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@  thejohnnygold : (02 September 2014 - 09:48 PM) @bladad--no, you are not the only one to recognize how different Team USA is from our own team. You are just the only one who saw fit to view it negatively.
@  rocketrick : (02 September 2014 - 05:11 PM) Just Wake Me Up in Mid-September when USA-Spain play for the 1-game Title....
@  bladad : (02 September 2014 - 03:41 PM) Am I the only one that doesn't think Harden's stats during Team USA's run has anything to do with how he will play during the season? He is playing with the best players in the world. Most if not all the players can stretch the floor as well. They are also playing piss poor competition at the moment....
@  Willk : (02 September 2014 - 02:20 AM) Jeff Adrien is a bad man http://twitpic.com/dlrurt
@  jorgeaam : (01 September 2014 - 04:07 AM) Probably a Parsons and a Beverley on those second rounders :P
@  feelingsuper... : (31 August 2014 - 09:31 PM) I don't mind Terry, it's a low cost gamble. I do like the 2 second rounders Morey acquired.
@  feelingsuper... : (31 August 2014 - 09:30 PM) Harden looked good once he got past the foul trouble and Coach K put the ball in his hands unlike the first half.
@  Willk : (31 August 2014 - 09:15 PM) harden 7 assists 0 TOs
@  Willk : (31 August 2014 - 09:09 PM) FSS - I do not know how to feel about that
@  feelingsuper... : (31 August 2014 - 09:01 PM) Woj reporting Kings working on deal to send Jason Terry to Rockets.
@  Buckko : (30 August 2014 - 08:17 PM) and finally an article on Canaan http://www.ridiculou...-guard#comments
@  feelingsuper... : (30 August 2014 - 03:26 PM) Just a reminder to everyone interested that Team USA plays Finland today at 2:30 central time on ESPN.
@  RollingWave : (28 August 2014 - 07:34 AM) But yeah, I can understand luxury tax / revenue sharing, but the cap's sole purpose is to help the Owner's pockets and also give jobs to all those captologist
@  RollingWave : (28 August 2014 - 07:33 AM) The irony obviously, sports being the one thing where the US is much more socialist than their European counter part ;)
@  thenit : (27 August 2014 - 08:43 PM) Unless Cle wins 2 rings in 4 years I rather have what Mia has now 2 rings and a likely playoff team
@  thenit : (27 August 2014 - 08:43 PM) That's why I don't like American sports, there shouldn't be any salary cap. It should be like Europe. Hating Socialism except for sports where the whole idea of is to compete to be the best. should be capitalistic and a free for all
@  rocketrick : (27 August 2014 - 11:53 AM) Boring...so which situation is better going forward? Miami Heat with practically no salary cap room after winning 2 titles in 3 years or Cleveland with all kinds of cap room? No wonder LeBron and KLove chose Cleveland. Just saying. NBA Salary Cap is quite onerous in the end.
@  thenit : (27 August 2014 - 02:53 AM) I think it's about right where we should be. We are a contender under the radar
@  rocketrick : (27 August 2014 - 12:42 AM) Las Vegas places 16-1 odds for the Rockets chances this season as the eventual NBA Champion. Only the Cavaliers, Bulls, Spurs, Thunder and Clippers rate better odds than the Rockets. Perhaps too much negativity this off-season in H-town???
@  rocketrick : (26 August 2014 - 11:40 PM) Troy Daniels is more of a SG, too with limited, at best, PG skills. I'm with Rolling Wave, I'd rather have Sessions than Ish Smith backing up Beverley

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#1 Sir Thursday

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 02:29 AM

Just checked the scores before going to bed and was rubbing my eyes...it said OKC 64, Charlotte 24! That has got to be the biggest beatdown I've ever seen in a half of NBA basketball. I thought the Bobcats were much improved when I watched them for a little bit earlier in the season, but that scoreline is not pretty. Have they got some injuries or something?

(By the way, there doesn't really seem to be a good place for generic rest-of-the-NBA chat, so I just started a new thread here. Dunno if it's better to just create new ones whenever something momentous happens or have everything in one place).


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#2 Rahat Huq

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 02:59 AM

when i saw this thread title, i thought we had just traded for kevin love or something.
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Posted 27 November 2012 - 03:02 AM

when i saw this thread title, i thought we had just traded for kevin love or something.


Heh, sorry to get your hopes up. I doubt I'd be the first to post in a situation like that, because I'm not on Twitter (which seems to be where news breaks these days). But if I did, rest assured there would be a couple more capital letters ;).

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#4 Rahat Huq

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 03:49 AM

but yes, this would be the place for NBA talk. would like to get some more of that in.
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Posted 27 November 2012 - 03:59 AM

Yea I saw that too. With the OKC bench playing the rest of the way, Charlotte outscored their first half of 24 with 26 4th quarter points lol. As Barkley would say, "Michael Jordan rollin over in his grave".
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Posted 27 November 2012 - 03:16 PM

i know theres a fantasy bball thread, but since you speak of this game, yeah kemba was a complete negative for me in this one. i would have been better off with nobody playing the point.
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Posted 27 November 2012 - 03:53 PM

Pretty funny about Barkley saying that Jordan would be rolling over in his grave. I wish I had TNT right now. That score is crazy and I can only imagine how painful it would be to watch film as a Charlotte player or to have been watching the game as a Bobcats fan. It was 79 to 25 in the third, wow!
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Posted 27 November 2012 - 06:29 PM

I added a note in the title. I guess we'll just toss all NBA talk into here for now until there's enough for separate threads.

So who's the biggest surprise and biggest disappointment so far this year?
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Posted 28 November 2012 - 06:58 AM

i would say the 2 biggest suprises are charlotte and milwauke.i figured ellis and jennings would be a disaster together. charlotte's been fun to watch but think they will lose a lot more games.

its good to see the warriors doing well, fun team to watch and ive always loved david lee.

biggest dissapointment is definitely the lakers and minnesota(they cant ever catch a break)
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Posted 28 November 2012 - 07:00 AM

also. kevin love 23 and 24 tonight. jesus
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Posted 28 November 2012 - 01:19 PM

I agree with sircharles on both surprises. Really, who would have thought Charlotte would win these many games so far? And also Milwaukee....Ellis-Jennings seemed like Ellis-Curry 2.0, but he is playing for a defensive minded team right now, so his lack of defense is covered by the rest of the team.

The biggest disappointment? The Lakers of course, but I would have to add Indiana, maybe Chicago and I apparently, Toronto is living what we all thought we would be living right now: lots of close losses....Minnesota is cursed, and so is Golden State, Portland appears to be getting off it slowly
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#12 Rahat Huq

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 01:36 PM

I also thought Ellis-Jennings was going to be a complete disaster.
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Posted 30 November 2012 - 12:57 AM

Biggest surprise is definitely the bobcats. Biggest upset is Boston. I heard a lot of people saying that the Celts would have a great year, and I didn't buy it(I don't believe theyre any better than last year, that's how much value I put in Ray Allen). 8-7 isn't awful, but for a team thought to be a 2-3 seed in the east, it's certainly an upset. An upset or not, I'm thrilled-I hate Boston.
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Posted 30 November 2012 - 11:16 AM

Biggest surprise is definitely the bobcats. Biggest upset is Boston. I heard a lot of people saying that the Celts would have a great year, and I didn't buy it(I don't believe theyre any better than last year, that's how much value I put in Ray Allen). 8-7 isn't awful, but for a team thought to be a 2-3 seed in the east, it's certainly an upset. An upset or not, I'm thrilled-I hate Boston.


I feel like LA is probably a slightly bigger upset that Boston at this point. Boston's big 3 of the last few seasons has turned into an 'aging 2' and there's only one up-and-comer on the team that can fill their shoes (Rondo - not sold on Jeff Green yet). They've brought in a few new guys who in the long term are probably going to work together pretty well, but given the fundamentally different style your team needs to play to accomodate a Jason Terry versus a Ray Allen I think it's to be expected that there will be some growing pains. I still expect that they will make the playoffs, but perhaps not as a high seed. And fundamentally, I don't think it's a huge issue for them if they're #2 or #6 - one thing they do have is a lot of time to sort things out and settle on a system that works, and once that happens they'll be a very difficult opponent for whoever they face.

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 03:15 PM

Disappointment: LAKERS...not that I am actually disappointed they are losing. I am disappointed that I can no longer root for Steve Nash in good conscience.

Surprises: Golden State...and maybe Utah. Utah's bigs can play, but mo williams, randy foye and gordon heyward as the main guards???
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Posted 30 November 2012 - 03:40 PM

I'm in agreement with most comments, but must add Dallas to the disappointment list... The team is unrecognizable anymore, and Dirk returning won't fix it. It is hard to believe they have fallen so far.
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Posted 30 November 2012 - 06:25 PM

I think Boston probably should have blown it up this year and not have brought back Garnett/Bass added Jason terry etc... They will make the playoffs but only as a mid-low seed and might even be a first round out.
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Posted 30 November 2012 - 10:22 PM

i figured courtney lee would have a much bigger role this year in boston. they should be much better when avery bradley returns
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Posted 01 December 2012 - 12:26 AM

I feel like LA is probably a slightly bigger upset that Boston at this point. Boston's big 3 of the last few seasons has turned into an 'aging 2' and there's only one up-and-comer on the team that can fill their shoes (Rondo - not sold on Jeff Green yet). They've brought in a few new guys who in the long term are probably going to work together pretty well, but given the fundamentally different style your team needs to play to accomodate a Jason Terry versus a Ray Allen I think it's to be expected that there will be some growing pains. I still expect that they will make the playoffs, but perhaps not as a high seed. And fundamentally, I don't think it's a huge issue for them if they're #2 or #6 - one thing they do have is a lot of time to sort things out and settle on a system that works, and once that happens they'll be a very difficult opponent for whoever they face.

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I don't see the Lakers as the "biggest" disappointment so far because of the magnitude of the changes they incurred over the off-season. Between the two teams(Boston and LAL) you have the loss of Ray Allen, gains of Jason Terry and Courtney Lee(which I don't see as huge moves of any sort), and you have the addition of Dwight Howard and Steve Nash with losses of Andrew Bynum and Ramon Sessions(huge changes). Throw in that the Lakers ditched Mike Brown, and INTENTIONALLY hired Mike D'Antoni instead of PHIL "THIRTEEN RINGS" JACKSON, what could really be expected of them at this stage? If someone was thinking the Lakers we're going to be 13-2 after fifteen games(in reality theyre 7-8), they were delirious.
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