The Rockets Daily – June 4, 2014

Door #2 - On the eve of the 2014 NBA Finals, still haunted by Damian Lillard every time I close my eyes at night, it’s finally time to come out of hiding and talk some Rockets.

Houston has made the first big personnel move of the not-quite-here-yet offseason by declining the final year of Chandler Parsons’ rookie contract, making him a restricted free agent this summer.

The Rockets hold a $960,000 option on the fourth and final year of Parsons’ contract for the 2014-’15 season, but want to avoid letting Parsons, 25, become an unrestricted free agent next summer. As a restricted free agent in July, the Rockets can match an offer sheet and retain Parsons on a long-term contract.

The Rockets have until June 30 to formally decline the option.      

There are many schools of thought as to what Morey might be thinking with this move.  The simplest is that Morey just wants to avoid a big-money auction next summer when Parsons and his agent, Dan Fegan, could be looking for the highest bidder.  I agree with Rahat completely that Parsons is not worth $12-13 million a year, but small market teams that need the kind of talent and marketability that Parsons brings can’t be counted on to spend wisely.  Couldn’t you see Orlando (only Chandler’s childhood team) offer Parsons 4 years, $48 million to be their veteran presence and the face of their young roster?  Or a young team (Cleveland, perhaps?) that thinks they are finally ready to make a move into playoff contention could see Parsons’ do-it-all game as the missing piece.  I don’t know what would happen were he to actually hit unrestricted free agency next summer, but I do know that if Tyreke Evans can get $11 million a year from the Pelicans, Chandler Parsons would make a pretty penny in the open market.

Another theory (cosigned by Mr. 94 himself), is that by temporarily clearing Parsons’ remaining $964,750 from the cap sheet, the Rockets are that much closer to freeing up the space needed to acquire Carmelo Anthony.  While I do believe Houston is one of the top 2-3 potential landing spots for Melo, New York’s hiring of Phil Jackson makes things tricky, as the old Knicks regime was surely higher on Jeremy Lin than the Zen Master will be should trade options ever be explored.

But the ways in which Houston could acquire Melo are numerous, and with a creative genius like Morey doing the maneuvering, contemplating the possibilities seems pointless.  The other major move the Rockets could make can only happen one way, a Morey specialty: a big-time trade.

While others are seeing potential Parsons-sign-and-trade possibilities in exchange for another All-Star, getting him to commit to a frozen basketball-hell like Minnesota or cap-hell in New York seems like quite a hurdle.  What I’ve yet to see anywhere is the off chance that Morey is planning on waiting-out Flip Saunders and the Timber Wolves on the inevitable Kevin Love trade.  For now, the Wolves are dead set on keeping Love and will almost certainly go into the season with him as their starting power forward.  But unless Minnesota starts out blazing like Portland did last season (pun intended) when they saved their relationship with LaMarcus Aldridge, the Wolves will eventually come to the conclusion that everyone else in the NBA did long ago: they have to trade Love.

Parsons would be available for trade by mid-December, right about the time you’d expect an 11-games below .500 Minnesota to come to that dreadful realization.  And while Minny would more than likely prefer a top-draft pick to anything Houston can offer, unless teams get the nod from Love that he’d be interested in resigning with them, no team is going to give up that kind of hooch for a rental.  That’s why I just don’t see anyone in the top-6 of this year’s draft getting a deal done; Love would not resign with a single one of them.

If this scenario plays out like the past few small-market defections, Love will provide a short list of teams he would resign with, and the Wolves will be forced to negotiate with those teams for the best deal.  So, assuming Minnesota can’t get the type of pick protection they want from a team, could an offer of Parsons (at, say, $11 mill.), Terrence Jones and a picks-package be enough to make Saunders blink?  If you recall, two years ago it was Minnesota who tried to outbid Portland for Parsons’ most comparable doppelganger, Nic Batum, when he was a restricted free agent.  ‘Sota still needs a small forward and Parsons is certainly better than having to take back David Lee or Carlos Boozer in other popular trade scenarios, although Chicago does have the Nikola Mirotic chip that could win the day.

It would be a ballsy move by Morey, matching any Parsons deal this summer and ending his love affair with a flexible cap sheet, with the intention of trading him for the most (realistically) sought-after player in the league right now.  But the Wolves would never have a shot at a guy like Parsons in free agency, and with the ink still drying on his contract, he would have no choice but to report and hope Ricky Rubio finally figures it out.

Then again, Daryl Morey might have something else up his sleeve.  Maybe he just keeps Parsons outright and uses his remaining budget to strengthen the bench; let the James Harden/Dwight Howard experiment breathe a little before making anymore major moves. Or, Rajon Rondo, Dirk Nowitzki and Kyrie Irving among others could be had either this summer or in the next 12 months.

Signing Parsons without Melo or Love in tow would cramp the Rockets’ cap sheet and hinder future movement, but if the last few years have taught us anything, it’s that Morey is always thinking two moves ahead.  The man’s got a plan.

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Total comments: 60
  • feelingsupersonic says 3 months ago Sorry Bucko, I just don't even see Lebron registering Houston on his radar plus I also believe he has joined the Miami Mafia for good. I mean I fantasize about Durant joining Harden sometimes, at least I call it my Durant Dream.
  • thenit says 3 months ago

    Whatever happens in the finals, Lebron will never leave the East for no amount of money. Why would you like to go through a minefield of great teams from the 1st round all the way to the finals where in the East its a cakewalk until the ECF no matter what happens this summer with free agents. He is chasing as many championships because he is in his own mind on the path to be the GOAT. So he is not that dumb that he would leave the East.

  • Cooper says 3 months ago

    That potential team would be very good no doubt but I don't see how lebron says no to Pat Riley after four straight finals, and if lebron doesn't get cramps the heat are right in that game I wouldn't count them out for the series.

  • rocketrick says 3 months ago Pipe dream.
  • Buckko says 3 months ago

    @Buckko

    hate to rain on a man's dream, but that's a pipe dream. Lebron will either resign with Miami 98% or go home to Cleveland 2%. I don't see any other real possibilities.

    Like I said he is after championships, and God knows cleveland can't give him one, and if he decides the heat have reached their expiration date. Well there is always a possibility, especially when Daryl Morey is your GM.

  • rockets best fan says 3 months ago

    @Buckko

    hate to rain on a man's dream, but that's a pipe dream. Lebron will either resign with Miami 98% or go home to Cleveland 2%. I don't see any other real possibilities.

  • Buckko says 3 months ago

    I know this sounds as mad as a hatter, but depending on this final series and the heat lose or they lose badly like tonight and severe signs of age or need of change show. Morey might not be making bosh, love, or even Melo priority number 1. Shh I'm about to rock the boat here, "Lebron". Now before I'm crucified for being too ludicrous which many of you know me as a tad bit crazy. Take reason, lebron is probably setting his sights on the next team ready to propel him to championships for the next few years while he is still in his prime. The complements of a couple of stars, depth, and a bit more youth would be the main attraction. Maybe the heat can be that, you tell me. However we all know the rockets can and would provide that.

    To make the business side of matters short, garcia opts out of his player option (which he has stated he will), un-guarantee casspi's contract, unload lin along with the 25th pick to the 76ers, and unload asik and maybe demo too if needed to the Celtics for free (who if manage to trade for love, forming a core of asik, rondo, and love, players that fit each other perfectly while probably becoming the #1 seed in the east in a Miami breakdown event). This would free up near max to offer lebron while keeping valuable youth in jones, cannan, covington, daniels, the 42nd pick along with resigning parsons after signing lebron. A starting 5 of Beverley, Harden, Parsons, Lebron, Howard would be... unstoppable. Arguably the most talented super team ever formed.

    Quick Notes how this could have shock wave changes on the rockets .

    We keep our youth while veterans would be flocking to join this superteam where the rockets could easily pick up needs such as back up in center in okafor or elton brand for example.

    Hopefully with Parson's new contract and lebron help taking some of the offensive load, parsons can revert back to his promising defensive abilities during his rookie season.

    Harden probably won't have to play 43 minutes a game with lebron being able to handle much more of the ball handling and offense. The rockets would have their two "closers" finally considering lebron and harden led the nba in clutch scoring.

    Terrence Jones would feast on second unites.

    lionel hollins would be a shoo in for rocket's defensive assistant coach to join such a talented team and win would do wonders to help prop up his coaching career.

    You would have someone who many consider has the championship killer instinct and drive.

  • rockets best fan says 3 months ago

    @CT for Three

    I agree with JG. Faried is not enough of an upgrade to T-Jones to warrant our chasing him. JG I also agree that while we are focused on the third star outcome that may not be the Rockets line of thinking at all. they may be looking more at a Lowry/Gasol upgrade or some other combination like that. something that will fill more than just a single need. it remains to be seen, but one thing I think we all are pretty assured of is we will look drastically different next year when we take the court. I still prefer Melo, but I'm open to other possibilities...........anything that will ship out Lin :lol:

  • thejohnnygold says 3 months ago

    Fareid is not a very good fit in my opinion. If we had a center Like Brook Lopez, Spencer Hawes, or even Roy Hibbert I'd say yes, but we have an interior bruiser who scores at the rim already: Dwight Howard. Outside of the paint, Fareid shoots 35% and is 0-3 from behind the arc. I just don't think he will be very useful for us. Nothing against him as a player--just a bad fit.

    Millsap would take a ridiculous offer from Morey to acquire. The East looks wide open with even Miami looking vulnerable (and aging quickly). I imagine Atlanta, with a healthy Horford, believes they can contend in the East next season--and they should. They won't trade Millsap except for an offer they can't refuse.

    I think Atlanta tries to upgrade SG (Lance Stephenson) and move Korver to SF....it gives them huge line up flexibility (now that they have Pero Antic as a useful center) and a solid starting 5 whether they go big or small--plus they have some solid depth right now (depending on how free agency goes for them).....or they go after Carmelo while convincing his wife, Lala, to join the cast of Real Housewives of Atlanta. :P

  • CT for Three says 3 months ago

    If the rockets are going after an undersized PF, then trade forpaul millsap, he's a killer from long range.

    Because Millsap would eat up more cap space. I like Faried's contract and his rebounding particularly. He's listed at 6'8", so yeah he might have some trouble with the LaMarcus Aldridges of the world, but unless you have spare 7footers with good feet, (see Spurs) everyone has trouble with those guys. Which is why I say take a slight upgrade in Faried, if the sexier trades dont work out, of course. gotta keep hope alive.

  • Buckko says 3 months ago

    If the rockets are going after an undersized PF, then trade forpaul millsap, he's a killer from long range.

  • CT for Three says 3 months ago

    While all of you are chasing the sexy Playmate acquisition like Melo/Rondo/Love, I am looking at a slightly less attractive, but more feasible girl next door trade.

    What do you guys and gals think it would take to pry Faried away from Denver? I ran a couple of trades that worked sending Asik and a 2nd rd pick to Denver for Faried and Mozgov. We would get better at PF (better defensively than Jones, if not a little worse offense), and take a downgrade at backup C (which is probably unavoidable at this point.) It would not be a blockbuster trade, but it would make both teams better in my opinion and leave the Rockets with space for another big free agent.

  • slick shoes says 3 months ago

    I don't know about anyone else but I am secretly hoping the Spurs kill the Heat 4-0 or 4-1 and the Heat Big 3 are split up. I seriously, seriously doubt LeBron comes to Houston and Dwade is on the downside of his career not to mention the Rockets have a superior SG already on the roster in Harden.

    However, Chris Bosh would be a very enticing add to the Rockets roster going forward.

    What does everyone else think about the possibility however remote at this moment of Bosh joining the Rockets?

    even before he came out and declared his alliegance to miami earlier this post season, i dont see bosh leaving miami regardless of what happens in the finals. he would would be a nice consolation prize if melo doesnt work out.

  • slick shoes says 3 months ago

    I keep thinking that we're all on the wrong scent. Love, Melo, and Rondo get the majority of our attention; however, I'm not convinced this is what Morey is looking for. I'm seriously beginning to think he is going to try and swing another James Harden Type Deal and bring in a player that is on the cusp of breaking out, but isn't necessarily in their team's future plans.

    Who this player is I have no idea. Obviously, it would need to be at the PF/PG/SF position (and probably in that order).

    Eric Bledsoe's name has come up before....would Phoenix move him on a sign+trade for Lin, Asik, and a future pick? Surely, Morey has made this phone call.

    Avery Bradley is in the same situation as Bledsoe. If Boston keeps Rondo then surely they have to look at trading Bradley, but how much higher is his ceiling from where he is?

    Khris Middleton, Mike Scott, Draymond Green, Darren Collison, Wesley Johnson, Isaiah Thomas.....does Morey have some metrics showing these guys are about to break out? They all have considerable talents and whether it is due to being on terrible teams (Lakers, Bucks, Kings, etc.) or being buried behind established guys (CP3, Millsap, Iguodala, etc.) they might not be performing up to their full potential just yet.

    This is a bit too much hypothetical, but the advantage to signing an up-and-comer versus an established guy is huge. HUGE. Max contracts for players coming off their rookie deal are considerably cheaper than players moving into their second "max" deal....by roughly $6-$10M depending. That's a whole other player you can spend that money on--and a decent one at that.

    Further, the data shows that players' peaks seem to fall in this age range and begin to decline at the conclusion of the 4-5 year deal. Thus, economically speaking this is the best value a team can get both financially and performance-wise from a max contract.

    Yes, a sure thing like Melo or Love makes sense and is in no way a bad move. I'm just starting to think there is some misdirection here and the real target might be a player coming off his rookie deal and set to break out.

    I think the suns and kings are the sleepers in FA this season when it comes to the rockets. the past few years, we have been trading/picking up players from both organizations with a lot of regularity.

  • thejohnnygold says 3 months ago

    I keep thinking that we're all on the wrong scent. Love, Melo, and Rondo get the majority of our attention; however, I'm not convinced this is what Morey is looking for. I'm seriously beginning to think he is going to try and swing another James Harden Type Deal and bring in a player that is on the cusp of breaking out, but isn't necessarily in their team's future plans.

    Who this player is I have no idea. Obviously, it would need to be at the PF/PG/SF position (and probably in that order).

    Eric Bledsoe's name has come up before....would Phoenix move him on a sign+trade for Lin, Asik, and a future pick? Surely, Morey has made this phone call.

    Avery Bradley is in the same situation as Bledsoe. If Boston keeps Rondo then surely they have to look at trading Bradley, but how much higher is his ceiling from where he is?

    Khris Middleton, Mike Scott, Draymond Green, Darren Collison, Wesley Johnson, Isaiah Thomas.....does Morey have some metrics showing these guys are about to break out? They all have considerable talents and whether it is due to being on terrible teams (Lakers, Bucks, Kings, etc.) or being buried behind established guys (CP3, Millsap, Iguodala, etc.) they might not be performing up to their full potential just yet.

    This is a bit too much hypothetical, but the advantage to signing an up-and-comer versus an established guy is huge. HUGE. Max contracts for players coming off their rookie deal are considerably cheaper than players moving into their second "max" deal....by roughly $6-$10M depending. That's a whole other player you can spend that money on--and a decent one at that.

    Further, the data shows that players' peaks seem to fall in this age range and begin to decline at the conclusion of the 4-5 year deal. Thus, economically speaking this is the best value a team can get both financially and performance-wise from a max contract.

    Yes, a sure thing like Melo or Love makes sense and is in no way a bad move. I'm just starting to think there is some misdirection here and the real target might be a player coming off his rookie deal and set to break out.

  • rockets best fan says 3 months ago

    @rocketrick

    NY can do a sign and trade on Carmelo, however they can notreceive a player via sign and trade unless after the acquisition they are below the Apron according to the CBA.

    @Rahat

    I agree. this move with Parsons clearly indicates the Rockets are confident they will be able to acquire the player they are chasing this year. those who have been waiting for 2015 FA class can forget that idea because the Rockets plan to land their target this year.

  • rocketrick says 3 months ago The Knicks are not candidates for a sign and trade including Chandler Parsons because they are over the apron for 2014-15 unless they start making major roster moves yesterday. Perhaps my math is incorrect but I am pretty certain that the Knicks are well over the apron and can't participate in a sign and trade that includes Carmelo and Chandler Parsons plus.
  • Rahat Huq says 3 months ago

    Just to clarify on something: my suspicion on confidence regarding 'Melo doesn't stem from clearing Parsons' cap figure. His cap hold goes up to the $3million range from this move. My suspicion was about 2015...in that if the Rockets are going to commit long term money to Parsons this year, they will no longer have cap space next summer...meaning they might think they can get the guy they want this year.

  • rocketrick says 3 months ago

    Could you clarify what this means?


    I would hope you have not made the mistake of referring to rocketrick as a "youngun" since he is clearly your elder here. If this is the case that would show poorly on you as we don't go around on this forum referring to fellow members as youngins, there are other message boards for that kind of talk. If this is not what you meant then please pardon my assumptions.


    There should be a new section on Red94 named "Post of the Day".

    I nominate FSS post from yesterday as the initial post to start with.

    I can only wish I really was still age-wise a "young-un" so I admit that someone calling me a "young-un" is a positive! I have been called much, much worse on these boards for sure!

    Anyway, I still love shooting hoops and am currently undefeated the past 5 1/2 years in 2-2 and 3-3 basketball contests that I participate in from time to time.

    My challenge is if you disagree with my opinions, put a team together and challenge me to a game of basketball.

    I may be aging gracefully but I am clearly young at heart and of mind.

    Thanks for helping me start positively in a new day!!
  • rocketrick says 3 months ago I don't know about anyone else but I am secretly hoping the Spurs kill the Heat 4-0 or 4-1 and the Heat Big 3 are split up. I seriously, seriously doubt LeBron comes to Houston and Dwade is on the downside of his career not to mention the Rockets have a superior SG already on the roster in Harden.

    However, Chris Bosh would be a very enticing add to the Rockets roster going forward.

    What does everyone else think about the possibility however remote at this moment of Bosh joining the Rockets?
  • Buckko says 3 months ago Have to admit been taking breaks from this site because all the pointless bickering and off topic fighting. Here's a productive idea, dump asik and Lin to the 76ers with the 25th pick and 2016 1st. , un-guarantee Powell, casspi's contracts, Garcia declines his player option and the 34th pick doesn't count against the cap gives the rockets along not having to pay the 1st rounder because they dump him with the 76ers, gives them about 19.3 million in cap space or extremely close to max. I would also like to make the point should the heat lose the finals and the big 3 decide to use their early termination option, it gets a lot more interesting adding lebron and bosh to the market.
  • datruth says 3 months ago

    What ! That is exactly what i'am talking about. In one sentence you say let's clean it up and then the next you give it out. yes the datruth is if any person feels like he can treat one person one way and treat someone else a different way. That is wrong. We can agree to disagree but i think Red 94, and ESPN sends the wrong message when the moderators are saying certain people can be treated differently. That's not accepted no where else in our lives so why should it represent the ESPN, RED 94 and the Houston Rockets.

  • feelingsupersonic says 3 months ago

    Open license? You must have no idea of really goes on, you have blinders on. I don't really understand what your saying but that's okay, I know what I am saying. Anyone that would seriously call someone a "youngun" and then be expected to be taken seriously here is in the wrong place, clean it up or get out. And yes the long time members here have a chemistry so the last thing I want are rookies coming in and acting foolishly, disrupting the order we have. datruth, surely these goals and my responsibilities aren't that hard for you to grasp are they?

  • datruth says 3 months ago

    Feelingsupersonic
    i still confused why someone should be treated differently because he showed up first. Why someone has an open license to treat people any type of way because they was at an ESPN site first that is associated with NBA team. We are all fans and it should not matter if someone got to on the bus late. The main thing is they are on the bus. I agree we should treat each other with respect, but to say one person can say anything to another person because they was on the bus first is wrong. Go rockets.

  • feelingsupersonic says 3 months ago

    I was just frustrated with youngun about the need for an "impact" small forward should we actually make the love trade.

    Could you clarify what this means?

    I would hope you have not made the mistake of referring to rocketrick as a "youngun" since he is clearly your elder here. If this is the case that would show poorly on you as we don't go around on this forum referring to fellow members as youngins, there are other message boards for that kind of talk. If this is not what you meant then please pardon my assumptions.

  • thejohnnygold says 3 months ago

    I agree Ariza is a solid 3&D player, but I think he is high profile enough that some team is going to over pay him this off season.

    That was the beauty of Posey, he was always on the mid-level exception, or some other team-friendly contract. He was a blue collar guy--Tucker is the same. I agree that Phoenix will want to keep him, but it's not guaranteed that they will. They need to keep money open for Dragic, Bledsoe, and Okafor (or someone like him).

    They have tons of cap room and will be looking to spend some of it on a high level player. Both Gortat and Ariza could wind up in Phoenix--they could use a veteran big and Ariza is an upgrade at the 3 for them over Morris/Tucker.

    Dragic, Bledsoe, Ariza, Markieff Morris, and Gortat is actually a pretty solid line up. Since the Morris twins seem to play better together Tucker might be the odd man out....

    Here's to hoping :)

  • rockets best fan says 3 months ago

    PJ Tucker is a good player, but he's not a Posey type player yet. JG I do see the potential, but I don't think the Rockets will have room to look at someone like him after acquiring a star. Phoenix has the inside track and I doubt they would let him slip away to a contending team within their conference considering how much cap space they themselves have.

  • Incubus2803 says 3 months ago I love posey. He and Eddie house were huge for the celts championship. I loved that team.
    I was just frustrated with youngun about the need for an "impact" small forward should we actually make the love trade.
    I don't know how much money ariza is going to make, but he would stand to b the next posey.
    But apparently his attitude isn't ideal, so perhaps not.
    I don't know a whole lot about tucker other than he punked griffin.
  • thejohnnygold says 3 months ago

    I'd just like to point out that, at the time, James Posey was the quintessential "3&D" wing player--wherever he went teams immediately improved. From about '03-'04 through '07-'08 he was an IMPACT role player. (sorry, I really liked his game and am saddened when people don't recognize his level of awesome).

    This is why we should try and steal PJ Tucker from Phoenix--he is set to hit a James-Posey-Like run of high caliber defense, hustle, and 3 pt. shooting.

  • rockets best fan says 3 months ago

    no doubt Mitchell is an expert, but there are many here.........at least that's what they believe

  • rocketrick says 3 months ago

    For the record, I am an expert.


    About time we had an expert on this board, what took so long?
  • rocketrick says 3 months ago

    No I was mocking you for saying "absolutely doubt it"
    Its a nonsensical term. You can't doubt something you believe absolutely.
    That's an oxymoron.

    See? Teaching you basketball and grammar. Multi talented.


    Huh? Absolutely could mean yes or no, etc. Frustating moment here.

    As in Absolutely YES or Absolutely NO.
  • feelingsupersonic says 3 months ago

    For the record, I am an expert.




    Yessss! You the man.
  • rocketrick says 3 months ago

    And I would like to see anyone tell KG that he was on the "clearly inferior team" when the celtics lost to the lakers.
    I don't see that going well.


    The consummate professional, KG. The Celtics were lucky, in my opinion, to win one title with that lineup. Not very athletic but able to make the right plays when it counted.
  • Incubus2803 says 3 months ago No I was mocking you for saying "absolutely doubt it"
    Its a nonsensical term. You can't doubt something you believe absolutely.
    That's an oxymoron.

    See? Teaching you basketball and grammar. Multi talented.
  • rocketrick says 3 months ago

    If Westbrook goes to the 2 do we have the best SG still? I'm not sure.


    I am 100% with you on that, Westbrook is amazing.

    Must be tough to be Westbrook and have the MVP on your team to keep happy too.
  • Mitchell Felker says 3 months ago And I would like to see anyone tell KG that he was on the "clearly inferior team" when the celtics lost to the lakers.
    I don't see that going well.
  • rocketrick says 3 months ago

    I absolutely doubt it.
    Lol. Do you listen to yourself?


    What is it that you ABSOLUTELY doubt?

    Just wondering.

    No I don't listen to myself. I prefer to listen to more important people in my life because I am still trying to figure things out after all these years. If I listened to myself that would probably mean I am demented and should be admitted to the nearest mental institution.
  • timetodienow1234567 says 3 months ago If Westbrook goes to the 2 do we have the best SG still? I'm not sure.
  • Mitchell Felker says 3 months ago For the record, I am an expert.
  • rockets best fan says 3 months ago

    corralling these rookies and these newbies this year is a full time job :lol:never have I seen so many hostile newcomers trying to tell us how it's done. most have settled in, but there are still a few who must learn the fine art of disagreeing without being disagreeable. FSS/JG I don't envy your position, but appreciate you dedication.

  • Incubus2803 says 3 months ago No need for sf when you have the best sg, pf and center in huge league, either.
  • Incubus2803 says 3 months ago I absolutely doubt it.
    Lol. Do you listen to yourself?
  • rocketrick says 3 months ago Damn, I forgot to mention Kobe had Shaq for the first 3 rings and played clearly inferior teams when he won the last 2 rings.

    Not to take anything away from him. Kobe is the consummate NBA competitor. Probably the best of the current era.

    No need for a SF when you have Kobe and Shaq on your team during their prime.
  • feelingsupersonic says 3 months ago You wrote "caca" and that was so funny I don't know why, good one!




    (This topic is rocking, most action I've seen in weeks!)
  • rocketrick says 3 months ago

    I'm sorry for losing my temper back there.
    I realize now that you're a rockets fan and not a basketball fan.
    You clearly have no idea the impact kevin love would have on this team.
    And you have a way too high opinion of parsons.
    Oh and never mind that Kobe won 5 titles without a playmaker at sf
    And that time Duncan won 4 with Bruce fricking Bowen.
    Oh and dwade won his first with James posey. Lol
    That's what happens in the real world. Stars win titles.
    Not above average small forwards.


    I have never once, NEVER, EVER on this board, much less any other board, stated DO NOT TRADE PARSONS UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE.

    NEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I clearly realize the impact Kevin Love would have on this team and I have stated that in NUMEROUS Posts on this forum.

    I excuse you because like pretty much everybody else, no one bothers to really read all the posts.

    A shame because there are several people on this board that really know their caca, so to speak. I definitely do not agree with all of their analysis, but that is the beauty of this forum which apparently many just haven't quite yet figured out.

    Yeah, Duncan won 4 titles without a solid SF primarily because he had Popovich, Manu and Tony Parker on his side which clearly is much more important than what a Chandler Parsons could be expected, more importantly, needed, to contribute in that unique situation.

    By the way, Bowen played both the SG and SF position with the Spurs depending on game matchups.

    Neither the Mavericks nor the Heat had a SF of importance when they matched up in the 2006 Finals, and yes, clearly DWade was the difference although any and all Mavericks fans will say the NBA and their referees clearly conspired against them that season.

    I definitely like KLove and I would absolutely be thrilled if he becomes a Rocket. Will the Rockets be guaranteed a couple of rings by simply signing KLove? I absolutely doubt it.
  • rockets best fan says 3 months ago

    @FSS

    :lol: :lol:

  • Incubus2803 says 3 months ago Sarcasm dude. Most people that take the time to post in forums tend to watch a lot of basketball. Not just one team.
  • feelingsupersonic says 3 months ago Yes, no big surprise most of us here are Rockets fans first, that's kind of funny you just realized this. There is a reason this is named Red94.
  • Incubus2803 says 3 months ago I'm sorry for losing my temper back there.
    I realize now that you're a rockets fan and not a basketball fan.
    You clearly have no idea the impact kevin love would have on this team.
    And you have a way too high opinion of parsons.
    Oh and never mind that Kobe won 5 titles without a playmaker at sf
    And that time Duncan won 4 with Bruce fricking Bowen.
    Oh and dwade won his first with James posey. Lol
    That's what happens in the real world. Stars win titles.
    Not above average small forwards.
  • feelingsupersonic says 3 months ago Take it easy guys, both of you. Felker is taking his own time to post talking points and what is on his mind and I haven't seen call himself an expert but I do know Rahat trusts him and I personally appreciate all the time he puts into Red94. Also, definitely no need to call people ignorant, keep it civil gentlemen and let's just add to the conversation.
  • thejohnnygold says 3 months ago

    Is everyone a little upset that Parsons is going into RFA? It's a little edgy in here :lol:

    First, I think this is all moot--Parsons is staying as long as he is willing to take less than max money--and I think he is.

    Second, there are plenty of guys who can step in and play the 3 for us--they may not have Parsons' skill set, but that may not be needed as much depending on how things shake out.

    If we get a Melo/Love/Rondo type guy then perhaps Jordan Hamilton is a better fit? Or we can try and steal Khris MIddleton from Milwaukee, there is Pierce, Deng, Marion, Wesley Johnson, Michael Beasley, Al-Farouq Aminu, Evan Turner, PJ Tucker, Gordon Hayward, Marvin Williams, and Trevor Ariza that are all potential pick-ups for us. Each could contribute differently and if we snag a star then a defensive guy like Aminu, Tucker, Ariza, Marion, Deng, or even Johnson could be ideal.

    Nobody wants to lose Parsons, but if it gets us a third star it has to be done--there are replacements available.

  • rockets best fan says 3 months ago

    @Incubus2803

    ignorance? save your ignorance comments for another place besides this forum. a difference of opinion does not declare ignorance on anyone's part. if you are unable to make your point without the ignorance word being part of it that would be ignorant.

    @rocketrick

    Parsons isn't going anywhere. the Rockets will decline his option because they intend to make their big splash this summer. since resigning Parsons will basically kill our cap space our new acquisition needs to happen before Parsons new contract. the Rockets must be confident they will be able to lure a big time FA or they wouldn't be making this move.

  • rocketrick says 3 months ago

    Lol. Parsons is a game changer??
    You got it all figured out man.
    You should start a blog.
    Or keep posting ignorance 1600 times on someone else's.
    Since you're the expert.


    I never once claimed to be the expert.

    You are simply following the R's tact of just attack even though you just have no answer whatsoever. You just don't and you know it although you won't admit it.

    Anyway, in the event I might have missed something in one of your earlier posts (unlikely but just like the R's make something up)..........

    Who will become the Rockets SF going forward guarding the opposing team's second or first most athletic player while expected to be an important playmaker on offense?

    Just wondering as I live in the REAL WORLD
  • Incubus2803 says 3 months ago Lol. Parsons is a game changer??
    You got it all figured out man.
    You should start a blog.
    Or keep posting ignorance 1600 times on someone else's.
    Since you're the expert.
  • rocketrick says 3 months ago

    Literally anyone. A body.
    Andrei kirilinko. Xavier Henry.
    It literally wouldn't matter.
    Pay Riley isn't stressing about who his point guard is.
    Get real.


    OK, so you are ALL IN without a game changing PG or SF, which just happens to be the 2 most important ATHLETIC positions in the NBA.

    So I assume you want McHale and Morey fired afterwards, probably mid-season, when this experiment flops and fails.
  • Incubus2803 says 3 months ago Literally anyone. A body.
    Andrei kirilinko. Xavier Henry.
    It literally wouldn't matter.
    Pay Riley isn't stressing about who his point guard is.
    Get real.
  • rocketrick says 3 months ago

    That's some real expert analysis, trick. At first you make the same point he made, then follow it up with sheer ignorance.
    Where would they get a small forward? Who cares?! They would have just gotten kevin love.
    That's what you do, expert. Trade for the 25 yo superstar then figure the rest out later.
    Geez.


    I'm so pleased that somebody smarter than me has all this figured out.

    I am still just a bit confused, must be my stupidity, but who is the SF when Parsons is traded?
  • Incubus2803 says 3 months ago That's some real expert analysis, trick. At first you make the same point he made, then follow it up with sheer ignorance.
    Where would they get a small forward? Who cares?! They would have just gotten kevin love.
    That's what you do, expert. Trade for the 25 yo superstar then figure the rest out later.
    Geez.
  • rocketrick says 3 months ago As usual, I am quite disappointed with the "expert" analysis here.

    Parsons is simply not going to be available in most cases for a sign and trade Summer 2014. Period.

    Maybe a trade after the Dec 15 first NBA deadline or the actual Trade Deadline in February?

    Unlikely in my opinion.

    Why?

    Simply because the Rockets must have a SF in their lineup going forward and who is ready to fill Chandler's spot?

    That's right................nobody.

    So what to do??