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@  thejohnnygold : (06 March 2015 - 07:04 PM) Yes...paging tech support!
@  majik19 : (06 March 2015 - 06:32 PM) Is anyone else getting a "error establishing database connection" when trying to load the main Red94 site?
@  cointurtlemoose : (06 March 2015 - 04:49 PM) I think it definitely hurts them. Their bench is back to thin, and Matthews, behind Lillard and Aldridge, is the most crucial guy to that team. They're still dangerous, and Afflalo will be a net positive, but they definitely became less threatening
@  Mario Peña : (06 March 2015 - 02:52 PM) I agree johnnygold, maybe. You never know maybe the other Blazers rally and with Affalo able to slip in maybe there's no drop off. If the Rockets face Portland I would have liked to see Harden carve up Matthews but I guess we will have to wait till another time.
@  thejohnnygold : (06 March 2015 - 02:41 PM) Perhaps....
@  08huangj : (06 March 2015 - 01:31 PM) Matthews out for year. Fortunate for the Rockets
@  TTrainW : (06 March 2015 - 12:16 PM) Yeah I think there's a perception that Westbrook earns those free thows by being athletic and making those wow plays. Harden plays more smartly, and baits the opposing players into fouling him; to an opposing fan it seems like baiting the official.
@  txtdo1411 : (05 March 2015 - 06:34 PM) Anybody else think it's funny that Harden gets all this flak for "baiting" officials, yet Westbrook only averages 0.3 less FTA per game and you never hear one word about it? Is it because Westbrook is typically making "wow" plays when he doesn't get fouled? Even if he goes to the line 20 times (like last night), he still has a play or two that just make your jaw drop.
@  txtdo1411 : (05 March 2015 - 06:28 PM) I feel like he's definitely gaining the most publicity at the moment. It just depends on what voters care about. Their record won't be great, and his fg percentages are pretty atrocious, so it depends on how much weight they put into that.
@  majik19 : (05 March 2015 - 03:36 PM) Is anyone else thinking that Westbrook is taking over the MVP conversation...? I know Harden has played ~15 more games... but by the end of the season, that won't be too significant
@  thejohnnygold : (05 March 2015 - 06:13 AM) NBA.com publishes them....they take a little time
@  TTrainW : (05 March 2015 - 03:17 AM) @JG where do you get the ref reports after games?
@  thejohnnygold : (04 March 2015 - 02:25 PM) @Yaoman--I guess it's whatever you want to be worried about. One loss is a 1/2 game move in the standings--not a full point. Head to head is a full point. Further, divisional records come into play for tiebreakers and such. I was never endorsing skipping ATL--why would we do that? Besides, is there really much benefit to moving to the 2 seed? The 4 seed? I forget who it was, but I agree that keeping the 3rd is ideal as it prolongs any chance of seeing GSW the longest.
@  King's G... : (04 March 2015 - 10:34 AM) @cooper we couldnt closed even when Harden played in the first game
@  King's G... : (04 March 2015 - 09:56 AM) nice game were equally good with or without Harden and dwight
@  TTrainW : (04 March 2015 - 03:29 AM) passing was just really sloppy. there were some times where we tried to get it to the post to run a play but the passing just wasn't crisp or on point.
@  Mario Peña : (04 March 2015 - 03:14 AM) Good first 40 minutes and hopefully these rotation players have learned something about crunch time execution and effort.
@  Cooper : (04 March 2015 - 02:51 AM) can't close without harden.
@  TTrainW : (04 March 2015 - 02:37 AM) intensity
@  jorgeaam : (04 March 2015 - 02:34 AM) BENCH JOSH SMITH NOW!!!

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#1 Sir Thursday

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 02:29 AM

Just checked the scores before going to bed and was rubbing my eyes...it said OKC 64, Charlotte 24! That has got to be the biggest beatdown I've ever seen in a half of NBA basketball. I thought the Bobcats were much improved when I watched them for a little bit earlier in the season, but that scoreline is not pretty. Have they got some injuries or something?

(By the way, there doesn't really seem to be a good place for generic rest-of-the-NBA chat, so I just started a new thread here. Dunno if it's better to just create new ones whenever something momentous happens or have everything in one place).


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#2 Rahat Huq

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 02:59 AM

when i saw this thread title, i thought we had just traded for kevin love or something.
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Posted 27 November 2012 - 03:02 AM

when i saw this thread title, i thought we had just traded for kevin love or something.


Heh, sorry to get your hopes up. I doubt I'd be the first to post in a situation like that, because I'm not on Twitter (which seems to be where news breaks these days). But if I did, rest assured there would be a couple more capital letters ;).

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#4 Rahat Huq

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 03:49 AM

but yes, this would be the place for NBA talk. would like to get some more of that in.
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Posted 27 November 2012 - 03:59 AM

Yea I saw that too. With the OKC bench playing the rest of the way, Charlotte outscored their first half of 24 with 26 4th quarter points lol. As Barkley would say, "Michael Jordan rollin over in his grave".
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Posted 27 November 2012 - 03:16 PM

i know theres a fantasy bball thread, but since you speak of this game, yeah kemba was a complete negative for me in this one. i would have been better off with nobody playing the point.
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Posted 27 November 2012 - 03:53 PM

Pretty funny about Barkley saying that Jordan would be rolling over in his grave. I wish I had TNT right now. That score is crazy and I can only imagine how painful it would be to watch film as a Charlotte player or to have been watching the game as a Bobcats fan. It was 79 to 25 in the third, wow!
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Posted 27 November 2012 - 06:29 PM

I added a note in the title. I guess we'll just toss all NBA talk into here for now until there's enough for separate threads.

So who's the biggest surprise and biggest disappointment so far this year?
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Posted 28 November 2012 - 06:58 AM

i would say the 2 biggest suprises are charlotte and milwauke.i figured ellis and jennings would be a disaster together. charlotte's been fun to watch but think they will lose a lot more games.

its good to see the warriors doing well, fun team to watch and ive always loved david lee.

biggest dissapointment is definitely the lakers and minnesota(they cant ever catch a break)
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Posted 28 November 2012 - 07:00 AM

also. kevin love 23 and 24 tonight. jesus
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Posted 28 November 2012 - 01:19 PM

I agree with sircharles on both surprises. Really, who would have thought Charlotte would win these many games so far? And also Milwaukee....Ellis-Jennings seemed like Ellis-Curry 2.0, but he is playing for a defensive minded team right now, so his lack of defense is covered by the rest of the team.

The biggest disappointment? The Lakers of course, but I would have to add Indiana, maybe Chicago and I apparently, Toronto is living what we all thought we would be living right now: lots of close losses....Minnesota is cursed, and so is Golden State, Portland appears to be getting off it slowly
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Posted 28 November 2012 - 01:36 PM

I also thought Ellis-Jennings was going to be a complete disaster.
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Posted 30 November 2012 - 12:57 AM

Biggest surprise is definitely the bobcats. Biggest upset is Boston. I heard a lot of people saying that the Celts would have a great year, and I didn't buy it(I don't believe theyre any better than last year, that's how much value I put in Ray Allen). 8-7 isn't awful, but for a team thought to be a 2-3 seed in the east, it's certainly an upset. An upset or not, I'm thrilled-I hate Boston.
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Posted 30 November 2012 - 11:16 AM

Biggest surprise is definitely the bobcats. Biggest upset is Boston. I heard a lot of people saying that the Celts would have a great year, and I didn't buy it(I don't believe theyre any better than last year, that's how much value I put in Ray Allen). 8-7 isn't awful, but for a team thought to be a 2-3 seed in the east, it's certainly an upset. An upset or not, I'm thrilled-I hate Boston.


I feel like LA is probably a slightly bigger upset that Boston at this point. Boston's big 3 of the last few seasons has turned into an 'aging 2' and there's only one up-and-comer on the team that can fill their shoes (Rondo - not sold on Jeff Green yet). They've brought in a few new guys who in the long term are probably going to work together pretty well, but given the fundamentally different style your team needs to play to accomodate a Jason Terry versus a Ray Allen I think it's to be expected that there will be some growing pains. I still expect that they will make the playoffs, but perhaps not as a high seed. And fundamentally, I don't think it's a huge issue for them if they're #2 or #6 - one thing they do have is a lot of time to sort things out and settle on a system that works, and once that happens they'll be a very difficult opponent for whoever they face.

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 03:15 PM

Disappointment: LAKERS...not that I am actually disappointed they are losing. I am disappointed that I can no longer root for Steve Nash in good conscience.

Surprises: Golden State...and maybe Utah. Utah's bigs can play, but mo williams, randy foye and gordon heyward as the main guards???
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Posted 30 November 2012 - 03:40 PM

I'm in agreement with most comments, but must add Dallas to the disappointment list... The team is unrecognizable anymore, and Dirk returning won't fix it. It is hard to believe they have fallen so far.
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Posted 30 November 2012 - 06:25 PM

I think Boston probably should have blown it up this year and not have brought back Garnett/Bass added Jason terry etc... They will make the playoffs but only as a mid-low seed and might even be a first round out.
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Posted 30 November 2012 - 10:22 PM

i figured courtney lee would have a much bigger role this year in boston. they should be much better when avery bradley returns
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Posted 01 December 2012 - 12:26 AM

I feel like LA is probably a slightly bigger upset that Boston at this point. Boston's big 3 of the last few seasons has turned into an 'aging 2' and there's only one up-and-comer on the team that can fill their shoes (Rondo - not sold on Jeff Green yet). They've brought in a few new guys who in the long term are probably going to work together pretty well, but given the fundamentally different style your team needs to play to accomodate a Jason Terry versus a Ray Allen I think it's to be expected that there will be some growing pains. I still expect that they will make the playoffs, but perhaps not as a high seed. And fundamentally, I don't think it's a huge issue for them if they're #2 or #6 - one thing they do have is a lot of time to sort things out and settle on a system that works, and once that happens they'll be a very difficult opponent for whoever they face.

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I don't see the Lakers as the "biggest" disappointment so far because of the magnitude of the changes they incurred over the off-season. Between the two teams(Boston and LAL) you have the loss of Ray Allen, gains of Jason Terry and Courtney Lee(which I don't see as huge moves of any sort), and you have the addition of Dwight Howard and Steve Nash with losses of Andrew Bynum and Ramon Sessions(huge changes). Throw in that the Lakers ditched Mike Brown, and INTENTIONALLY hired Mike D'Antoni instead of PHIL "THIRTEEN RINGS" JACKSON, what could really be expected of them at this stage? If someone was thinking the Lakers we're going to be 13-2 after fifteen games(in reality theyre 7-8), they were delirious.
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