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@  YaoMan : (23 October 2015 - 04:49 PM) Zach Lowe seems to think the Rox are the biggest threat to GSW: http://grantland.com...-16-nba-season/
@  cointurtlemoose : (23 October 2015 - 04:36 PM) Hey if yall want a good podcast to listen to, find the Dunc'd On Basketball Podcast on Itunes, Rahat just did a Rockets preview with the host.
@  majik19 : (13 October 2015 - 09:09 PM) Apparently we claimed Arsalan Kazemi off waivers from the Hawks today... yet another undersized (6'7") power forward for Morey's cupboard.
@  Mario Peña : (10 October 2015 - 01:12 PM) If your part if the Red94 Fantasy Basketball League check the thread to vote for the date and time for the draft event. Thanks y'all!
@  jorgeaam : (07 October 2015 - 08:47 PM) Guys we need 1 more owner for the Red94 fantasy league, if interested please comment on the post in the fantasy basketball thread
@  slick shoes : (07 October 2015 - 06:50 PM) Kobe ranked one spot higher than Ariza? Is this based on legacy or...??
@  slick shoes : (07 October 2015 - 04:13 PM) It was hard to keep up with both the Astros and Rockets at the same time. Should be interesting on Thursday with the Texans and Astros on simultaneously.
@  Mario Peña : (07 October 2015 - 04:09 PM) It was fun to have the Rockets on last night! Right now I'm watching the Celtics versus Milan and Alessandro Gentile is impressive.
@  jorgeaam : (06 October 2015 - 07:47 PM) Well, thinking twice about it, I'd rather have him score less and have the team as a whole do better. Lawson should take a lot of his load off
@  jorgeaam : (06 October 2015 - 07:47 PM) Loving that, hope he hits 30 PPG this year
@  thejohnnygold : (06 October 2015 - 06:15 PM) Someone is feeling confident :) : LINK
@  jorgeaam : (06 October 2015 - 05:54 PM) 10 Teams done, will need 2 more
@  Mario Peña : (06 October 2015 - 02:35 PM) Alright guys, if anyone is interested in joining the Red94 fantasy basketball league we could use one more player to get us to 10 teams (or three to get us to 12 teams). Just check the thread in the Fantasy Basketball forum. Thanks!
@  thejohnnygold : (05 October 2015 - 06:23 PM) I use leaguepass here in Austin with no problems...
@  skip 2 my lou : (05 October 2015 - 03:14 PM) Hey fellas, I'm a rocket fan but I live in the heart of Dallas. Does anybody know if I buy NBA Leaguepass if it's too close to be subject to blackouts?
@  Losthief : (02 October 2015 - 02:24 AM) tks jg
@  thejohnnygold : (29 September 2015 - 05:16 AM) FYI, it was media day today. Interviews are up at NBA.com
@  slick shoes : (23 September 2015 - 06:37 PM) kind of late in the day but NBATV is broadcasting classis Rockets games all day today.
@  SadLakerFan : (16 September 2015 - 04:37 AM) Man, as a Laker fan, I'm learning how little you care about the off season when your team sucks. Anyway, a quick moment to remember Moses. Still remember watching the 81 team as a kid - losing record, NBA Finals. I would have cried w/joy if they could have beaten the Celtics.
@  jorgeaam : (15 September 2015 - 08:30 PM) http://bleacherrepor...ist-after-crash


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#21 Jatman20


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    Posted 07 December 2014 - 03:59 PM

    Roll the dice with what we got. the media kept saying Houston would be lucky to win 49 games prior to the start of this season with the exit of Asik and Lin and Parsons. If you go back and read my posts I mentioned how factors hurt us last season and we still won 54 games. It's tough to talk about trades when it takes two to tango. This time last year during our self-imposed deadline to trade Asik; I suggested a trade to NY for Melo (rental) and others or to their rival Brooklyn for players (one of the them being Jason Terry-I noted how Terry was the kind of PG i wanted next to Harden). Jason is a shooting guard in a PG's body.....at that time I did not know he had a knee problem. Those of us in the public don't always know all the things behind closed doors. This morning I'm reading in an article that Terrence Jones only recently (season may be in question??) started moving his toes on the involved side.

    Black and Dorsey are like carbon copies of each other ( over-kill perhaps; both raw). So Morey has a dilemma of everyone playing their hearts out; but not enough mins for everyone. A pleasant dilemma; but a dilemma non the less. Can everyone stay happy? Can our PF's guard LMA, Blake, David Lee during the playoffs? Do the Rockets seriously contend and make a move or two or roll the dice and continue playing schoolhouse....teaching raw players such as Canaan, Nick, DMo, Papa, Black and Dorsey. A couple of experienced players could help counter such rawness. If everyone else is ok with what we have, then I am. I heard the same thing last year and then heard a lot of people b*¥€# and complain that we lost in the first round. A chain is only as strong as its weakest link. Terrence couldn't check LMA at 40+ points /game in the first two games in our house.....it put us in a hole. Hopefully this year will be different.

    Edited by Jatman20, 07 December 2014 - 04:01 PM.

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    #22 thejohnnygold



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    Posted 07 December 2014 - 07:11 PM

    Whoa, Jatman20...you're pretty much holding a conversation with yourself.  I'm fine with not "playing GM" with you.  Whatever world you live in seems like a nice place, but I live in a different world.  Further, it seems you aren't really understanding what I'm saying or much of anything I am thinking--so that isn't helping.


    Just to clarify a few things...in no particular order...


    You can still keep Antic and his 31% lifetime achievement award in 3pt shooting (which is but one season).  We can do numbers all day long.  Go check out Antic's playoff series last season.  I guess we should throw him out with the trash like Terrence Jones.


    D-Mo didn't play in last year's play-offs except for 5 minutes in 1 game...he was 2-2 in that 5 minutes with an and-1.  It has never been revealed (as far as I know) why he didn't play, but as badly as we needed a big body, I think he must have been injured in some capacity.


    Using the 2 games LMA went off in the playoffs as any sort of indictment of any player is moot in my book.  In-his-prime Hakeem Olajuwon wasn't going to stop Aldridge in those 2 games.  Not Mutumbo.  Not anyone.  He had a moment that will most likely be one of the best, if not THE best, of his career.  Let's not crucify Jones for all of that.


    You do recall we only lost that first game when Portland got a last second desperation tip-in, don't you?


    What has become obvious in reading your posts is that you value veterans over youth--which is fine.  I think you over-estimate a team's willingness to play a part in your trade fantasies.  Asik for Melo? (unless you are throwing Harden in that trade it is not happening--ever...and as a rental!!!  Like I said, your world seems nice).


    You say this team needs veteran leadership.  I say, this team already has excellent leadership.


    You're concerned about minutes?  Seriously?  You think Nick Johnson (2nd round pick who needs to learn he can't dunk over everyone by jumping from 10-8 feet from the rim and tomahawking the ball in plus he can't shoot yet), Tarik Black (who is just happy to be on an NBA roster and receiving world class coaching and training), Joey Dorsey (same as Tarik), or Canaan (another second rounder who is getting minutes, but still needs to work on finishing at the rim and some passing skills) are going to pout about not getting the minutes they want?  Okie-dokie.  This sounds eerily familiar...do we also think McHale is holding them back and that they would all be better if we let them run the offense instead of James?  Is this going to affect their confidence negatively because McHale is yo-yo-ing their minutes?   :rolleyes:


    As far as "playing schoolhouse" goes....I guess this goes back to your preference for veterans.  Last I checked, the only teams that ever succeed in "buying" their roster and stacking them with complimentary veterans are the ones with LeBron James on them (and usually involves some other team being held hostage by a disgruntled star).  Not with Melo.  Not with Kobe.  Not even our own Harden/Howard duo.  No, only LeBron seems to have that kind of clout to make it work as easily as you make it seem.


    What does work?  Exactly what we are doing.  Building a pipeline of talent that compliments our two stars.  They are not all going to pan out, but the ones that do we can keep (i.e. Jones, D-MO....and mark it down--Nick Johnson will be the second coming of Kevin Johnson.  I am already 100% sold on that guy).  Meanwhile, Morey is tap-dancing all over the salary cap by keeping those mid-level veteran contracts (read: anvils) off our books.




    I think the win now before the window closes panic is involved here.  This roster.  This path.  This can work.  Think about it.  Put D-Mo on a bad team (say the Wolves or Sixers) and they start feeding him in the post and letting him corral all those bricked shots their guards are chucking up.  He's going to look like DeMarcus Cousins (at least in the stat sheet) with 20+ ppg and 14-15 rpg with a few assists, a steal and a block or two.  


    If that were the case, we would be talking about trading Beverley, Jones, and Papa for D-Mo (You know, that super efficient post player who is a legit 7' tall, can shoot from deep, dribble-drive from the perimeter, is a great passer, can finish from both sides with either hand, can create his own offense, plays solid defense and by all accounts is a great teammate?  You mean that guy?  Yes, yes I do.)....which is why we're not trading him.

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    #23 Cooper


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      Posted 07 December 2014 - 10:37 PM

      I think only a small trade is in order this year picking up a 4th big or  wing depending on how the Tjones situation progresses Black/johnson have been off to a solid start but It'd be hard to play them in a playoff game and Garcia might just be in a slump but he looks pretty washed up. Small trade to patch up end of the rotation and keep the major assets and flexibility to see how they develop or use for a legit 3rd star at a later point.

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