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[Rahat Huq]

if t.jones continues at this rate, best bet is probably a draft pick.  

[Buckko]

I don't know but if Asik's attitude has really change and he's embrace the team first mentality then the best bet is really to just keep him.

[rockets best fan]

if t.jones continues at this rate, best bet is probably a draft pick.  

the only way I see the Rockets taking a Draft pick is they intend to flip it immediately for a player. I'll tell you why..........if they trade Asik and don't receive an in coming player they will drop under the salary cap preventing them from spending the mid-level exemption this summer. also I don't see them taking on a salary dump by another team to get that pick unless it will be in the lottery. the only way they can take a pick and still stay over the salary cap is accept an expiring deal to make the money work. I doubt they want that because it offers them no help for this year

[areteejay789]

What about some sort of deal with Cleveland? Asik, brewer, and a first for varajao and waiters? Seems like waiters isn't really too effective alongside kyrie (similar to how jeremy isn't ideal next to harden), plus all the drama involved with him.

 

We could then use Dion a bit, or flip him quickly for something else useful?

 

Only thing is, I'm not sure how this affects Clevelands cap space for next year (Signing lebron?) Asik is 8.3, and brewer wouldn't stick about, and waiters i think is about 4.5, so if they still are enough below the cap to sign lebron, then they might be interested?

[Buckko]

I doubt something there would work.

[rockets best fan]

What about some sort of deal with Cleveland? Asik, brewer, and a first for varajao and waiters? Seems like waiters isn't really too effective alongside kyrie (similar to how jeremy isn't ideal next to harden), plus all the drama involved with him.

 

We could then use Dion a bit, or flip him quickly for something else useful?

 

Only thing is, I'm not sure how this affects Clevelands cap space for next year (Signing lebron?) Asik is 8.3, and brewer wouldn't stick about, and waiters i think is about 4.5, so if they still are enough below the cap to sign lebron, then they might be interested?

I have to agree with Buckko here. I was looking at Cleveland and they really don't have much that can help us. Varajao doesn't appears to be the same player like before his injury and the others are draft bust.........no thanks

[Buckko]

Thompson looks like he is coming into his own but the last thing we need is another PF.

[rockets best fan]

Thompson looks like he is coming into his own but the last thing we need is another PF.

I haven't really checked him out this year. maybe I keep an eye on him over the next few games.

[RollingWave]

if t.jones continues at this rate, best bet is probably a draft pick.  

 

yeah, but you do have to consider the relative depth and insurance issue, if say, Dwight miss half the season for an injury (bad case, but not impossible.) having Asik would mean a ton.  since if you did trade Asik for a pick and this happen.. you'll probably need to use said pick and more to rent a center who won't be as good as Asik.

 

At this point, stand pat and reassess at the deadline. I honestly don't know what they should try at the moment.

[rocketrick]

The one That's grown on me is Asik, Brewer (who I think is only on the roster for the 1.5 million veteran minimum his tenure demanded as trade filler), and Smith for Shawn Marion and Sam Dalembert. It's the stretch 4, defensive stopper and rim protection we need all at the same time. I'd add in 2 second round picks as sweetener if need be. I think the mavericks make that trade as well. And if Marion doesn't stick around after he expires this offseason, it provides the relief to sign Parsons. Not to mention Bear would be great at 15 mins a game.

I just don't see the Rockets trading for a player they just recently traded away (Dalembert) because why would Dalembert "forget" the last time the Rockets traded him and be a consistent good lockerroom guy and backup post player?

[rocketrick]

if t.jones continues at this rate, best bet is probably a draft pick.

Multiple Draft Picks, not just a draft pick, unless the Rockets can obtain a serviceable rotation player plus maybe just a draft pick in return for Asik.

[rocketrick]

Last legs is a little strong, Marion is still elite at what he does. And you're not factoring in contact statuses. Asik's 15 mill next year, the fact that Marion is still crazy productive AND an expiring deal. All those things are quite valuable. That balloon payment wouldn't scare Cuban away, esp with such a reasonable cap number, but he's not dumb. Rockets fans overrate smith. He's efficient but he's a slow footed power forward with no range. Morey can find ten more guys that can do what he can do.

Asik's cap hit is $8.3 million this season and next season. The Rockets could include up to $4 million in cash in addition to Asik to help the team obtaining Asik financially with the actual expense next season to that team financially (but again, has no effect on the actual Salary Cap, very important consideration as teams are very concerned about the repeater tax going into effect starting next season).

[bboley24]

Looks like Kupcheck is looking to make deals.  Why not throw a deal with the Lakers having Jordan Hill apart of the deal?  He seems to have blossomed at the backup center role.  Let's bring the dreads back!

[rockets best fan]

Looks like Kupcheck is looking to make deals.  Why not throw a deal with the Lakers having Jordan Hill apart of the deal?  He seems to have blossomed at the backup center role.  Let's bring the dreads back!

JORDAN HILL? you're kidding right? didn't you get enough of him the first time he was here? the Lakers have absolutely nothing that would interest the Rockets. they don't have any draft picks they can trade and they don't have any players worthy of a straight up trade for Asik.

[timetodienow1234567]

What about a three team trade of

 

 

Houston gets Deng

Chicago gets Lin

Third team gets Asik and gives draft picks to Chicago plus whatever salary to make it work. 

[rockets best fan]

What about a three team trade of

 

 

Houston gets Deng

Chicago gets Lin

Third team gets Asik and gives draft picks to Chicago plus whatever salary to make it work. 

interesting

[Dan G]

What about a three team trade of

 

 

Houston gets Deng

Chicago gets Lin

Third team gets Asik and gives draft picks to Chicago plus whatever salary to make it work. 

I wouldn't give up Lin and Asik to get Deng. We got Parsons for SF and Deng to me is not going to get any better and will only get worse as the years go by.

[areteejay789]

Im just not sure about trading Jeremy. He has fit so well with the second unit, and being able to take the play-making burden from harden to give him a break. My worry is that if Jeremy leaves, that means more Dwight touches in the post, because its really only jeremy, chandler, and harden who run the PNR... 

 

I would possibly be interested in trying to sign Deng at the end of the season, but I'm not sure Omer & Jeremy for Deng is really worth it....

[RollingWave]

Deng is on the last year of his contract, if your doing that sort of trade it means your lining up to sign someone else this summer by clearing the cap of Lin and Asik's contract while punting this year.

 

It would be a great NBA2k14 move , but a much more questionable real world one.

Edited by RollingWave, 27 November 2013 - 01:17 AM.

[rocketrick]

I wouldn't give up Lin and Asik to get Deng. We got Parsons for SF and Deng to me is not going to get any better and will only get worse as the years go by.

I concur with Dan.

Besides, the only reasons I can think of that the Rockets would do this trade is (1) they value Deng higher than Chandler Parsons and are willing to lose Parsons to free agency and pay Deng as his contract expires the end of this season, or
(2) Just to simply satisfy the Lin Detractors. I remember prior to the start of the season that some of the Lin Detractors on this site were more than willing to see Lin get traded for just a 2nd round draft pick!