Rejoice, Houston Rockets call off Omer Asik deal

I had been predicting that despite the deadline, there would be no Omer Asik deal.  The big guns (Marc Stein, Yahoo’s Adrian Wojnarowski) are now confirming that Houston has called off trade talks and intends to hang onto Omer Asik until at least the trade deadline.  I already explained this morning why it seemed out of character for Daryl Morey to take back the garbage platter being offered by the Boston Celtics.  Aside from what I already said, what was the rush?  The premise behind making a deal by the 19th was so that the new players acquired could be flipped again by the real deadline.  But Bass and Lee are, by most accounts, unflippable.  So unless you’re thrilled with Bass and Lee (and there’s no reason to be), there really wasn’t any reason to jump on this trade.  It’s better to just wait things out.

Now, there is the sentiment that whatever we would have gotten in return is better than an inactive Asik.  I disagree.  That argument would be based upon the premise that Asik will remain inactive.  I don’t think that will be the case.  While he’s no doubt upset, he’s not going to cling to this fake injury forever.  He’ll get his act together and suit up and go back to giving us 15 minutes of elite defense (and 48 minutes of rim protection).  That contribution is far better for this team than the impact Lee and Bass would have made, taking into account the financial consequences of adding Lee.

Will Asik’s value lower as the deadline approaches?  Sure, it probably will.  But its not exactly as if you’re missing out on some great prize in Bass and Lee.  If that’s the market value right now for Asik, I’d go as far as to say I’d rather just hang onto Omer until his contract expires a year and a half from now.

If there is one truth in the world, it is that Daryl Morey will not make a trade unless he is absolutely thrilled with it.  There is no “position of desperation.”  He just won’t deal if he doesn’t like it.

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Total comments: 55
  • Steven says 8 months ago

    espn says 4-6 weeks, but we'll see i guess.

    Depends on the break, how bad and how it's shaped. A straight break healthy faster then a "jagged" break.
  • Losthief says 8 months ago

    Lin could be coming back shortly and I think he and AB can hold down the fort just fine until Beverly returns. How long will it be? Seemed like Anthony Davis came back fairly quickly after fracturing his hand. Probably different bones, etc. Can Beverly return within 6 weeks? If so, the Rockets should be fine as long as Lin and AB can maintain their health. Canaan may be getting a shot to prove if he is NBA ready as I don't think the Rockets have any choice but to go ahead and bring him back to Houston.

    espn says 4-6 weeks, but we'll see i guess.

  • MrLobble says 8 months ago

    Lin could be coming back shortly and I think he and AB can hold down the fort just fine until Beverly returns. How long will it be? Seemed like Anthony Davis came back fairly quickly after fracturing his hand. Probably different bones, etc. Can Beverly return within 6 weeks? If so, the Rockets should be fine as long as Lin and AB can maintain their health. Canaan may be getting a shot to prove if he is NBA ready as I don't think the Rockets have any choice but to go ahead and bring him back to Houston.

    Brooks makes me cringe... :/

  • rocketrick says 8 months ago

    well, Brooke Lopez goes down for the season & we're now in desperate need of a point guard... (wondering if Morey is behind the scenes making calls right now--this Asik thing could be re-open, right)

    Lin could be coming back shortly and I think he and AB can hold down the fort just fine until Beverly returns. How long will it be? Seemed like Anthony Davis came back fairly quickly after fracturing his hand. Probably different bones, etc. Can Beverly return within 6 weeks? If so, the Rockets should be fine as long as Lin and AB can maintain their health. Canaan may be getting a shot to prove if he is NBA ready as I don't think the Rockets have any choice but to go ahead and bring him back to Houston.

  • MrLobble says 8 months ago

    well, Brooke Lopez goes down for the season & we're now in desperate need of a point guard... (wondering if Morey is behind the scenes making calls right now--this Asik thing could be re-open, right)

  • rocketrick says 8 months ago

    One of my favorite aspects of basketball is the psychology of it all; how talent and personalities combine on the court, how great coaches aren't strictlyX's and O's savants, but rather disciplinarians, motivators, or cheerleaders as the situation warrants. It's interesting (to me) that Yao Ming is wildly different from someone like Monta Ellis, yet they both have to be on a team, be coached, etc. It's interesting (to me) to see the effects that something like being mathematically eliminated from the playoffscan haveon a team. I enjoy watching those aspects of pro basketball. It struck me early on that coach McHale didn't seem equipped to manage certain types of personalities, and watching this Asik business has been fascinating to me. As a student of psychology, it's interesting to see how treating employees like commodities rather than people can affect certain personality types differently.

    When people say, "I did this so Asik should do this," that's not interesting to me. When people say, "He makes this amount of money, so he should do this," that's not interesting to me. If you know anything about psychology, you know that even rich people can be motivated to work harder or can become totally disaffected by their jobs. The fact that his paycheck is bigger than yours does not make him immune to human emotion.

    I've never said, "Let's all feel sorry for Omer." I don't feel sorry for him.

    But let's say you work at a bank, and your lifelong dream is to become a drive-thru teller. You bust your ass and then another bank offers you a contract to come be a drive-thru teller, and you accept it. You work your ass off every day - harder than anyone else at the bank - for a full year. You're literally among the best tellers in the world. Then the opportunity comes for the bank to hire a slightly better teller and they do so. They shift you to a late shift, emptying trash cans and cleaning the bathrooms. The manager you busted your ass for says, "Suck it up and be a man." You're still being paid to be a teller, but you're cleaning toilets.

    Now, as fans of the bank, you guys don't give a crap about the feelings of that teller and how that demotion might affect him. You just want the bank to do well. I get that. I just think there're more levels to it than we tend to acknowledge on forums such as these.

    I don't mean to sound condescending and unappreciative of your posts on our board. It's always good to get more points of view.

    However, your long winded response to me just sounds like an excuse for Omer Asik and his poor decision making on how heis handling the fact that the Rockets signed a better Center, perhaps the best Center in the game today.

    I have always been a results-oriented manager and hold myselfand my subordinatesto a higher standard in my work no matter the situation.

    Omer Asik can prove everyone wrong simply by committing to being the best player on the court, the best Center. Individuals who self-motivate themselves when facing obstacles often turn out to be the most successful individuals in society no matter if they are a bank teller or an NBA player. If Omer Asik wants to be the starting Center for the Rockets, he needs to take advantage of every single opportunity provided to him when on the court. During the D12-Asik pairing earlier this season, it was D12 that was asked to play out of position by moving over to the PF (4) spot, not Asik. Anyway, Asik can turn things around for himself by putting out the effort. That's not asking for much since it was the Rockets, no other professional basketball team, that afforded him the opportunity to make $25 million over 3 years. He should show his appreciation and dedication by putting an effort into being the best basketball player that he can and committing to team goals, not individual goals.

  • feelingsupersonic says 8 months ago Of course there are different levels and yes the psychology is interesting and obviously more to you since it is your area of study. I'm a sommelier and I would love to talk wine all night but most folks just want something good to drink. Personally I would be interested in the findings and final conclusion of a study on professional athletes but spare me on anything before that, know your audience. It's true in life there are no guarantees and some folks deal with that better and others just fall apart. Asik is a young guy and has a lot of life ahead of him so for his own sake hopefully he learns from his poor choices.
  • Lyfestyle says 8 months ago

    Lawrence Frank is completely different. I would need to see his contract before I took a stance on that.

    Life isn't fair. When life isn't fair and you still get paid $25M I just can't seem to find much sympathy.

    One of my favorite aspects of basketball is the psychology of it all; how talent and personalities combine on the court, how great coaches aren't strictlyX's and O's savants, but rather disciplinarians, motivators, or cheerleaders as the situation warrants. It's interesting (to me) that Yao Ming is wildly different from someone like Monta Ellis, yet they both have to be on a team, be coached, etc. It's interesting (to me) to see the effects that something like being mathematically eliminated from the playoffscan haveon a team. I enjoy watching those aspects of pro basketball. It struck me early on that coach McHale didn't seem equipped to manage certain types of personalities, and watching this Asik business has been fascinating to me. As a student of psychology, it's interesting to see how treating employees like commodities rather than people can affect certain personality types differently.

    When people say, "I did this so Asik should do this," that's not interesting to me. When people say, "He makes this amount of money, so he should do this," that's not interesting to me. If you know anything about psychology, you know that even rich people can be motivated to work harder or can become totally disaffected by their jobs. The fact that his paycheck is bigger than yours does not make him immune to human emotion.

    I've never said, "Let's all feel sorry for Omer." I don't feel sorry for him.

    But let's say you work at a bank, and your lifelong dream is to become a drive-thru teller. You bust your ass and then another bank offers you a contract to come be a drive-thru teller, and you accept it. You work your ass off every day - harder than anyone else at the bank - for a full year. You're literally among the best tellers in the world. Then the opportunity comes for the bank to hire a slightly better teller and they do so. They shift you to a late shift, emptying trash cans and cleaning the bathrooms. The manager you busted your ass for says, "Suck it up and be a man." You're still being paid to be a teller, but you're cleaning toilets.

    Now, as fans of the bank, you guys don't give a crap about the feelings of that teller and how that demotion might affect him. You just want the bank to do well. I get that. I just think there're more levels to it than we tend to acknowledge on forums such as these.

  • rocketrick says 8 months ago D12 was the only guy that came to play tonight against the Pacers. The Rockets should have just kept feeding him the ball but Harden seemed to prefer either shooting a 3 and missing or turning the ball over.

    Not too sure we want D12 shooting 15-18 foot jumpers, that goes against the Rockets system of 3's, buckets or free throws.

    Oh well, part of the growing pains the Rockets and their fans must suffer through!
  • timetodienow1234567 says 8 months ago

    Lol. Don't defend Omer. He's persona non grata on these forums. Let's just agree Omer needs to suck it up and play since the Rockets won't trade him. Let's move on. He should take a page out of Lin's book. The same thing happened to Lin a year earlier. Lin's improved on all of his weaknesses and is now a valued member of the rotation. Dwight needs to learn to improve his hand-eye coordination and improve his post game. He also needs to work on a 15-18 foot jumper as well as his free throws.

  • thejohnnygold says 8 months ago

    I doubt that source exists in any way that could be reproduced.

    Would you disagree with the premise that had Asik known Houston was going to sign Howard,Asikwould've been much less likely to sign theoffer sheet to play here?

    I'm not saying he's a "victim", per se, but I am saying that if I were in his situation, I'd also very strongly want to go to a situation where I could actually perform the work I signed up to do. He didn't sign that contract strictly to make a paycheck - we see similar situations play out all the time in sports: Lawrence Frank will likely sue to get out of his contract with the Nets because he's no longer able to coach in the way he assumed he would be when he signed the contract. Is he being wildly unprofessional? If this were Kobe Bryant being asked to play 10 minutes a game, would he accept it with a smile? Would we call him unprofessional?

    I don't really know how to respond to this. It's all hypothetical. Would Asik have signed? Maybe. He wanted out of Chicago. He wanted a chance to start. He wanted more money (presumably). Neither of us can answer that question.

    His job is to play basketball. As far as I know he does that every day in practice. I am quite certain that his contract does not read, "start at center for the houston rockets for the next three years". Lawrence Frank is completely different. I would need to see his contract before I took a stance on that. I don't care if Kobe smiles. I feel the same way about any basketball player. They are employees. It's a business. If you do not honor your contract then, yes, it is unprofessional. A basketball contract only guarantees that you get paid, not played, and it only guarantees that if you uphold your end of the bargain by doing what is asked of you. If you don't like those parameters you shouldn't sign it.

    Hasn't everyone at some point in their lives had to honor a commitment they didn't like or want to be a part of? Life isn't fair. When life isn't fair and you still get paid $25M I just can't seem to find much sympathy.

    Like I have said before, if Omer really wants to see the court more he should learn to shoot.

  • rocketrick says 8 months ago

    Steven, with all due respect, different kinds of folks have different personalities. It's been reported that Asik agreed to sign with Houston because they assured him he'd be the starter for the duration of the deal. It's not necessarily "unprofessional" to become upset when you feel you've been misled into signing a contract. These guys aren't robots.


    That sounds quite dubious, that the Rockets guaranteed (assured, whichever word you choose to use) Asik the starting position for all 3 years of his contract. So I assume that also meant no matter how well or how poorly he was performing during this time? I mean, c'mon, nobody gets guaranteed anything in the NBA in terms of playing time ever. They have to produce.

    Also, surely Asik and his agent knew of the Rockets multiple attempts to trade for D12 prior to Asik signing his contract and there were widespread reports all over the media that the Rockets were going to continue to pursue D12 until he made his final decision.

    Which makes the supposed guarantee of being a starter for all 3 years even that more dubious in my opinion.

    Now what Asik can do, is get on the floor and bust his butt. Perhaps he can show the Coaches how much he wants to get on the court by being ultra productive each and every chance he gets. This will also showcase Asik to the rest of the league and the Rockets can make one last (but probably less successful then than now in my opinion) attempt to trade Asik by the February 2014 trade deadline. It's just too bad Asik and his agent didn't discuss this situation better or possibly Asik just didn't listen or Tellem (and/or Asik's prior agent) didn't make it clear enough to Asik, you gotta have a good attitude about this and do the honorable thing and play through this situation to the best of your ability to help your case with other NBA GM's and Owners.
  • rockets best fan says 8 months ago

    @Lyfestyle

    WHY..........because we're asking the man to do his job? the Rockets didn't deceive Asik. when he was bought here he started. however you can't tell the GM to stop trying to improve the team. my problem with Asik is this.............none of those checks on the way to your bank account have decreased. I understand his dissatisfaction with how the situation turned out, but his actions should never drop below the professional level. he is getting paid quite handsomely. .........................takes me back to my younger days in the air force. I signed up for a 4 year commitment, but realized I didn't like it after one year. I didn't get all the glamor the recruiter promised me, but I still had to be professional and perform my job for the greater good. I'm sure no one was holding a gun to Asik's head when he picked up that pen to sign his contract and if I recall it was quite a nice raise from what he was making before, so I don't understand the whining. sometime a man has to suck it up and honor his commitments. the Rockets don't have him on a life time contract. he only has this year and next and he's free. he's in an environment where the people there what him and are doing everything they can to convince him to stay even though they are in no position where they have to beg. so he can't say he feels unwanted. I view is it's time for Asik to stop playing little boy games be a manand honor the contract he signed.

  • Sir Thursday says 8 months ago

    Does Dwight not know when to be quiet?

    Center Dwight Howard, who took Asik’s starting spot this season, hopes Asik comes back and helps the team win. Howard said he and Asik can be a good combination. But making that combo work is going to take some compromise. “Like we said at the beginning of the year, it is going to take a total team effort for us to win a championship,” Howard said. “I know he has had a rough time, but the only thing we can do as a team is continue to lift him up, continue to try to help him understand that he is a big part of the team. “I know he might not feel that way, but he is.” Houston Chronicle

    - See more at: http://hoopshype.com/rumors.htm#sthash.Ncl6FmyA.dpuf

    If his goal was to try and reintegrate Asik, why make this statement. He said the right things, but sometimes it's better to say nothing at all.

    You have to remember that it can be pretty difficult to stay quiet when you have 20 microphones shoved in your face and the same question asked several times. I know these guys have been in the media spotlight for a long time, but I can't imagine it's ever something you get used to.

    ST

  • feelingsupersonic says 8 months ago

    Ha, you guys seem like wonderful people.


    Actually I am generally well liked by most everyone who knows me. Now if I don't get emotionally envolved in professional sport athletes' personal lives and you think that makes me a less than wonderful person then so be it, that is your opinion of me. Just for the record the people I vest most of my emotional energy in are my wife, my son, my family and friends. I also spend some energy on this Forum because I believe in civil and intelligent discourse and I care about the standards here. There are fans and students of the game who understand metrics and game innovations much better but I do my part, we all do our part. Which takes me back to Asik, he clearly isn't doing his part in my opinion and that is different from yours but at the end of the day we are both Rockets fans right? That makes us both wonderful in my book Lifestyle.
  • Lyfestyle says 8 months ago

    I agree, I could care less about his feelings or desires.

    Ha, you guys seem like wonderful people.

  • feelingsupersonic says 8 months ago

    It is unprofessional when you refuse to play because your ego hurts. Either honor your contract or retire.


    I agree, I could care less about his feelings or desires.
  • Lyfestyle says 8 months ago

    It's fine that people want to sympathize for Omer and see him as a victim in this situation, but let's keep the hearsay out of this. If someone can link to an actual source then please do--I haven't found one.

    I doubt that source exists in any way that could be reproduced.

    Would you disagree with the premise that had Asik known Houston was going to sign Howard,Asikwould've been much less likely to sign theoffer sheet to play here?

    I'm not saying he's a "victim", per se, but I am saying that if I were in his situation, I'd also very strongly want to go to a situation where I could actually perform the work I signed up to do. He didn't sign that contract strictly to make a paycheck - we see similar situations play out all the time in sports: Lawrence Frank will likely sue to get out of his contract with the Nets because he's no longer able to coach in the way he assumed he would be when he signed the contract. Is he being wildly unprofessional? If this were Kobe Bryant being asked to play 10 minutes a game, would he accept it with a smile? Would we call him unprofessional?

  • thejohnnygold says 8 months ago

    I don't mean to be a stickler about this, but the repeated inferences that Asik was promised a permanent starting spot in Houston just don't hold any water to me.

    I can only find one "source" for this and it is hearsay. The reporter doesn't even cite a source. Rather, he flippantly uses the "word on the street"-style source and then proceeds as if it is actually true. Since when is this ok? Here's the link (It's near the end of the article). If people want to believe Omer was lied to then go ahead, but I am very dubious.

    Here is the actual quote:

    "The Rockets have known for quite some time that Asik wants out. Word is he was told the club would sign no center ahead of him when he agreed to join Houston as a free agent in 2012. When Dwight Howard was lured this past summer, Asik reminded them of his and quietly asked to be moved."

    Now, assuming that the hearsay above is true it still does not connote a promise to be the starter for the length of his contract. At best, it meant they were not going to extend any other offers to any other centers that off-season--which was true. Also, this reporter ignores the fact that Asik was a restricted free agent. He only chose to sign the offer sheet--he had no guarantee of even getting on a plane to fly to Houston let alone ever donning a jersey.

    It's fine that people want to sympathize for Omer and see him as a victim in this situation, but let's keep the hearsay out of this. If someone can link to an actual source then please do--I haven't found one.

  • Steven says 8 months ago

    Steven, with all due respect, different kinds of folks have different personalities. It's been reported that Asik agreed to sign with Houston because they assured him he'd be the starter for the duration of the deal. It's not necessarily "unprofessional" to become upset when you feel you've been misled into signing a contract. These guys aren't robots.

    It is unprofessional when you refuse to play because your ego hurts. Either honor your contract or retire.
  • Lyfestyle says 8 months ago

    Who cares what the unprofessional Asik thinks? Seriously, he is lucky to not have been taken behind the woodshed. Sometimes tough love is what is required. If Asik isn't man enough to take it, so be it. Ship him to Wisconsin or the winter.

    Steven, with all due respect, different kinds of folks have different personalities. It's been reported that Asik agreed to sign with Houston because they assured him he'd be the starter for the duration of the deal. It's not necessarily "unprofessional" to become upset when you feel you've been misled into signing a contract. These guys aren't robots.

  • Steven says 8 months ago

    Nothing Dwight said was bad, but there are times when you shouldn't say anything at all. Do you think Omer wanted to hear Dwight say "he has to be willing to make a sacrifice." While it's true, Dwight, who took Omers job, shouldn't say that. I'm not vilifying Dwight, just saying he should have kept his mouth shut if he truly wanted to mend fences with Asik.

    Who cares what the unprofessional Asik thinks? Seriously, he is lucky to not have been taken behind the woodshed. Sometimes tough love is what is required. If Asik isn't man enough to take it, so be it. Ship him to Wisconsin or the winter.
  • rocketrick says 8 months ago It would be awesome if Asik would make some positive comments in the press about going forward, but I might just have too high expectations. I know from Rahat's experiences with Omer, that he isn't the most outgoing guy to begin with. Still, it sure would do everyone a lot of good to hear some positive words from Asik now that he is still a Rocket.
  • 2016Champions says 8 months ago For whatever it's worth Asik looked very happy on the bench 2 nights ago, he was smiling and getting along well with everyone.
  • rocketrick says 8 months ago And keep in mind this is a situation that Asik created by insisting numerous times on a trade. It's not like the Rockets players can ignore the unfortunate situation and not say anything about it and act like nothing is wrong, all is cool, etc.

    That's why I asked earlier what other fans would have wanted D12 (and the rest of the Rockets) to say about this situation. The Chronicle sportswriter sticks her microphone out and asks the questions and I think a "no comment" would have served no purpose. I doubt any of the Rockets players were super enthusiastic about having to answer those type of questions anyway. Just comes with the territory. I think they handled things as well as could be expected.

    However, if any other fans on this board would like to add what else D12 or any of the Rockets players and coaches should have said, I am definitely open to hearing those suggestions/comments.

    What are the magic words that makes everything OK and get's Asik motivated to kick some butt? That's what I want to hear!
  • timetodienow1234567 says 8 months ago Lol. Okay.
  • feelingsupersonic says 8 months ago Dwight said the best and most honest things he could have said. I say Houston Dwight is growing up and sounds like a leader.

    Pretty funny that with some fans there is just no pleasing them.
  • 2016Champions says 8 months ago I don't know what Omer thinks, but I'm happy to see that his team mates are still so welcoming of him despite everything. It's not just Dwight, the whole team has been surprisingly supportive.
  • timetodienow1234567 says 8 months ago Nothing Dwight said was bad, but there are times when you shouldn't say anything at all. Do you think Omer wanted to hear Dwight say "he has to be willing to make a sacrifice." While it's true, Dwight, who took Omers job, shouldn't say that. I'm not vilifying Dwight, just saying he should have kept his mouth shut if he truly wanted to mend fences with Asik.
  • 2016Champions says 8 months ago I've seen Dwight say some bad things, but what he said about Asik being an important part of the team is not one of them. I think this is just a case of expecting Dwight to b slip up and looking for that slip up in places where it doesn't exist. 99.9% of the things he has said have been positive, and I'm sure we can twist half the things he has to say into something negative but I've never understood why people do that. Personally I try to see the good in people.
  • rocketrick says 8 months ago

    There was no point in Dwight stating this. Smh


    Let's see what everyone else thinks on the board. What would you have wanted D12 to say? Harden and Parsons? Coach McHale has several quotes as well in that and a follow up article published on line at Chronicle.com
  • timetodienow1234567 says 8 months ago There was no point in Dwight stating this. Smh
  • rocketrick says 8 months ago It's good that everyone got this off their chest, let's move forward and make the best of it!
  • rocketrick says 8 months ago

    Does Dwight not know when to be quiet?

    Center Dwight Howard, who took Asik’s starting spot this season, hopes Asik comes back and helps the team win. Howard said he and Asik can be a good combination. But making that combo work is going to take some compromise. “Like we said at the beginning of the year, it is going to take a total team effort for us to win a championship,” Howard said. “I know he has had a rough time, but the only thing we can do as a team is continue to lift him up, continue to try to help him understand that he is a big part of the team. “I know he might not feel that way, but he is.” Houston Chronicle

    - See more at: http://hoopshype.com/rumors.htm#sthash.Ncl6FmyA.dpuf

    Here is the rest of D12's statement as quoted in the Houston Chronicle:

    "We need him to get healthy. We want him to play. It's not like we don't want him here. We understand all the things he has had to deal with -- being the starter last year, me coming and being the starter. That can be tough, but we all have to make sacrifices to win and he has to be willing to make a sacrifice. We are here for him, and we will do whatever it takes."

    James Harden was quoted in the same article:
    "He's great for our team. He's one of the best big men in the NBA, defensively as well. He complements our team so well. We're fortunate to have him on our team. Hopefully, he comes back and makes an impact, because we're going to go far with him, especially on that second unit. I know he doesn't really like that role, but in order for us to go far, he is going to have to embrace it."

    Chandler Parsons was quoted in the same article:
    "We don't think about that (Asik trade talks) when the ball goes up in games, but it has definitely been a cloud over our team's head. We just want to have a final roster, and we want to go forward and get better with the guys we have. If Omer is here, that is great, and let's get to work and start playing together."

    It's good that everyone got this off their chest, let's move forward and make the best of it!

  • timetodienow1234567 says 8 months ago Does Dwight not know when to be quiet?

    Center Dwight Howard, who took Asik’s starting spot this season, hopes Asik comes back and helps the team win. Howard said he and Asik can be a good combination. But making that combo work is going to take some compromise. “Like we said at the beginning of the year, it is going to take a total team effort for us to win a championship,” Howard said. “I know he has had a rough time, but the only thing we can do as a team is continue to lift him up, continue to try to help him understand that he is a big part of the team. “I know he might not feel that way, but he is.” Houston Chronicle

    - See more at: http://hoopshype.com/rumors.htm#sthash.Ncl6FmyA.dpuf

    If his goal was to try and reintegrate Asik, why make this statement. He said the right things, but sometimes it's better to say nothing at all.
  • Lyfestyle says 8 months ago

    Rockets need to trade Asik ASAP. Only way another team gets their money's worth on his back-loaded contract. Hope Boston comes around and gives into the Rockets reported request of Green instead of Bass. Courtney lee is perfect for the Rockets scheme of PG bringing the ball past mid-court (set screen after the inbound if need be), pass to Harden, set up for spot up shot ( currently shooting about 49% from 3's)....NBA.com has his shot chart....nice and balanced around the horn and mid-range. His DRtg is like 104; but 95 on the road!! Just get him out of Boston. Bass is better than his days with D12 back then though. Bass has a better shot chart (mid-range)better fit than what Asik gives us......with Asik 100% of nothing gives you nothing. Asik's shot chart is anemic. 19 mins and only 2 rebounds vs 76ers was enough for me. His bad unprofessional attitude sours the club like poison. Clearly he just wants to put up numbers in hopes of getting a big payday after the conclusion of next season. He knows 20 mins as a backup or playing next to D12 won't achieve his goal. Asik wants money over wins.....then so be it. To each their own. Thad (76ers) is demanding a trade. Lets get something Morey. I know you like those 1st rounders; but we can contend this year......lets not let Asik put a stick in the spokes.

    I don't disagree with the gist of your post, but it would appear Morey didn't receive any remotely-acceptable offers. I was always skeptical of the reports of interest by the Sixers; they're trying to get worse, not better; they don't have much of an incentive to trade for Asik.

    As for Boston, Bass is a nice player, but he's not a dramatic upgrade over T-Jones, and Courtney Lee's contract is horrendous, relative to what we understand of Morey's priorities.

    As disappointing as it is, I kinda feel like it's the right move to hold off until something (more) appealingmaterializes. I don't think Bass/Lee would've moved the needle much for this team, and there's always the possibility of a Howard injury that would instantly make Asik ultra-valuable to us.

  • rockets best fan says 8 months ago

    sometimes the trade that wasn't made is the best trade. remember Robert Horry in the 93-94 season? that year the Rockets had completed adeal to acquire Sean Elliot, but he failed his physical voiding the trade. Horry returned to the Rockets and the rest is history. I don't know if Asik will still be here past the trade deadline, but the offers that were on the table clearly were of the poo poo platter variety. I have said it before and Morey has been consistent in it .............Morey will not be pressured into bad deals. he has proven to me that this is part of who he is. I didn't believe Asik would be traded before the 19th for one reason. if we traded Asik before then we would have left the door open for the team we traded Asik to that same window of trading him before the deadline. that could possibly backfire for us if said team traded him to one of our rivals. it's more important to be sure Asik doesn't fall into the wrong hands than meeting some deadline.

  • Steven says 8 months ago

    Rockets need to trade Asik ASAP. Only way another team gets their money's worth on his back-loaded contract. Hope Boston comes around and gives into the Rockets reported request of Green instead of Bass. Courtney lee is perfect for the Rockets scheme of PG bringing the ball past mid-court (set screen after the inbound if need be), pass to Harden, set up for spot up shot ( currently shooting about 49% from 3's)....NBA.com has his shot chart....nice and balanced around the horn and mid-range. His DRtg is like 104; but 95 on the road!! Just get him out of Boston. Bass is better than his days with D12 back then though. Bass has a better shot chart (mid-range)better fit than what Asik gives us......with Asik 100% of nothing gives you nothing. Asik's shot chart is anemic. 19 mins and only 2 rebounds vs 76ers was enough for me. His bad unprofessional attitude sours the club like poison. Clearly he just wants to put up numbers in hopes of getting a big payday after the conclusion of next season. He knows 20 mins as a backup or playing next to D12 won't achieve his goal. Asik wants money over wins.....then so be it. To each their own. Thad (76ers) is demanding a trade. Lets get something Morey. I know you like those 1st rounders; but we can contend this year......lets not let Asik put a stick in the spokes.

    Agreed. The sooner the mopped one is gone the sooner the locker room can gel.
  • Jatman20 says 8 months ago Rockets need to trade Asik ASAP. Only way another team gets their money's worth on his back-loaded contract. Hope Boston comes around and gives into the Rockets reported request of Green instead of Bass. Courtney lee is perfect for the Rockets scheme of PG bringing the ball past mid-court (set screen after the inbound if need be), pass to Harden, set up for spot up shot ( currently shooting about 49% from 3's)....NBA.com has his shot chart....nice and balanced around the horn and mid-range. His DRtg is like 104; but 95 on the road!! Just get him out of Boston. Bass is better than his days with D12 back then though. Bass has a better shot chart (mid-range)better fit than what Asik gives us......with Asik 100% of nothing gives you nothing. Asik's shot chart is anemic. 19 mins and only 2 rebounds vs 76ers was enough for me. His bad unprofessional attitude sours the club like poison. Clearly he just wants to put up numbers in hopes of getting a big payday after the conclusion of next season. He knows 20 mins as a backup or playing next to D12 won't achieve his goal. Asik wants money over wins.....then so be it. To each their own. Thad (76ers) is demanding a trade. Lets get something Morey. I know you like those 1st rounders; but we can contend this year......lets not let Asik put a stick in the spokes.
  • RollingWave says 8 months ago

    Good call there Rahat

  • Jeby says 8 months ago

    Asik needs to count his money, make sure it's all there, and then get his butt on the court (as soon as his thigh gets better). If he was being paid by the minute, I could understand his attitude, but he isn't. He has a chance to be a contributor to a championship team. Many players would give up their starting spot on a bad team for that opportunity.

  • rocketrick says 8 months ago

    Hopefully Arn Tellum can use his agency skills to convince another NBA GM and Owner that they should give the Rockets dollar for dollar back for the opportunity to have Asik on their team. Then report back to Morey that a deal can be made.

    I'm just not that optimistic Arn Tellum is that good and can make a positive difference.

    I hope to be proven wrong!

  • RudyT1995 says 8 months ago

    Agree that standing pat is the right move. But is it just delaying the inevitable? Will Arn Tellem make a difference?

  • Lyfestyle says 8 months ago

    Absolutely the right move.

    Poor Kobe. Looks like I may have to hang out here until the end of the decade.

    Brutal. Will be interesting to see how LAL and Chi respond over the next couple of years.

  • SadLakerFan says 8 months ago Absolutely the right move.

    Poor Kobe. Looks like I may have to hang out here until the end of the decade.
  • CanSayNOTC says 8 months ago

    That cloud of doom better dissipate soon. He must be a team player even if he doesn't care for the team. He needs to do it for himself. Some of the damage caused by his behavior is irreparable and done with. there is enough value to recoup, trust to regain, and reputation to repair, and with the season still ahead, enough time to do it. Morey has shown he won't trade just because Asik forced his hand, so Asik better start producing!

  • rocketrick says 8 months ago

    If Asik stays (for now), what is the likelihood of the dark cloud hanging over this team and the locker room lifting?

    I'm not as optimistic as some in this forum that Asik will be an effective bench player for us until a more palatable trade offer is presented to Morey and the Rockets.

    For sure, his value is going to continue to diminish as the specter of paying Asik $15 million next season looms larger and larger while the benefit of paying Asik just the (portion of the) $5.3 million due him for this season diminishes the longer he remains here.

    As horrible as the trade offer from Boston as being reported (exceptno one has stated exactly which 1st round pick and how protected the Celtics would make it) sounds, is it realistic to expect better trade offers by the February trade deadline when more than 60-65% of this season is already in the books?

    Is it realistic just to force Asik to remain a Rocket through the end of next season? How much darker will that cloud loom over this franchise and the locker room in the meantime? This has serious implications in my opinion.

    Just a terrible situation to be in no matter what the Rockets decide to do going forward unless a savior shows up at the last minute and makes all of this go away.

  • Alituro says 8 months ago

    hooray! Thank god we didn't pick up the Celts garbage, even if a deal is imminent soon, that was not the right one.

  • Cooper says 8 months ago Hope fully it works out and asik can come back. Because unless there is an unforeseen injury for a contender as previously mentioned, I can't imagine the offers would improve.
  • Chichos says 8 months ago

    As tomorrow is the real trade deadline for repackaged players nothing is over. But Morey did get some good information on what people were willing to give up for Asik. As crappy as it sounds we can hope for an injury to a big on a contender and maybe then the market opens up some more.

  • thejohnnygold says 8 months ago

    I think this is just a reprieve. Other teams have started calling about Asik. The Knicks are among those teams. A bigger deal might be in the works. If Morey were willing to accept Bass/Lee, other teams have more to offer.

    Link?

  • NorEastern says 8 months ago

    Doing this is in the best interests of the Rockets. They have quite enough talent to compete for a top four seed in the WC even without Asik. And I do believe that Asik will come around and play. The Rockets would not have won the SAS game without him.

  • Buckko says 8 months ago

    Buckko is happy.

  • Drew in Abilene says 8 months ago

    This is the best news I've heard all day. The dream of elite rim protection for 48 minutes per game lives on, as well as the hope of sporadic but effective use of the twin towers line-up when match-ups dictate. Even if this is only a two month reprieve, I'm glad to see Morey not take on the contracts of Bass and Lee.

  • rm90025 says 8 months ago

    I think this is just a reprieve. Other teams have started calling about Asik. The Knicks are among those teams. A bigger deal might be in the works. If Morey were willing to accept Bass/Lee, other teams have more to offer.