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[thenit]

JG: I just think we need a larger sample size before we can argue if he would be an efficient volume scorer. I just think its a combination of Lin being confident set of mind and being aggressive and also taking the shots that are given to him and not forcing shots. Which is a good thing that he isn't a JR Smith who jacks up shots regardless of the situation.

 

Some of the teams on that list are good D, Toronto has a good D and he played well. But as I said larger sample size with maybe a total of 82 games should show a better stats or maybe even a 100.

[thejohnnygold]

JG: I just think we need a larger sample size before we can argue if he would be an efficient volume scorer. I just think its a combination of Lin being confident set of mind and being aggressive and also taking the shots that are given to him and not forcing shots. Which is a good thing that he isn't a JR Smith who jacks up shots regardless of the situation.

 

Some of the teams on that list are good D, Toronto has a good D and he played well. But as I said larger sample size with maybe a total of 82 games should show a better stats or maybe even a 100.

 

Well now we're coming full circle.  The point of looking into it was that same sample size was being used to support Lin shooting more--I agree it is fairly small, but it's what is being used.  That's my point.  Most players can't sustain it.  My opinion is Lin is one of those players.

 

That Toronto game was a 2OT game where Lin played 45+ minutes to score 31 points.  Gay, Lowry, Valanciunas, and Ross all fouled out of that game before it was done.  Valanciunas only played 29 minutes--which works with the theory that Lin does much better when there is not solid rim protection in the game.  His 9 free throw attempts also support that.

 

We'll have to agree to disagree about the good defense teams.

[bladad]

Don't Live in the past? Ok, who has won the last two championships? Miami. Who is their starting PG? Mario Chalmers. Are you saying he is an offensively gifted player? He is averaging 9.7 PPG and Beverley is averaging 9.4. They are the same player. The Pacers have George Hill. He is averaging 10.9. What a great two way player. Guess One trick Ponies can win.

Not a fair comparison when both have a ball dominant 3 that runs point forward for vast stretches of the game

[Willk]

Not a fair comparison when both have a ball dominant 3 that runs point forward for vast stretches of the game

And the Rox have a ball dominating 2 guard. Comparison is correct

[YaoMan]

Please don't live in the past. In today, every players, including PG, must play both ways. Period. One trick pony ain't enough anymore.

 

 

Not a fair comparison when both have a ball dominant 3 that runs point forward for vast stretches of the game

I would have to agree with Willk that any comparison is fair since your post doesn't specify today's team with a certain style run offense.  You stated above in today's game every player including PG must be able to play both ways.  I think that's a pretty inaccurate statement seeing how Willk gave you plenty of examples and your original post mentions nothing about non ball dominate players who are not PGs as a criteria. Around the right team, a lot weaknesses can be masked. I don't know that any team has all starting 5 players that are great two way players as your original post indicates.