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@  redfaithful : (05 September 2015 - 10:48 PM) Llull line from today loss to Serbia: 30MIN 1-10PG, 0-5 3PG, 4-4FT 6AST, 1TO, 4REB, +/- -11
@  Losthief : (03 September 2015 - 02:27 AM) this dude's gun fired and all he got a misdemeanor at bush lol: http://abc13.com/new...ush-iah/815795/
@  Losthief : (03 September 2015 - 02:26 AM) theres more articles all over, but the jist is houston (and texas) doesn't really arrest for it, they just recommend you leave it in your car when they catch it. So seems dwight got lucky he was in texas and not cali or the NE.
@  Losthief : (03 September 2015 - 02:22 AM) honestly we should just be glad they caught it...
@  Losthief : (03 September 2015 - 02:21 AM) response: http://nymag.com/dai...n_airplane.html
@  Losthief : (03 September 2015 - 01:42 AM) one bullet left in the chamber is diff than fully loaded and ready to go. Still stupid...but not like he was prepared for a shooting spree.
@  jorgeaam : (02 September 2015 - 09:33 PM) http://www.tmz.com/2...t-get-arrested/
@  jorgeaam : (02 September 2015 - 09:33 PM) So according to TMZ (I know, I know) Dwight Howard had an incident last month in which he took a loaded gun into an airport, but he was allowed to give it to a friend to take it back and wasn't arrested.
@  jorgeaam : (31 August 2015 - 10:45 PM) The Los Angeles Rockets, lol
@  redfaithful : (31 August 2015 - 09:51 PM) Seems that Chuck is also on his way to the Clippers.
@  slick shoes : (24 August 2015 - 06:14 PM) ill just leave this here...
@  slick shoes : (24 August 2015 - 06:14 PM) http://www.timeandda...04&font=cursive
@  timetodienow... : (21 August 2015 - 07:20 PM) At least in my opinion.
@  timetodienow... : (21 August 2015 - 07:20 PM) I love having Terry. But the main factor was that New Orleans will NOT compete for a championship this year and the Rockets will.
@  jorgeaam : (21 August 2015 - 03:57 AM) Things that make me like the JET even more
@  jorgeaam : (21 August 2015 - 03:57 AM) Jason Terry said that he turned down a more lucrative deal from New Orleans in order to return to Houston.
@  clydesmoustache : (19 August 2015 - 08:32 AM) A year ago who would have thought I would be so happy to have Jason Terry on my team. Welcome back JET! Hurry up October!
@  cointurtlemoose : (19 August 2015 - 04:45 AM) Terry I love yooouuuuuuuuu
@  jorgeaam : (19 August 2015 - 02:38 AM) Yay Terry is back!
@  majik19 : (15 August 2015 - 09:33 PM) and i thought these shouts were limited to some number of characters!

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#1 Red94

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    Posted 12 July 2015 - 10:20 PM

    New post: Houston Rockets offseason check-in
    By: Rahat Huq

    • I can't even apologize to you guys anymore for being MIA because it keeps happening.  I'm like Will's dad on Fresh Prince in that episode where he keeps promising that they'll hang out and getting Will's hopes up and then canceling.  Remember that episode?  That was like one of the greatest Uncle Phil moments in the history of the show, at the very end.  Anyways, I don't really know what to say.  I just got married at the end of May and work's gotten pretty crazy of late.  But I will get it together again.
    • I just went to the car wash and saw the weirdest thing: I'm in line, in my car, and in front of me, there's this guy who I perceived to be the car wash manager, standing next to a worker.  So the manager is this burly ape of a fellow while the worker was this short pudgy little creature.  So the manager is berating the worker, saying "I didn't tell you to do it.  I told you to just show me where the hose is."  But the worker is like still holding onto this hose-like thing that is hanging from the ceiling.  And the manager is going on and on about this.  Suddenly they get the hose down and hell breaks loose as the two men begin struggling, each tugging at this hose, trying to rip it out of the other's hands.  I have no idea what the hell was going on.  Everyone in the vicinity just stopped and observed.  The worker, being of vastly inferior size, strength eventually succumbed, but not before the end of the hose hit a nearby car against its door, rather violently.  The weird thing was that the two men didn't even go to blows after that, as you'd expect.  The worker just sort of cowered away.  My wife and I reversed and went to a different car wash.
    • Okay, on to basketball.  If you follow me on Twitter, you already know where I stand on things, so I haven't completely gone MIA.  If you don't follow me, why not?  I'm not really too down about missing out on Aldridge.  I mean I guess it would have been really cool, but I don't exactly know that that was what this team needed.  I think an improving Motiejunas and Josh Smith are enough at the '4' for this team.  What this team needs is a new point guard.  So in that sense, this was nothing like last year when several of you had to check in on my well-being after the Bosh announcement.
    • While recanting that episode above at the car wash, I just suddenly remembered the Ron Artest quote after the brawl, when he, now infamously, asked Stephen Jackson, "do you think we're going to get in trouble?"
    • It kind of shows where you are as a franchise, and as a fanbase, that the pursuit of a third star sort of leaves you apathetic.  Christ, remember when Kevin Martin was this team's best player?
    • It's taking me a while to get used to these numbers being thrown around, in light of the expected cap increase, because in the olden days, especially in relation to where the Rockets were as a team, paying Corey Brewer $8million a year just would not have happened.  But now, it just makes sense, coming off a trip to the Western Conference Finals.  It's amazing just how important Brewer was to this team's success, as he almost single-handedly added an entirely new element to its outlook, with his frantic pushing of the pace in transition.  It would have really hurt to lose Brew.
    • I wasn't as happy about the Beverley signing, as you may recall.  As I had been writing all of last year, Beverley was dreadful, on both sides of the floor, to the point where I argued the team was playing 4-on-5 when he was on the court.  With his defense dripping so drastically, really the only thing he brought was rebounding, which led you to wonder...are a couple of extra rebounds a game overcoming his deficiencies in every other aspect of the game?  Of course not.  But I've come around, largely due to the (hopeful) thinking that much of his defensive slippage was due to various injuries.  And you have to think he continues his improvement shooting the ball.  In theory, Beverley at best case is probably the single most ideal fit next to James Harden: a 39% from 3 shooting, tenacious defender who is happy without the ball.  The problem is that theory didn't meet reality at all last season.  But $6million a year is reasonable pay for a third guard, if the team can acquire a starter, and there is still flexibility to do just that.
    • The most exciting thing about bringing back Beverley though is that the team will actually enjoy some sort of continuity, for the first time in a while.  As a fan, it would have been less than ideal to gut the core of a team that provided the franchise its most memorable run in twenty seasons.  And to that end, Beverley personifies this team's ethos and identity.  Where Dwight is hated, and Ariza is an underrated goon, Beverley is the lead goon of all goons, and the heart and soul of this club.  He is their emotional leader.  I'm glad he's staying.
    • To those of you asking me about the draft, I have no idea who the hell Sam Dekker is.  You guys know better than to ask me about the draft and know by now that I don't watch college basketball.  There are few things I find more offensive than college basketball.
    • If you can flip Dekker, Jones, and salary for Ty Lawson, that's a better offseason than getting Aldridge, in my opinion, as I had been saying all along.  We'll just have to see how this plays out.  But after bringing back Brewer, this team would go to another level pairing Lawson next to Harden in the backcourt.
    • Yeah it was great seeing Dallas humiliated, because...who doesn't love that, but it wasn't worth the opportunity cost of seeing the Clippers defanged.  Now that team comes back even better, with Paul Pierce and Lance, and maybe a newfound sense of togetherness.  There was a 48 hour period where the Clippers had basically fallen completely out of contention and that is now no longer the case.  And nothing we gained was worth it.

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    #2 majik19

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      Posted 12 July 2015 - 11:33 PM

      Glad you're alive!

       

      We're definitely on the same page as far as Lawson goes. I doubt it happens in the offseason now, but hopefully by midseason? 

       

      I'm surprised you didn't mention Harrell, and not because he's going to be a contributor in 2015-16, but just because we yet again drafted a 6'8 PF...

       

      On another note, I think the reported Marcus Thornton deal for the minimum is excellent - he could provide a spark off the bench when the buckets aren't falling. I don't know if he and Harden can play together, but I don't think I would be opposed to him playing some backup 2 guard minutes.


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      Posted 13 July 2015 - 05:00 AM

      WELCOME BACK it has been awhile :) I understand how life can get busy, but don't forget us. I agree on your outlook for the Rockets except on the trading T. Jones front. I don't know if signing J. Smith is the right move. if we get him for cheap......then yeah, but I would be happier with D-Mo/T. Jones duo manning PF. even though the writing appears to be on the wall for T. Jones we need to send him east if possible. Lawson appears to be an answer, but is he THE answer and how much is to much to pay for him if we move in that direction. their is no doubt in my mind Lawson is capable enough offensively, but the man is 5' 10" with high hill sneakers on :lol: what's to stop him from being posted up in the playoffs? what we gain offensively will have a price at the other end. when we play elite teams will they be able to exploit that and use that to keep him off the floor? before I start jumping on the Lawson bangwagon I think we have better options. I say check with Phoenix first on availability of Bledsoe. if you get the cold shoulder move on to Indiana to see about G. Hill or Sac town on Collison. one reason I don't like the Lawson trade idea is we are giving up assets, defense and salary cap space. his contract while not an albatross is still what 12....13mil per. I know that will be a bargain next year, but it kills flexibility for this year


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      you can only warn a man that the bridge is out.....if he keeps driving he's on his own B)


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        Posted 13 July 2015 - 07:59 AM

        Anyone like Mario Chalmers? He's a capable defender, distributor, and although his stroke abandoned him last season, he was quite a good 3 point shooter pairing with LeBron. James harden can play Lebron's role if Chalmers signs with the Rockets. Harden is probably the best dish-out passer in the league. And the Heat are ready to give him up for nothing. The rockets could package Papa and other assets for him.
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          Posted 13 July 2015 - 10:09 AM

          Really like the thornton signing for the vet's miniumum. Another player who can help us off the bench and provide some 3PT shooting. Let's see if they grab the PG that we all have been asking for.


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            Posted 13 July 2015 - 12:33 PM

            Anyone else have the impression that the lack of interest in Lawson (not only the Rockets, but league-wide) indicates locker-room or off-the-court issues?

             

            Nick Johnson's lack of development at PG, although not particularly surprising, has to be disappointing to Rockets management.


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            Posted 14 July 2015 - 04:31 AM

            Anyone else have the impression that the lack of interest in Lawson (not only the Rockets, but league-wide) indicates locker-room or off-the-court issues?

             

            Nick Johnson's lack of development at PG, although not particularly surprising, has to be disappointing to Rockets management.

            no doubt Lawson and Denver management are at odds. however I think Denver is just getting some real low ball offers. since everyone knows Denver needs to move him and the fact he is not a top tier player getting value for him is probably Denver's dilemma. until Denver comes down off their high horse a deal is unlikely. there are not a lot of teams in need of a player like Lawson right now and the teams who could use him aren't willing to empty the treasure chest. this is probably the worse time to be trying to trade a PG unless he's elite.

             

            as for Nick Johnson.......maybe the lack of moves by the Rockets indicates they see something in him? hmmmmm Just like you I doubt it, but you never know


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            you can only warn a man that the bridge is out.....if he keeps driving he's on his own B)


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              Posted 14 July 2015 - 01:49 PM

              Anyone else have the impression that the lack of interest in Lawson (not only the Rockets, but league-wide) indicates locker-room or off-the-court issues?

              Nick Johnson's lack of development at PG, although not particularly surprising, has to be disappointing to Rockets management.

              Ty Lawson has interest but teams are not willing to meet the Nuggets demands at this time.
              Has Nick Johnson played a summer league game?
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              Posted 14 July 2015 - 02:22 PM

              I was watching McHale's mid-game interview at one of the Summer League games and he was talking about player development.  He said they focus on one thing.  Get good at one thing--really good.  Then try to add a second and so on.  He said they do it that way because otherwise you get a guy trying to get good at a lot of things and winding up not being good at anything.

               

              With that in mind, I'd guess that Nick Johnson is working on his shooting (which is standard for all Rockets players) and his "one thing".  Is it the pick n roll?  A cross-over move?  Running the fast break?  We'll probably be able to tell once he gets on the floor.

               

              I like Nick Johnson.  I think he can become a solid role player in the league--I'm thinking Derek Fisher solid (sorry to bring his name into this).  He's not developing into the next Gary Payton, but I think he can play the point, run some basic offense, knock down shots, and play solid defense while being a leader for the team in terms of heart, attitude, and effort.

               

              I understand if the Rockets opt to trade him, but I like what I see in him and think McHale and Co. can develop him into a solid NBA player.

               

              Speaking of trades and what-not...We just signed Marcus Thornton and the word is we are re-signing Terry.  Daryl Morey has established a pattern of over-stuffing the roster (with Les Alexander's blessing.  Spending a few extra million up front pays dividends down the road.) and sorting it all out later.

               

              Yes, there will be cuts, but I still feel a trade is coming.  Thornton is an interesting addition (TheDreamShake has a nice breakdown of what he can bring to the table offensively HERE), but I do not think he is the secondary creator the team needs/covets.  The fit should be good and, allegedly, he turned down more money elsewhere for this reason.  Fit, playing for a winning team after spending 6 years on losers, and moving closer to home (Baton Rouge, LA) all likely factored into his decision.

               

              I like this video as a one-stop example of what he can bring to the table.  He goes off against the 2013-14 Pacers defense with a 42 point (0 assist) performance.

               

               

              I can see him fitting into our offense quite well, plus I think he can rebound pretty well for his position and he doesn't turn it over much (likely because he doesn't pass much).

               

              Back to the roster.  It is pretty full.  Assuming Terry does re-sign here is where we are at:

               

              Bev, NJ, Prigioni

              Harden, Thornton, Terry

              Ariza, Brewer, Dekker

              D-Mo, Jones, Papanikolaou, Harrell

              Howard, Capela, Dorsey

               

              That's 16 players plus we inked Christian Wood and I think a couple other guys to partially guaranteed deals.  Certainly we intend to use the MLE on one of Josh Smith/KJ McDaniels which takes us to 17 guaranteed salary slots.

               

              No big deal, we can waive some guys and eat the salary.  Yet, a trade is better.  Waiving Dorsey seems fine, but he was really useful for us last year and Capela is not ready to be a full time back up (yet).  In fact, he reminds me a lot of John Henson.  Milwaukee fans are still waiting for that to happen.  He doesn't have the range to play PF and he doesn't have the bulk to play center.  Capela also has near Joey-Dorsey-Level fouling issues to resolve.

               

              No, Morey needs to find a 2-1 deal that involves Prigioni, Jones (because he has more value than Papa and we aren't moving D-Mo), and a future first to get help.  The problem is salary matching for anyone worthwhile.  Those two only combine for $4.2M in salary (not sure how the pick factors in) and I believe we are just over the cap which means any trade has to be within 125% salary matching.  That's $5.25M.

               

              So, we either have to convince someone to take Papa, add a third player, or shop in the discount bin for a PG upgrade.  Now, it doesn't have to be a true PG--combo guards can work here.  Players who fall under the $5.25M mark and might be available:

               

              Dion Waiters ($5.14M)

              Darren Collison ($5.01M)

              Mario Chalmers ($4.3M)

              Marcus Smart ($3.4M)

              Evan Turner ($3.4M)

              Randy Foye ($3.13M)

              DJ Augustin ($3M)  I just put this here because so many people think he is available after the Kanter signing.  I say, "No way, Jose!"  That's a solid back up PG for $3M on a team with only a rookie back up PG behind him and they are thinking Finals this year.  Not Available...unless you want to overpay.

              Tony Wroten ($2.18M)

              Steve Blake ($2.1M) --again, not likely since SVG brought him to Detroit for a reason.

               

              You get the point.  By now, we should just keep Prigioni because we are no longer upgrading much.  I have long been a fan of getting Randy Foye and I doubt Marcus Smart is available and if he is it isn't for scraps.

               

              As much as we want a bigger name at PG, the opportunity cost is going to be big most likely.  Who knows what Sac-town does with Collison?  When does SVG move Jennings?

               

              I don't envy Morey's job right now.  He's no longer just shopping for whatever good pieces he can find.  He's got to find that last, perfect piece without screwing up the rest of the puzzle in the process.


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              #10 majik19

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                Posted 14 July 2015 - 02:27 PM

                As much as we want a bigger name at PG, the opportunity cost is going to be big most likely.  Who knows what Sac-town does with Collison?  When does SVG move Jennings?

                 

                I was wondering about Jennings myself... The Blake move plus re-upping with Jackson for the max seems to indicate that they're willing to move on from him... 


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                  Posted 14 July 2015 - 03:20 PM

                  Lawson got arrested on his second DUI.  Fantastic.  How much of this is true behavior issues versus unhappiness with the situation in Denver?  In other words, if we traded for him, would we be trading for a cancer that ate this team alive, or would coming to a team like the Rockets be a remedy for his issues?


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                    Posted 14 July 2015 - 04:34 PM

                    Great post JG! U are red94's uncle phil!

                    I also have thought about Randy Foye. From that dream shake article it seems his skill set seems very similar to Thornton so we might have an even bigger bargain than Foye could have provided. Fingers crossed!
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                      Posted 14 July 2015 - 06:07 PM

                      Lawson got arrested on his second DUI.  Fantastic.  How much of this is true behavior issues versus unhappiness with the situation in Denver?  In other words, if we traded for him, would we be trading for a cancer that ate this team alive, or would coming to a team like the Rockets be a remedy for his issues?

                       

                      Seems like his issues are with his personal life. This isn't like Josh Smith, who only had issues on the basketball court (fit, style of play, etc.). Two DUIs in 6 months shows immaturity and recklessness. 

                       

                      If he's available solely on salary match, then I might take a chance. I wouldn't give up anything of value. The situation isn't the same, but the name "Eddie Griffin" keeps floating through my head. 


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                      Posted 14 July 2015 - 06:57 PM

                      Great post JG! U are red94's uncle phil!

                      I also have thought about Randy Foye. From that dream shake article it seems his skill set seems very similar to Thornton so we might have an even bigger bargain than Foye could have provided. Fingers crossed!

                       

                      Uncle Phil???

                       

                      anigif_enhanced-buzz-31304-1388709989-10

                       

                      If you say so... :lol:

                       

                      Foye can score in bunches and is streaky from 3 like Thornton.  One difference is he can slide into the playmaker/creator role with ease.  He didn't have a great season last year due to injury and Lawson being healthier.  The prior season, when Lawson was out Foye stepped in and racked up some quality assist numbers.  He often pairs it with too many turnovers; however, if you look at his top assist performances from that season almost all came against top flight competition.

                       

                      As a secondary creator next to Harden and lead creator for the second unit I think he could do very, very well.  Now, his defense is not even a question mark...it's pretty bad by most all accounts.

                       

                      Another difference between Foye and Thornton is the volume of 3 pointers he takes while still maintaining quality efficiency.  Over the last 4 years he has jacked 5-6 threes per game (averaging between 30-21 mpg depending on the season) while shooting .386, .410, .380, and .357.  In addition to that he shoots over 40% from the corners and naturally avoids mid-range shots.

                       

                      Thornton has had seasons where he shot more threes and been above average, but more often than not his % dips as his attempts increase.

                       

                      Foye's got some miles on his legs with 613 games played; however, he has only started 385 of those.

                       

                      I think that Foye plus Thornton could form an interesting back-up 1-2 punch for us plus each could fill in as starters when needed.  Each is a solid spot up shooter and each can generate offense.  In addition, each has the size to play the 1, 2, or 3.

                       

                      In a trade, I'd hope Morey didn't give up very much as Foye is on the last year of his deal and I'd hate to give up a good asset for a 1 year rental.


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                        Posted 14 July 2015 - 08:07 PM

                        Marcus Thorton = Goodbye KJ Mcdaniels.

                         

                        Eddie Griffin comment = Low blow... but so true

                         

                        Brandon Jennings = Elite basketball team.


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                        Posted 14 July 2015 - 09:11 PM

                        Marcus Thorton = Goodbye KJ Mcdaniels.

                         

                        Eddie Griffin comment = Low blow... but so true

                         

                        Brandon Jennings = Elite basketball team.

                         

                        Not so fast!  We've still got the full MLE.  Josh Smith is "enjoying the process" and who knows where he winds up.  I still have to believe McDaniels is a high priority (quite possibly higher than Smith) because Morey gave up an asset (Canaan) for him.  Morey only trades up.  Plus, Morey has proven he is not afraid to sign a player to a vet min. deal and then waive him to make room for someone else.

                         

                        As for Smith, Morey gave up Tarik Black to get him and wouldn't want to waste that asset either....hmmmmm  :unsure:

                         

                        I think a big factor may be what role Smith wants for this season.  He's not starting for us--that's D-Mo's spot.  The problem is the teams rumored to be connected with him already have incumbent PF's (Griffin, Cousins) so maybe he is holding out for a starting offer?  There's been so much movement I can't remember who has a PF anymore...did Portland pick someone up besides Ed Davis?  Indiana?  Maybe Phoenix does a 3-way deal that moves M. Morris out, brings Smith to them and nets us a PG?  :)

                         

                        As for Lawson.  NO.  N-O.  Not even if they waive him and he wants to play for the vet min.  There's, "oops, I made a mistake and learned my lesson" and then there's, "I'm hell-bent on destroying my life at all costs".  He has clearly moved into the latter of those two.

                         

                        I'm glad I'm not alone on the Brandon Jennings Bandwagon.  Here, enjoy last season's 24 point/21 assist game.

                         

                         

                        I think his low-ish fg% gets a bad rap.  Yes, he can be a bit of a chucker, but if you watch closely a lot of what he does is calculated.  If he knows he's got 1-2 strong rebounders in position he will draw the defense away and throw up a shot knowing that it either goes in or leads to an offensive rebound and likely a put-back dunk for his teammate.  Maybe I give him too much credit, but that's what I see.

                         

                        I truly believe he and Harden would be the league's 2nd most feared backcourt duo.


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                        Posted 14 July 2015 - 09:27 PM

                        That last video got me stoked about Jennings...here's his 2015 season highlight video.  The guy reads the floor so fast and is quick to make decisions.  Paired with Harden, we'd have ourselves a classic "Thunder and Lightning" duo.  

                         

                         

                        Here's hoping that Achilles heals up nicely and SVG wants what we've got to give for him.


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                          Posted 14 July 2015 - 11:34 PM

                          Hey I am all for BJ.  Ever since the 50+ point game his rookie season i've been out for this guy.


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                            Posted 14 July 2015 - 11:37 PM

                            My god those highlights... I don't think you could pay patrick beverly to replicate any of those movements...


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                              Posted 15 July 2015 - 02:41 AM

                              I'm still afraid of his defense, but given Lawson's troubles, he's certainly our best option.


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