,more powerful and more accurate than Patterson's.
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Posted 20 December 2012 - 04:40 AM

The amazing thing to me about Smith's offensive success is that it's so simple: Hands and Hops. He catches everything, goes up with it immediately, and his elevation and reach are so tremendous that he will either dunk or get fouled. His movement to find space without the ball is good too, but not as good as Asik's.
So next time you hear Jay Bilas ranting about "great hands!" "36-inch vertical!" "WINGSPAN!" remember Greg Smith. Dude had some of the best measurables in last year's draft, but some of the least polished skills--the polar opposite of Marcus Morris, by the way. After just one season, those two guys are having roughly the same amount of success.
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Posted 20 December 2012 - 05:44 AM

Great article. If Smith is indeed more effective with the starters, does that imply that he should start, at least at some point in February and March? I suspect his fairly high foul rate is the reason he comes off the bench, but at some point he's going to be much better than Asik (if he isn't there already).
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Posted 20 December 2012 - 09:06 AM

Great article on Greg Smith and well written by Ming. I for one am pleased that Greg Smith is a Rocket. However, I don't see him overtaking Asik in the starting lineup as implied by Johnny Rocket in his comments because Asik brings so much more to the team on the defensive end of the court. I also expect that Asik's offensive game will improve over time as well. Still, Greg Smith is a key role player for our team now and into the foreseeable future in my opinion. I expect we'll see a few more 20+ point/10+ rebound games from him as the season plays out, too.
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Posted 20 December 2012 - 02:17 PM

So, would Smith be the Rockets' version of Arian Foster? He is definitely a diamond in the rough. A little more confidence and participation from him and we will see him develop the post up game and not be trigger shy on jump shots. He should be a decent jump shooter judging from his success at the line. I can understand his hesitance to work out of his comfort zone right now given that he's trying to solidify his part in the rotations. Once he starts seeing regular play time we should see him trying other aspects of his game. He's very young. Kudos to the Rockets player development program. It's hard not to root for this kid. Nice write-up.
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Posted 20 December 2012 - 03:43 PM

I love the simplicity of Greg's game. He competes on every play, and seems to be under control better than many veterans. Not to mention that he occupies a lot of space when in the paint. The other aspect that impresses me is his attitude. Instead of trying to call attention to himself as is the new norm for a lot of players, he remains humble and anxious to improve his skills. In short, he is wise beyond his years and a great asset for the team...
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Posted 20 December 2012 - 07:30 PM

New post: More on Greg Smith
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Posted 20 December 2012 - 10:22 PM

no doubt the rockets may have found an unpolished diamond in smith. I can't believe with all the scoutting done in the league that this guy went undrafted. kudos to the rockets for doing their homework. I don't think he is a threat to asik right now, but by next year asik may be looking over his shoulder a bit. this is the most excited I have been about rockets bigs since...........well since yao in his hey day. I'm not saying I think one of these guy has a chance to be as good, but this is the 1st time in a long time we have had real high ceiling talent at that position. I know some in the fourm are calling for us to trade for a big at PF,but whats happening at center now will happen at PF given time. which is why I would rather see the rockets stand pat at those positions (center,PF) unless love or cousin or someone like that becomes available. all these guy need is time to develope. if we are patient we may already have that which we think we need.
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you can only warn a man that the bridge is out.....if he keeps driving he's on his own B)


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Posted 21 December 2012 - 06:20 AM

Haha! "Bendiness" I like it Rahat! Dare I say... "Dream-like" flexibility?
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Posted 21 December 2012 - 11:41 AM

This Wages of Wins blog post notes that Smith is the most productive bench player in the league so far this season:

http://wagesofwins.c...k-cost-fallacy/
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Posted 21 December 2012 - 06:36 PM

The game Huq might be recalling might have been the Wizards game because I remember those moves but I must admit the defense they played on Smith wasn't all that challenging if my memory serves me right. In that game against the Wizards at Toyota Center Smith also had a turnover or two from his clumsiness down low. He is young and will develop his game as well as gain a level of comfort that comes with time on the court.

Maybe Greg Smith turns out to be Carl Landry 2.0 for the Rockets. That high motor big off the bench that has enough energy to make an impact and not be an undersized liability. Whereas Landry is 6'8" with a 6'11" wingspan Smith is a true 6'10" with a 7'3" wingspan according to Draft Express profiles. I do not envision a scenario where Smith would challenge Asik or even satisfactorily supplement what he does and in actuality Smith could be that Taj Gibson type role player off the bench which would be very valuable to a strong 8 to 9 man rotation.
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Posted 22 December 2012 - 04:11 PM

Good points by Stephen and Rahat. I'll admit I hadn't noticed Smith's post moves; I'll be on the lookout for them when they play Memphis tonight.
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Posted 24 December 2012 - 04:28 PM

I love Greg Smith, was pissed off when they cut him last year - I do question his listed height though, but he reminds me more of Otis Thorpe than any Rocket since.

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 05:58 AM

New post: Greg Smith demoted to the Vipers
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Posted 13 February 2013 - 01:46 AM

The kid showed potential, but clearly he is not ready yet. We all got caught up in excitement because he proved he can play, but maybe not consistently yet. Let's hope he figures it out
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