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@  majik19 : (25 October 2015 - 08:26 PM) also read the Zach Lowe article - he's definitely drinking the kool-aid, and for good reason! I don't know if we're the biggest regular season threat (howard's health), but I think we are in the playoffs.
@  majik19 : (25 October 2015 - 08:25 PM) Sad about Saunders... seems sudden, though I knew he had fought on and off with cancer.
@  jorgeaam : (25 October 2015 - 06:41 PM) RIP Flip Saunders, sad day for basketball
@  YaoMan : (23 October 2015 - 04:49 PM) Zach Lowe seems to think the Rox are the biggest threat to GSW: http://grantland.com...-16-nba-season/
@  cointurtlemoose : (23 October 2015 - 04:36 PM) Hey if yall want a good podcast to listen to, find the Dunc'd On Basketball Podcast on Itunes, Rahat just did a Rockets preview with the host.
@  majik19 : (13 October 2015 - 09:09 PM) Apparently we claimed Arsalan Kazemi off waivers from the Hawks today... yet another undersized (6'7") power forward for Morey's cupboard.
@  Mario Peña : (10 October 2015 - 01:12 PM) If your part if the Red94 Fantasy Basketball League check the thread to vote for the date and time for the draft event. Thanks y'all!
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@  slick shoes : (07 October 2015 - 06:50 PM) Kobe ranked one spot higher than Ariza? Is this based on legacy or...??
@  slick shoes : (07 October 2015 - 04:13 PM) It was hard to keep up with both the Astros and Rockets at the same time. Should be interesting on Thursday with the Texans and Astros on simultaneously.
@  Mario Peña : (07 October 2015 - 04:09 PM) It was fun to have the Rockets on last night! Right now I'm watching the Celtics versus Milan and Alessandro Gentile is impressive.
@  jorgeaam : (06 October 2015 - 07:47 PM) Well, thinking twice about it, I'd rather have him score less and have the team as a whole do better. Lawson should take a lot of his load off
@  jorgeaam : (06 October 2015 - 07:47 PM) Loving that, hope he hits 30 PPG this year
@  thejohnnygold : (06 October 2015 - 06:15 PM) Someone is feeling confident :) : LINK
@  jorgeaam : (06 October 2015 - 05:54 PM) 10 Teams done, will need 2 more
@  Mario Peña : (06 October 2015 - 02:35 PM) Alright guys, if anyone is interested in joining the Red94 fantasy basketball league we could use one more player to get us to 10 teams (or three to get us to 12 teams). Just check the thread in the Fantasy Basketball forum. Thanks!
@  thejohnnygold : (05 October 2015 - 06:23 PM) I use leaguepass here in Austin with no problems...
@  skip 2 my lou : (05 October 2015 - 03:14 PM) Hey fellas, I'm a rocket fan but I live in the heart of Dallas. Does anybody know if I buy NBA Leaguepass if it's too close to be subject to blackouts?
@  Losthief : (02 October 2015 - 02:24 AM) tks jg
@  thejohnnygold : (29 September 2015 - 05:16 AM) FYI, it was media day today. Interviews are up at NBA.com

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Roundtable: Should the Houston Rockets sign Josh Smith?


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#1 Red94

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    Posted 23 December 2014 - 11:07 PM

    New post: Roundtable: Should the Houston Rockets sign Josh Smith?
    By: Rahat Huq

    Yahoo Sports reported Monday afternoon that the Houston Rockets had emerged as the frontrunner to land forward Josh Smith after the former Piston clears waivers on Wednesday.  We got together and talked about the news.

     

    McGuire: We all know how the Rockets are supposedly this “3 and paint” team, but are we really that confident in our shooting to want Smith? There’s no one on this team aside from Beverley that I really, truly trust to make 3-pointers when Harden is driving to the rim. Not Ariza these days, not Brewer (though he hit 2 Monday night against Portland to my surprise), not Motiejunas. And on top of it, Houston is actually not a very good offensive team this year - just 20th as ranked by offensive rating. Yet we’re talking about signing someone who is arguably the worst 3-point shooter in NBA history and who has never had a positive impact on the offensive end.

     

     

    Dover: The story with Smith has been the same for years - great if he’s playing around the rim, awful outside. If the Rockets are serious about him, then it can only be because they want him in the paint. Motiejunas takes some threes but it’s not a key part of our offense from the 4 spot, so I don’t see why we couldn’t attempt to slot Smith into a similar role in our system and avoid the question of whether he can knock down the three completely. The problem is that after 9 and a bit seasons in the league, his bad habits are thoroughly ingrained and will be hard to change. For me the important question is: Is the culture of the Rockets’ locker room and their commitment to this style of play enough to break down the mental blocks Smith has from a career’s worth of taking shots he shouldn’t? Because one thing’s for sure - we definitely don’t want the version of Josh Smith that repeatedly puts up threes and long twos with no remorse.

     

    Li: I agree with Paul, especially regarding the 3-point shooting. Despite taking the most 3s per game (35, no one else is even above 30), the Rockets still don’t shoot 3s very well (below 35%). Parsons, who was statistically our best 3-point shooter, is gone. Troy Daniels apparently was only good enough to hit game-winning 3-pointers in the playoffs, but not good enough to come off the bench during the regular season. Harden’s 3-point shooting has regressed for the second season in a row (33%). Adding Josh Smith does not solve these problems, and has the strong potential to exacerbate them. The best case scenario is that he stops taking any shot farther than 8-feet away, plays defense, rebounds, and does athletic things in general. Doesn’t that kind of sound like the best case scenario for Terrence Jones?

     

    McGuire: While Richard elaborates on the 3-point shooting, Josh Smith mixed with WWE commentator Jim Ross:

     

     (editor’s note: language warning?)

     

    I did watch this game live, and that play is possibly one of the few times I have broken out laughing at a NBA game.

     

    I also want to touch on the Howard-Smith relationship which ESPN has touched upon. This makes me more apprehensive about signing Smith, not less. If we sign Smith, and he plays like well, Josh Smith, is Howard going to be fine with his friend getting benched in favor of Motiejunas? We all get irrational about how our friends are doing, after all.

     

    Huq: Well I for one am absolutely stoked about the Josh Smith Reclamation Experience.  We will change him.  We will rebuild him.  We will eliminate the long 2’s and even the 3’s and unlock his basketball destiny.

     

    Okay, maybe not.  But seriously guys.  What’s the risk?  It’s a measly $2million.  And if he’s only playing twenty minutes a night, we can live with a couple of errant jumpers here and there, if he’s bringing it on the other end, which I think he will.  I’m all for anything that keeps Joey Dorsey off the floor, and for all his warts, Josh Smith is a massive upgrade over Tarik Black as well.  Hell, I’ll say this: if we have Smith last year, LaMarcus Aldridge doesn’t walk all over this team and we probably travel to San Antonio the following week for the second round.  I’m a firm believer in “fit” and I don’t think Smith is nearly as bad as he’s looked in Detroit these past two years.  He can still be as good as he was in Atlanta when some metrics ranked him near the top of the league defensively.

     

    On the other hand, Paul’s suggestion is troubling and something I hadn’t thought of.  Moreover, I’ll be absolutely pissed if McHale benches Motiejunas for Smith.

     

    All in all, I’m all for this.  You can’t have enough able-bodied ‘bigs’ in the postseason and if Smith can still bring it defensively, I think you can live with his bone-headedness at the other end.


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    Posted 23 December 2014 - 11:56 PM

    I believe you when you say that the Rockets can "change" him. He is a good player at his natural PF position and the Rockets can absolutely use another Big in the Lineup! He plays well on both sides of the floor, I just hope that he can play at an Elite Level in Houston. #RedNation #Rockets


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      Posted 24 December 2014 - 01:01 AM

      D-Mo won't be "benched" for Smith. At worst he will be the first big man off to the bench, the offense for the second unit getting 30 minutes a night. Howard Smith and D-Mo can all play 32 minutes a night as long as two of the three are on the court at all times. D-Mo is skilled enough to play both the 4 and the 5 so he can pair up with either Smith or Howard. The person who would lose all minutes with the signing of Smith would be Papanikoloa.

      C - Howard / D-Mo / Black (garbage/foul trouble)
      PF - Smith / D-Mo / Papanikoloa
      SF - Ariza / Brewer / Papanikoloa
      SG - Harden / Brewer / Terry
      PG - Beverly / Terry / Shved / Canaan (garbage time)

      I think Jones' nerve problems scare them as well.
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        Posted 24 December 2014 - 01:09 AM

        Better versions of Black and Dorsey in the sense of points produced and poor FT shooter, if playing the 4. D-Mo will play the C and PF and getting his 25 minutes; as we rotate between the 3 players of D12/D-Mo/Josh......Josh will sit in the corners where his 3 point shooting is higher(small sample-size this year; but for career reflects the same). It's the defense vs Western Conference PF's that is starter material. D-Mo hasn't proven to me that he can defend or score well vs the Western elite. D-Mo towers over a 6'8" Faried and ZBo and can body up with Duncan and Marc Gasol.....but I don't like the guys that can draw him away from the basket like: Blake G, David Lee, Ibaka, Anthony Davis(was too much for D-Mo; but who does well vs Davis these days) vs D-Mo. Josh has been chasing SF's for two years now.....he will welcome playing PF's with D12 protecting his backside. Josh will help D12 in blocking shots; I have never been a Josh fan, but I give him credit for being a shot-blocker over the years. I will give the controls of Josh Smith to D12/McHale/Brewer/JET/Ariza/ and most important Harden.....Josh will see/and treat this group (& other coaches & players)with some respect that he did not have in Detroit. The Drummond/Monroe/Smith experiment failed; but don't let that fool you into thinking D12-D-Mo-Josh rotation with outside shooting threats will (fail).

        With Josh in the fold, Dragic deal is still in play.....unfortunately a Terrence Jones,Shved, Beverley Papanikolaou may be in play. The next few months to see how Shved and Terrence and Josh play may determine that. Would be great to get a Dragic and Gerald Green back in return. No Josh or acquisition of an experienced PF may not give the Rockets the confidence to trade a Terrence Jones or D-Mo. D-Mo currently averages 27.5 minutes per game.

        Edited by Jatman20, 24 December 2014 - 01:17 AM.

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          Posted 24 December 2014 - 03:54 AM

          Agreed, Steven, I think if Morey goes for Smith, it's an indicator that Jones' situation is a no-go. That could be one reason why I'm not too excited about the Smith situation, because it would indicate Jones' time in Houston is likely done, and I really wanted Jones to take another leap - and I thought he really would.

           

          Anyways, I just worry about a Dwight-Smith frontcourt making things a bit 'cloggy' in the lane. Defensively, I'm honestly happy with the strides we've made, and I just don't like the idea of messing with our slash-kick capabilities for the sake of adding another good defender into an already pretty good defensive lineup.


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            Posted 24 December 2014 - 09:08 AM

            Just how the main value to the roster with Chandler Parsons was his cheap contract i feel that this will be the same with Smith. Now we can chase a star as well. Who cares about a big 3 when we have a big 3.5!?
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              Posted 24 December 2014 - 03:37 PM

              Agreed, Steven, I think if Morey goes for Smith, it's an indicator that Jones' situation is a no-go. That could be one reason why I'm not too excited about the Smith situation, because it would indicate Jones' time in Houston is likely done, and I really wanted Jones to take another leap - and I thought he really would.

              I don't know if I agree there necessarily.  It could just mean he's now expendable.


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                Posted 24 December 2014 - 04:25 PM

                New post: Stein: Rockets assuring Josh Smith starting spot
                By: Rahat Huq

                 

                As I remarked in our roundtable from yesterday, this was what I feared.  But unlike my colleagues, I am all for Smith, and it seems Rockets management is too.  They're desperate to get the extra frontcourt help.

                 

                A reader noted that Smith might be best suited for the starting lineup because with the starters, Harden is the clear cut leader.  Off the bench, Smith might have had free rein to do the dumb things he has been known to do.

                 

                I'm looking at this from a positive perspective.  I'm not happy about Motiejunas losing his hope, but you have to make whatever assurances you can if it means solidifying a weakness.  To that end, Houston's course is rational.

                 


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                #9 Mario Peña

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                Posted 24 December 2014 - 04:39 PM

                Come on now Rahat, a reader? I've been a forum moderator a relatively long time.
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                  Posted 24 December 2014 - 04:50 PM

                  Come on now Rahat, a reader? I've been a forum moderator a relatively long time.

                  The lawyer sees all of us as the same lesserings. He doesn't have time to determine if you are in one lesser category or the other.
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                    Posted 24 December 2014 - 04:59 PM

                    A front court of D-Mo, Smith and Howard would be as formidable as any in the NBA. If Smith works out. I actually like the pairing of D-Mo and Smith a lot. D-Mo can easily play outside and when D-Mo is in the post Smith would play weak side and dare the opponents to double off of him. I, like Morey obviously, love the idea of three very good to excellent defenders available at the P/C positions. The Rocket's already stingy defense would probably improve significantly.

                     

                    The Smith/Howard combination actually frightens me a bit. With the D-Mo/Howard pairing D-Mo just naturally migrates to the weak side corner three position. I personally would not like to see Smith camping out there to much.

                     

                    I don't worry about locker room issues. The Detroit situation was obviously poisonous. Smith will be asked to contribute in very limited ways and all NBA players seriously respect McHale as a coach. The veteran leadership trio of Harden, Howard and Terry is not liable to accept poor play or a bad attitude from Smith. And being released by a second team in one season would torpedo any hope Smith has for a longer term contract above the mid-level exception.

                     

                    It will be easy for the coaching staff to tell Smith exactly what he needs to do to help get everyone a ring. Defend, block shots, rebound and take shots around the rim. And Smith might have the opportunity to take a one or two wide open corner threes a game. I would not begrudge him those shots, and if Smith can start hitting those threes at a league average rate it would improve the Rockets offense tremendously.

                     

                    This is certainly the most entertaining Rocket's season in a long long time.


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                    Posted 24 December 2014 - 05:17 PM

                    The lawyer sees all of us as the same lesserings. He doesn't have time to determine if you are in one lesser category or the other.

                     

                    You know the drill--we're all just role players.  He won't even eat lunch with us  :(


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                    #13 Mario Peña

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                    Posted 24 December 2014 - 05:44 PM

                    The lawyer sees all of us as the same lesserings. He doesn't have time to determine if you are in one lesser category or the other.

                     

                     

                    Actually I think he mostly differentiates between the twitter followers and the blog readers.

                     

                    I was the kind to get smart and mouth off in my youth and so now as I am firmly entrenched in adulthood I'm kind of cranky. Ha!


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                      Posted 24 December 2014 - 05:49 PM

                      Actually I think he mostly differentiates between the twitter followers and the blog readers.

                       

                      I was the kind to get smart and mouth off in my youth and so now as I am firmly entrenched in adulthood I'm kind of cranky. Ha!

                      Yeah, crankiness happens. I think it has something to do with old age. The older I get the crankier I become.


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                        Posted 25 December 2014 - 03:01 AM

                        Curious move by Rockets bringing back Capela from the D-league today. Hope it means keeping T Black while dealing others to make room for Josh.
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                          Posted 25 December 2014 - 11:46 PM

                          Looked on a Suns beat writer site today (12/25/14). They claim Tolliver ($3 mil) traded for Pistons Mitchell ($8 hundred thousand and change); so they can cut him....leaving them with 14 players on their roster. Timing? Coincidence? Something is brewing.
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                            Posted 26 December 2014 - 01:21 AM

                            So, Mr. Rahat, where are fan posts these days? I have a lot to say about the current Rockets and the addition of Smith. And the Western conference in general.


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                            #18 Red94

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                              Posted 26 December 2014 - 01:54 AM

                              You guys are killing me right now.  lol.   :D

                               

                              NorEastern: Always open for that.  


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                              #19 Steven

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                                Posted 26 December 2014 - 01:55 AM

                                You guys are killing me right now. lol. :D

                                NorEastern: Always open for that.


                                Aww naw we'd never do that. ;) Wouldn't want the lawyer to get his feelings hurt.
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                                  Posted 26 December 2014 - 02:02 AM

                                  Aww naw we'd never do that. ;) Wouldn't want the lawyer to get his feelings hurt.

                                  Hold on! Wait! I am not a lawyer. I am the guy with a degree in math and the PhD in CS. I do not and never will aspire to he intellectual heights of a doctor of jurisprudence. LOL.


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