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[txtdo1411]

Ish had a bad bad game last night. I agree that he should not make the roster. There was one possession late in the game where we moved the ball extremely well to find the wide open shooter at the top of the key... only problem was that it happened to be Ish Smith. What inevitably happened was Ish drove to the crowded lane passed to a covered player(I believe it was Black), and we couldn't even get a shot off before the 24 second clock expired. Not being able to space the floor as a guard is a big no-no in this offense. You  have to be elite at all other areas if you can't shoot, and Ish obviously is not. I do wish him the best on another roster. 

[Losthief]

Yay, it's RAPM and dRAPM time!  OK, let's begin.  First, here is the link to the page cited: LINK

 

Notice anything unique?  I notice that Ish, unlike the other people he is sharing that top 10 with, only played 14 minutes per game and almost entirely against back-ups and in garbage time.  In fact, according to basketball-reference.com, he only started 1 game and his Drtng jumped from 108 to 117 (neither of which are good).  Phoenix was an average, yet slightly under-rated, defensive team last season overall and played at a high pace.

 

Where I'd say Ish is most horrific defensively is having the ball on offense where he often is quite good at helping start fast breaks....going the other direction.

 

Ish puts in the effort and has the speed and athleticism (didn't he make a very good block in our first game?) to be a good defender; however, he gambles, gets lost, and lacks the fundamentals to warrant that bogus dRAPM score.  That is why NBA.com has filters--to weed out the scores that shouldn't be there.

 

It's all moot.  The moment he blew the in-bounds play against Miami late in the game I pretty much scratched him from the roster.  Coach gave him a chance to run the team and he ran it into the ground.  (For those watching, did you see the look on McHale's face after that play?)  Ish is a PG without a PG's mind.  Good luck Ish.  I wish you luck playing ball....anywhere but here.

 

yeah a big key with stats (even minutes adjusted stats) is you gotta group who your comparing together effectively.

 

Aka starters with starters at there positions

 

6 and 7 men off the bench (20-25 min a game)

 

8-10 off the bench (5-15 min a game)

 

garbage time players

 

If a guy excels in one group, then you can try him in the next group up, aka harden/omer. He exceled at the 6 and 7 man group (20-25 min a game) thus was worth the risk to try in the next group up (starters) where he panned out, some do some don't (case 1: ariza w/ rockets 1st time). But you can't take a garbage time player or a 8-10 bench rotation guy and plug him in directly as a starter and expect good/equal results. Because his numbers (especially for garbage time players) came against a different level of competition. Now that said....the guy I really would like to take from the 6/7 group if we get an all-star level pg and try as a starter is amir johnson.

Edited by Losthief, 22 October 2014 - 08:16 PM.

[Steven]

Canaan is the answer due to preseason play.

[rockets best fan]

@Steven

as of right now I am in agreement with that