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@  thejohnnygold : (27 February 2017 - 05:43 AM) I don't think this is all or nothing. We've still got some defensive issues to deal with, but this team can give anyone a run for their money.
@  slick shoes : (26 February 2017 - 11:38 PM) i just hope to legitimately compete for the title. winning is only a bonus.
@  rocketrick : (26 February 2017 - 06:19 PM) All the moaning and groaning will suddenly appear should the Rockets fail to win the Title this season. It is What It Is........
@  thejohnnygold : (26 February 2017 - 03:25 PM) Anybody else watching the new and improved Rockets? Looking good so far...
@  slick shoes : (23 February 2017 - 09:17 PM) PG was reported to be dealt today by the deadline, but wouldn't commit to sign long term with ANY team other than the... Lakers?
@  slick shoes : (23 February 2017 - 09:10 PM) Tyler Ennis to the Lakers. Looks to be a good working relationship between Magic and Morey.
@  slick shoes : (23 February 2017 - 09:03 PM) I'll pass on Bogut all day long. I agree with, JG. Let's bring up Onuaku before we start bringing in new guys/salaries.
@  rocketrick : (23 February 2017 - 08:05 PM) Opens up Cap Space for someone like Bogut or Sanders or another big that may be bought out later this week by their team..........
@  slick shoes : (23 February 2017 - 08:02 PM) I hope that KJ can get some playing time with the Nets.
@  thejohnnygold : (10 February 2017 - 02:54 PM) I'll take him!
@  slick shoes : (10 February 2017 - 12:48 PM) Little too late in the season for him to save me, I think.
@  thejohnnygold : (09 February 2017 - 11:22 PM) Yeah...but I think you might enjoy what's about to happen with Giannis ;)
@  slick shoes : (09 February 2017 - 09:10 PM) What a shame about J Parker. Dude was really starting to shine.
@  thejohnnygold : (26 January 2017 - 10:46 PM) No, but I saw Isaiah Thomas tell P-Bev, "You can't hold me!"
@  slick shoes : (26 January 2017 - 06:58 PM) Could anyone read James' lips last night while he was torching Dekker? I saw a few "pay attention!" 's, but couldn't make out the rest.
@  redfaithful : (02 January 2017 - 04:04 PM) Very good article about Harden, Westbrook and turnovers: http://www.fanragspo...rnover-problem/
@  slick shoes : (02 January 2017 - 02:20 PM) So now Dmo will play on a one year vet min deal with the Pels. Wonder what coud've changed his mind about his deal requirements.... <_<
@  thejohnnygold : (31 December 2016 - 12:01 AM) I imagine Brewer has been "dangling" ever since he signed that last contract. I saw some rumor that Kosta Koufos is at the top of our list for trade targets right now. Those are words I never wanted to hear :lol:
@  majik19 : (30 December 2016 - 08:46 PM) found this hilarious: Zach Lowe of ESPN reports that Houston has been "dangling" Corey Brewer in trade talks, who could provide Sacramento with another wing player in case it loses out on Rudy Gay at some point. But he also noted that Brewer's name hasn't drawn much traction.
@  slick shoes : (28 December 2016 - 07:47 PM) DMo working out for the Lakers per ESPN. I wouldn't hate it, but don't see him there long term for some reason.

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E'Twaun Moore and the Perils of Asset Accumulation

Jeremy Lin all over again?

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#1 Sir Thursday

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 12:38 AM

Another year, another point guard cast off from Houston starting to play well as a starter for another club. Last year it was Lin, this year it's Moore. I guess at least this time we didn't have him in camp for a while before we cut him, and he's not going to get held up as an icon/figurehead for an entire ethnic group, but nevertheless it does feel like the pattern repeating itself to a degree.

So the question is - is there an inherent danger in assembling a squad with too many NBA level players in it? Does the way that the inevitably required cuts of good players inflate the level of the talent pool available to other teams mean that Morey should be modifying his strategy slightly?

In another thread, I posted the list of players that we have cut from the roster this off-season. Here it is again:

Jon Brockman
Gary Forbes
Josh Harrelson -> Now with Miami
JaJuan Johnson
Jerome Jordan -> Now with Memphis
Jon Leuer -> Now with Cleveland
Shaun Livingston
E'Twaun Moore -> Now with Orlando
Luis Scola -> Now with Phoenix
Diamon Simpson
Sean Williams

Livingston and Forbes are more than capable of finding a team to play for too, and someone will roll the dice with JaJuan Johnson, I expect. The net effect of some of our trades seems to be that we strip our trade partners of assets, only to throw them back onto the open market. The rest of the league are the beneficiaries of our strategy, and what's more it's possible that it could alienate our trade partners slightly (since there are rules in place that do not allow them to resign players they have traded away for a reasonably long length of time, IIRC).

You might say that we're picking the diamonds in the rough out of the detritus we're getting in trade, but in the case of many of these players we never actually got a good look at their play, so we don't really get that benefit out of it either.

Then of course there's the loss of face that comes with letting a good player slip away. Lin was initially a bit of an egg on the face for Morey and Alexander. Who's to say that won't happen again? Who's to say it's not happening right now?
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Posted 08 November 2012 - 12:58 AM

I see where you're coming from, but the fact that we have too many good players that we have to cut some of them is a good problem to have. At the time of the cuts the only one that had any trade value was Scola, and that value wasn't going to bring us back anything we wanted(as it would've left us taking an equally bad contract back most likely). Same thing goes with Lin last year. I understand the disdain for letting these guys go, when they're high enough caliber to get a job elsewhere, but they wouldn't have gotten a chance here, and at this point I do believe we kept the right guys(that could change, but none of us can predict the future).
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Posted 08 November 2012 - 01:10 AM

I see where you're coming from, but the fact that we have too many good players that we have to cut some of them is a good problem to have. At the time of the cuts the only one that had any trade value was Scola, and that value wasn't going to bring us back anything we wanted(as it would've left us taking an equally bad contract back most likely). Same thing goes with Lin last year. I understand the disdain for letting these guys go, when they're high enough caliber to get a job elsewhere, but they wouldn't have gotten a chance here, and at this point I do believe we kept the right guys(that could change, but none of us can predict the future).

agreed. we have to cut somebody and like blakecouey said and (IMO) we are keeping the right ones most of the time
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Posted 08 November 2012 - 07:30 AM

scola is the only one on that list that is better than mediocre. moore is getting minutes in orlando because that team has nothing to lose and not many other options. all the other players in my opinion are pretty bad and had absolutely no trade value. just baggage that came with what we actually wanted.
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Posted 08 November 2012 - 06:56 PM

You also have to remember that success in the NBA has as much to do with coaching style and opportunity as talent. Jeremy Lin's talent is driving and kicking, so you put him on Memphis where he has to feed the post, defend, and shoot threes and he probably doesn't make the roster. Instead he went to the knicks in a PG friendly system with few three point threats and he was successful. (Extreme example but it illustrates the point)

There will always be guys with talent coming up through our system, but if they don't fit the team as constructed c'est la vie.
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