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[Knickabokkaz]

Jeremy Lin could be on his way out of Houston according to a NY source Alan Hahn.

Alan Hahn covers the Knicks and does the pre-game and post game show for the Knicks.

He also does a talk show for ESPN New York 98.7FM which I was just listening to and heard this...

 

"From what I've heard and I talked to some other GM's around the league, there is a strong feeling that if the Rockets can find a taker, they will DEFINITELY move Jeremy Lin, that's for sure."

 

I live in NY, I know he's a reliable source.

I recorded the audio here ...

 

http://tinypic.com/r/29da4b9/5

Edited by Knickabokkaz, 14 December 2013 - 05:15 PM.

[Knickabokkaz]

Its nothing new, Just proven evidence now.

http://picosong.com/...8a693c572597de/

Edited by Knickabokkaz, 14 December 2013 - 05:32 PM.

[Mason Khamvilay]

That's if Morey can get proper value in return, which I'm guessing is a lottery 1st. Teams are a lot more stingy with their 1sts than they used to be.

[RudyT1995]

I will miss all the LOFs when this eventually happens.  What would we do with out ya'll.  

[HazeWinkle]

My guts telling me Asik will be traded for the bucks ilyasova and zaza pachula and maybe with a pick. Lin isnt going nowhere he makes to much money for the rockets organization in the asian markets

Edited by HazeWinkle, 14 December 2013 - 08:14 PM.

[blakecouey]

I will miss all the LOFs when this eventually happens.  What would we do with out ya'll.  

We will have less argument over Lin's usage/value/skill.  I have never before seen a player that creates such a divide in fans who seem to be watching two entirely different games by one player.

[rm90025]

There will be plenty of takers given his solid play, his ability to play 2 positions well, and his adaptability. It also helps that he has an expiring contract at the end of next season. Don't think the move would be good for the Rockets, but would likely be good for him. Teams that want to tank will probably not take him because he'll win too many games.

[TeamBall]

Two mistakes the ROX will regret.....

 

With Asik, we could have won the game in Portland. Without him, we let the GSW bench beat us up in the paint last night.

 

The same will be true trading Lin and the effect will be the longer term impact on the team's motion offense. 

[Losthief]

i think lin's availabiliy is directly related to the Dec 19th deadline. As in, LIn's not going anywhere currently, but whatever we get back for Asik (or Asik himself if we don't trade) will along with Lin (playing very well and expanding his value) be used to aquire what we really want at the trade deadline.

 

Aka, as teams fall out of the playoff race, go for broke on 'riggin for wiggins', and get decimated by injuries, we'll have more leverage and Lin plus a couple of 1st round picks, or Lin plus a 1st round pick and young asset sounds more like what we might have to give up as a part of package for elite talent(s) than Lin + Asik.

 

Personally, i hope we don't trade Lin, I like him in his ginoboli role, and his growth curve (to me) has been impressive, but if morey is willing to trade him, maybe he knows more about said growth curve than I can see (very very likely). Or perhaps Lin isn't happy just like Asik, but just hides it better and continues to work hard (speculation only there) and morey's just putting out feelers cause of chemistry.

 

edit: same could be said for Asik, Asik plus 2 1st rounders or a Asik plus a 1st Rounder and a Pick sounds better than Lin + Asik to rebuilding teams (those 'selling' talent) i suppose too, maybe we don't have the bull market for Asik morey wants, so he's looking to set up the next deal via Lin? (again all my stuff on Lin is pure speculation on my part)

Edited by Losthief, 14 December 2013 - 08:49 PM.

[Losthief]

I will miss all the LOFs when this eventually happens.  What would we do with out ya'll.  

 

Ah, but we still got the hair and the beard.

 

We really need a hair based nickname for Dwight....like...Mr. Clean the Glass...or something....just to make the balance work right!

[blakecouey]

Ah, but we still got the hair and the beard.

 

We really need a hair based nickname for Dwight....like...Mr. Clean the Glass...or something....just to make the balance work right!

Very true.  

[Buckko]

Lin is to important to our offensive trio of lin,parsons, and harden in which at least two has to be on the court at one time. They are all facilitators, good passers, shooters, excellent drivers and kick out the ball. Trading one would put us in a bind especially if another gets injured like the Suns game where only harden played and the suns zoned in on him and shut our offense down.

[Hockey the Harden Way]

The Rockets have shown in Golden State that they might not need Jeremy Lin.  I think it would be a good move for both player and team, because of a combination of a skillset that does not fit the offensive philosophy and a seeming lack of trust from the coaches.  The former item I also think is at the crux of this so-called "LOF clash" with some Rockets fans.  Unlike other NBA teams, there is a reverence for the GM here (Daryl Morey) and his offensive philosophy, and those fans and "Lin-Only Fans" have created a polarization that is quite unprecedented amongst fans of a specific team.  The trade would not only diffuse this clash, but also introduce Lin's fans to a fan base which would likely be more embracing to such "player only" support.  (LOFs and Knicks fans got along fine, until Lin left the Knicks.)

 

I think Lin has a fatal flaw....  He's too prone to get overwhelmed by high-pressure defense....  And plays timid when he loses confidence.  It could be why he lost his starting job to Pat Beverley, who never plays timid.

 

For Lin's sake, I hope he lands with a contender or team with a good player culture.  For the Rockets' sake, I hope we land an "Asik replacement" who is more receptive to bench play (nobody with displace DH) and a "grinder four" from the bench who enjoys setting screens, gumming up the other team's half-court offense, and rebounding above anything else.  We have scorers, we just need more grinders.

[Knickabokkaz]

If you go by say Lin's last 2 games, I dont think its an injury that he's coming back from that made him shoot only 4 shots per game during the last 2 games. i put in a post before... he just seems dis-interested now. he's not aggressive, he's passive.. he's a totally different player when he's in a different mindset. i honestly think he knows he might not be here too long and he's kind of like Pau Gasol. He's moody, he's bothered by trade conversations, it affects their play.  

[Cooper]

Lins had games were he hasn't shot well or often before, yet he's still on the roster. Seems like a non story. I can't remember the last time teams swapped starting Pgs in a trade and that's what it would have to be.

[BallSoHarden]

Trade before December 19th:

HOU Receives:

 - Spencer Hawes

 - Evan Turner

PHI Receives:

 - Omer Asik

 - Ronnie Brewer

 - 2nd round pick(s)

 

Trade at deadline:

HOU Receives:

 - Mike Conley

 - Tayshaun Prince

MEM Receives:

 - Jeremy Lin

 - Evan Turner

 

First trade we get a backup C, who can also stretch the floor to play PF if facing a big lineup. Turner is later flipped at the deadline. The second trade, you can only play 5 guys at a time and in the playoffs you mainly play your starters, so play the best 5 players you can (like Portland, Indiana). In the playoffs the Rockets won't be able to play Lin and Beverley significant minutes, so we should upgrade one for a 2-way player like Conley. Conley can control the ball, run an offense, hit 3s, and play DEFENSE. Memphis struggles finding offense at times and trading for Lin and Turner would help fix that, and also gets rid of Prince's contract. For us Prince would be a veteran presence and an expiring contract to trade next year. Rockets would then have an 8 or 9 man rotation for the playoffs.

[BrentYen]

I will miss all the LOFs when this eventually happens.  What would we do with out ya'll.  

WE will miss you too, really looking forward to this. But, what is the likelihood?

[Losthief]

Trade before December 19th:

HOU Receives:

 - Spencer Hawes

 - Evan Turner

PHI Receives:

 - Omer Asik

 - Ronnie Brewer

 - 2nd round pick(s)

 

Trade at deadline:

HOU Receives:

 - Mike Conley

 - Tayshaun Prince

MEM Receives:

 - Jeremy Lin

 - Evan Turner

 

First trade we get a backup C, who can also stretch the floor to play PF if facing a big lineup. Turner is later flipped at the deadline. The second trade, you can only play 5 guys at a time and in the playoffs you mainly play your starters, so play the best 5 players you can (like Portland, Indiana). In the playoffs the Rockets won't be able to play Lin and Beverley significant minutes, so we should upgrade one for a 2-way player like Conley. Conley can control the ball, run an offense, hit 3s, and play DEFENSE. Memphis struggles finding offense at times and trading for Lin and Turner would help fix that, and also gets rid of Prince's contract. For us Prince would be a veteran presence and an expiring contract to trade next year. Rockets would then have an 8 or 9 man rotation for the playoffs.

 

interesting, not sure memphis gives up conley...but i'd have to really think about this trade...though i don't remember conley being a + 3pt threat which you need with harden....but in any case, welcome to the forum! and good thoughts...i do like hawes alot...and i'd be interested if turner and harden couldn't play the guards together, how slow is turner's defense...i honestly haven't seen much of him since college, can he guard speedy points possibly?

[Buckko]

The Rockets have shown in Golden State that they might not need Jeremy Lin.  I think it would be a good move for both player and team, because of a combination of a skillset that does not fit the offensive philosophy and a seeming lack of trust from the coaches.  The former item I also think is at the crux of this so-called "LOF clash" with some Rockets fans.  Unlike other NBA teams, there is a reverence for the GM here (Daryl Morey) and his offensive philosophy, and those fans and "Lin-Only Fans" have created a polarization that is quite unprecedented amongst fans of a specific team.  The trade would not only diffuse this clash, but also introduce Lin's fans to a fan base which would likely be more embracing to such "player only" support.  (LOFs and Knicks fans got along fine, until Lin left the Knicks.)

 

I think Lin has a fatal flaw....  He's too prone to get overwhelmed by high-pressure defense....  And plays timid when he loses confidence.  It could be why he lost his starting job to Pat Beverley, who never plays timid.

 

For Lin's sake, I hope he lands with a contender or team with a good player culture.  For the Rockets' sake, I hope we land an "Asik replacement" who is more receptive to bench play (nobody with displace DH) and a "grinder four" from the bench who enjoys setting screens, gumming up the other team's half-court offense, and rebounding above anything else.  We have scorers, we just need more grinders.

Lin lost his job because P-Bev fits better with the starting lineup, even though lin is a better player, but P-bev has been playing more minutes lately due to his D needed on elite PGs in curry and lilard. Also lin just came back from a knee sprain, give him a little bit to get back into the groove.  

[Dayak]

I prefer Bev as the starting PG alongside Harden, but Lin is needed as the scoring punch off the bench. I wonder if he can get some of Casspi's (over)confidence lol, he will be a good contributor for this team. What i saw from Lin is his tendency to be passive when he made some mistakes or his shoot didn't fall. As a young player he should play through his mistakes, keep his chin up and stay agressive. Just keep Lin as long as he doesn't ask for trade like Asik.