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• phaketrash says 3 months ago

  You're reading waaaaaaaay too much into what I said. Mostly, I think I am done with this. You guys have fun.

  Which part? I thought I was just responding to your question on relevancy, and disagreeing about patterns in general. Some of that was more akin to personal musings that are, as I pointed out, unrelated to the topic at hand.

• thejohnnygold says 3 months ago

  You're reading waaaaaaaay too much into what I said. Mostly, I think I am done with this. You guys have fun.

• 2016Champions says 3 months ago

  I think McHale has done a good job considering how young his team is, it's not easy to teach a bunch of young guys new plays. With that being said, I fully expect McHale to spend time teaching them plays the upcoming off-season and if he doesn't I will call for his head! lol

• phaketrash says 3 months ago

  Well, I wasn't discussing the population as a whole so not sure if that is very relevant.

  regarding Asik....my only guess is he is a bad free throw shooter???

  I'm not one for the status quo. Lin not finishing games as the starter is abnormal based on what has always been done before. I love stepping away from what has always been done. We barely lost those two games recently when Lin was benched...had we won those I think opinions around here would be different--for some at least. Regarding patterns, it is almost always the case that when we believe there is no pattern what is actually true is we just cannot see it yet. Our sample sizes are small. Over time, an underlying reasoning will emerge.

  I assumed that nba players, when it comes to consistency (or the yearning for it), they would be representative of the overall population. Is there a reason why they would be a different self-selected/biased group?

  Regarding patterns, I don't know if that is always the case. It is always the case that humans try to find a pattern where none exists lol. Not saying that applies in this situation at all -- I'm sure there is some rhyme or reason to McHale's decisions -- but just in general (as an aside), sometimes there just isn't a pattern lol.

  I found this on youtube btw. SUPER long and I have not watched the whole thing yet myself (working), but it sure seems interesting hahaha.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=MPStYh4Zxj8

• thejohnnygold says 3 months ago

  Well, I wasn't discussing the population as a whole so not sure if that is very relevant.

  regarding Asik....my only guess is he is a bad free throw shooter???

  I'm not one for the status quo. Lin not finishing games as the starter is abnormal based on what has always been done before. I love stepping away from what has always been done. We barely lost those two games recently when Lin was benched...had we won those I think opinions around here would be different--for some at least. Regarding patterns, it is almost always the case that when we believe there is no pattern what is actually true is we just cannot see it yet. Our sample sizes are small. Over time, an underlying reasoning will emerge.

• phaketrash says 3 months ago

  I will add though that the +/- numbers when Lin is on the floor in close games (<5 pt diff. w/ <5 min left) is kinda ugly. Asik's is one of the best though, so always surprised when he's not there tbh.

• phaketrash says 3 months ago

  Not to be Captain Obvious, but McHale does not answer to us--he answers to Morey and Alexander. I'm pretty sure they are watching the games too. I'm pretty sure that whatever the reason is everyone is ok with it. This is just underlying aggression manifesting any way it can to support a dislike of our current coach....also known as grasping at straws.

  It's fine if you don't like his substitution patterns or lack of consistency. I wouldn't read too much into it. There are people who do fine without the need for patterns or consistency.

  Personally, I think it helps the team overall to maintain a mental edge as nobody knows when they will be called upon to play. They have to stay focused and ready. It also means the opponents cannot plan ahead in anticipation of our 4th quarter line-ups....for all we know McHale is tracking their players' minutes and forcing the opponent to play "tired" guys to match up vs. our fresh ones to close out the games hoping to gain an edge there. It's all speculation on our part and I would be surprised if it was done willy-nilly.

  eh, I don't know about people who do fine without consistency or patterns. That is just not true on a population-wide level lol. People CRAVE consistency and patterns. Sure exceptions exist, but I don't like to take exceptions into account unless there is already a clear reason why a very small minority issue applies.

  I agree with timetodie on this. McHale seems erratic when he benches players like Lin and Asik in certain times. I don't like it. Sure there are a million reasons why he does it, but since no one can know, let's just pretend there is an imaginary disclaimer that exists before everyone's comments on this issue, regardless of their position (unless one's position is to just never comment on a whole subset of the Rockets organization as there are TONS of things that rely on perception-only).

  I don't think McHalehates Lin, but I also don't think Morey and McHale are 100% eye to eye on this thing. Morey would rather develop an asset in certain situations while McHale just wants to win his game. They're prob 90% eye to eye though, which is good enough, but you do end up with situations where it is like, o.O. Geez, we're at the point where a starting PG finishing the game isnoteworthy by the writer. You'd think it'd be the other way around.

• thejohnnygold says 3 months ago

  It's true....it's almost perfect anarchy...there is only one rule...love your team!

• timetodienow1234567 says 3 months ago

  Precisely, but that's what fans do. They speculate, sometimes with facts on their sides, sometimes without. That's part of the joy of being a fan.

• thejohnnygold says 3 months ago

  Not to be Captain Obvious, but McHale does not answer to us--he answers to Morey and Alexander. I'm pretty sure they are watching the games too. I'm pretty sure that whatever the reason is everyone is ok with it. This is just underlying aggression manifesting any way it can to support a dislike of our current coach....also known as grasping at straws.

  It's fine if you don't like his substitution patterns or lack of consistency. I wouldn't read too much into it. There are people who do fine without the need for patterns or consistency.

  Personally, I think it helps the team overall to maintain a mental edge as nobody knows when they will be called upon to play. They have to stay focused and ready. It also means the opponents cannot plan ahead in anticipation of our 4th quarter line-ups....for all we know McHale is tracking their players' minutes and forcing the opponent to play "tired" guys to match up vs. our fresh ones to close out the games hoping to gain an edge there. It's all speculation on our part and I would be surprised if it was done willy-nilly.

• Jason says 3 months ago

  I don't see him as an all-star with Mchale as the coach. I don't think Mchale hates Lin, I just don't think that he likes his game that much. It's hard to improve in sports if you don't have a coach that believes in you.

  
  Disagree. I don't see any evidence that he doesn't like his game. He's a young PG who is still developing and still going through growing pains. McHale benching him at times is simply a product of this. If he didn't like his game he wouldn't start and wouldn't be averaging 32 mins per game.
• timetodienow1234567 says 3 months ago

  I don't see him as an all-star with Mchale as the coach. I don't think Mchale hates Lin, I just don't think that he likes his game that much. It's hard to improve in sports if you don't have a coach that believes in you.

• Jason says 3 months ago Yeah, I actually don't see it that way at all that McHale hates Lin. I think the benching him at times is the right decision as he can become erratic and does not have the same spot up shooting and defensive ability as Beverly. McHale is just trying to win games based on the situation. It's nothing personal against Lin. That being said, I fully expect Lin to improve quite a bit this offseason. It would not surprise me to see him as an All-Star within the next couple years.
• timetodienow1234567 says 3 months ago

  I don't expect greatness from Lin this year. He's performing about as well as could be hoped playing the majority of the time as the off-guard(see Steve Nash this year). It's just that Mchale pulls Lin and there's no rhyme or reason that most people can see. He doesn't get pulled consistently at the same time, so rest isn't the issue (sometimes he's pulled at the 7 minute mark, the 6 minutes mark, the 3 minute mark, and rarely goes the whole quarter). Sometimes he doesn't play much if at all in the 4th. Once, that was justifiable by how lights out Beverley was playing, but the other times didn't make sense to me. The inconsistencies he shows towards Lin and to a lesser extent Asik confuse me as a fan. I think Lin will overcome that and has proven that he wants to succeed and is improving. Maybe that's Mchale's secret master plan, I don't know. I just would like some consistency from the man that's our head coach. Is that too much to ask for?

• PKM says 3 months ago

  In that it doesn't...happen?

  The whole "McHale hates Lin so he doesn't play him in the 4th quarter" thing is really overblown. I wrote in an earlier recap that I think a lot of it is because the fans have greater expectations from Lin then they do from the other pieces surrounding Harden, even though I don't think Lin should be viewed that way.

• phaketrash says 3 months ago

  I've openly maintained that I believe that the whole Lin-McHale-4th quarter thing is just so, so silly.

  In that it doesn't...happen?

• PKM says 3 months ago

  Great article, but I have to ask what silly controversy?

  I've openly maintained that I believe that the whole Lin-McHale-4th quarter thing is just so, so silly.

• timetodienow1234567 says 3 months ago

  Great article, but I have to ask what silly controversy?

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