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#1 Red94

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    Posted 10 July 2014 - 01:19 PM

    New post: Houston Rockets on the clock or, "Et tu, Chandler?"
    By: rahat huq

    I went to bed last night, as I typically do, around 11:30 central standard time.  I knew I'd awaken to the news that Chandler Parsons had signed the offer sheet extended to him by the Dallas Mavericks yesterday afternoon.  Instead, I was rudely greeted by this pic of Mavericks owner Mark Cuban, with Parsons, retweeted by just about everyone I knew:

    Good Thursday morning, everyone. (Now hit the snooze button. Again. And again.) RT @clutchfans: Ugh. pic.twitter.com/xT6EwvODiY

    — Adam Clanton (@adamclanton) July 10, 2014

    Ugh.

    The first time I saw Chandler Parsons, I was ironically staked out in front of Marcus Morris' locker along with four or five other reporters.  It was the first game of the young forward's career and I had several questions about the transition to small forward.  I thought Morris was going to be an absolute stud.  Parsons came by, already dressed, tossed some stuff into his locker, cracked a joke, and took off.  (The "scrubs" on a professional basketball team depart the fastest after games because they know no one is waiting to talk to them).  Now the guy is earning max-level NBA dollars.  Amazing.

    There are several issues here surrounding this story which need to be addressed.  First, I'll cut to the point, to the question all of you have been asking me: does this prohibit Houston from signing Chris Bosh or signing both Bosh and Parsons?  The simple answer is 'no.'  The basic mechanics remain the same.  The team can sign Bosh and then, irrespective of the unexpected size of this offer, retain Parsons by matching the Mavericks' offer sheet and exceeding the cap through Chandler's bird rights.

    Things get much, much dicier from there.

    There's no use delving into the numbers here in this limited space because there are so many different permutations of how things could play out, with so many unsettled variables, each with significant consequences of their own.  For one, the final construction of the Asik trade still is not clear.  New Orleans simply cannot absorb the Turkish center into space, but sending back a salary match would be prohibitive in the Rockets' goals; a traded-player-exception is likely going to be generated in that Pelicans deal.  The final details on the 76ers' Jeremy Lin deal which may or may not have been already been agreed upon (sorry again for premature tweet last night, you guys) also are unknown.  Then there's Bosh who can either be signed outright into space (which would necessitate stripping the cupboard bare), or acquired via sign&trade, a maneuver which would allow the team to remain above the cap and retain its exceptions, but would be dependent on the mechanics of the Asik trade, but with the status of the midlevel dependent upon "apron" concerns which have been complicated by the size of this offer....

    *takes breath*

    You can see why it's better to just wait at least to see how the Asik and Lin trades play out.  But yes, the Rockets can sign Bosh and retain Parsons.

    Would they do that?  I think it's almost a guarantee that if they got Bosh, Houston would match on Parsons.  Scratch that - I don't know.  If they have an avenue to get a cheaper replacement, they might consider that route.  But I feel strongly that Houston would match on Parsons.  I'm not even sure getting Bosh alone is worth it without having Parsons along with him in the lineup.

    If they don't get Bosh?  Things get dicier.  I think that in the event Houston strikes out on Bosh, they let Chandler walk.  They won't blow the precious cap space they've been culturing on retaining Parsons.  I suppose they could try to sign Luol Deng to a massive one or two year deal to preserve the "space" as a placeholder, and then re-sign Parsons, but that would require some gymnastics.  The bottom line is that striking out on all of the big names and then losing Parsons ontop of it (or hell, even just keeping him on a bad deal) would represent Houston's absolute worst-case scenario coming into this offseason.  As I tweeted yesterday afternoon, Houston is very close to realizing their absolute worst case scenario.

    Bosh or not, the team could match on Parsons and then look to trade him down the line.  But is that $15million contract tradable?  Hell if I know that, at this point.  I didn't even think Parsons was worth $10million per annum (a topic regarding which I wrote a near dissertation, spanning the past two years, and about five blog posts)...

    Why did Parsons move so quickly on this deal?  In other words, "Et tu, Chandler?"  I need to clarify my thoughts here from yesterday as a 140 character limit isn't....uhhh....you know, sufficient for nuanced opinions and some of you got the wrong idea.  As you know, Houston now has three days to match, or, in essence, three days to sign Chris Bosh, or all hell breaks loose and I shut down the blog.  Couldn't he have waited?  Shouldn't he have waited, if not just to give the Rockets time to work things out with Bosh?  Some of you took umbrage at my insinuation that this development was disappointing, stating Parsons owed Houston nothing and was merely "an asset" in their grand plan.  Realize that Houston let Parsons out of his contract a year early, allowing him to test the market and extract this payday.  They didn't have to do that.  With that being said--as many of you pointed out and as I did not have the characters left to enunciate--that act was not purely borne from altruism on the part of Houston, as nothing is in the world of hardline economics.  The Rockets stood to gain because they could then control their own fate regarding Parsons, rather than letting the market dictate his destination.  (They probably just grossly estimated their chances in free agency at landing one of the big stars).  In summary, I was simply saying that it would have been kind of nice if Chandler could have simply held off a bit longer rather than just jumping at the crack of midnight to ink his signature.  That observation is not exclusive to the nuances of this ordeal: both sides had their own agendas.

    There also is the very likely possibility that Dallas, knowing Houston was in a bind, required this deal get done sooner than later.  There also is the reality that you don't walk away from someone offering you a bag filled with 46 million $1 bills.

    Now the race is on.  Houston has to sign Chris Bosh before the three day window expires meaning essentially that Houston's fate, the ultimate destiny of The Morey Project, lies in the hands of Lebron James.  Ugh.  I feel somewhat comforted by a report, well, I guess "theory", surfacing yesterday evening that James was cognizant of Bosh's circumstances and would not delay his decision unnecessarily in mindfulness of that.  Then I remembered that this is the same guy that crushed the hearts of an entire city on national television and I went back into depression.  Gun to my head prediction?  I think we hear something on Bosh by tomorrow.  There's no way this thing drags out longer, is there?  Several readers mentioned yesterday that if there truly was a strong possibility of James returning to the Heat, would Bosh really have progressed so far into talks with Houston?  I don't know at this point.

    A last note on Parsons:  I wrote last year, at length, that in a vacuum, Parsons wasn't even worth $10 million per annum.  He doesn't defend, is a streaky shooter, and doesn't have the handles nor athleticism to create his own shot.  He's essentially a glorified roleplayer.  Having said that, on this team, especially with Bosh in tow, for synergistic value alone, Parsons is worth at the least $10 million.  Is he worth $15 million?  While he might not be, if they land Bosh, the impact of his absence makes it the case that you almost have to keep him.  Those are the realities of team-building in the modern NBA.

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    #2 timetodienow1234567

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    Posted 10 July 2014 - 01:40 PM

    Why would you feel slighted by Parsons. Remember Morey sees players as assets like all GMs do. However, it seems to me that Morey is more honest about that and it's shown in his dealings with players. So there was no loyalty built in to the organization. Secondly, Morey gambled that Parsons wouldn't get this lucrative an offer. He made Parsons an RFA in order to be able to match with bird rights. Morey when it comes to the Rockets does NOT do things to be nice. He would he horrible at his job if that were the case.

    Also, I don't see Lebron and bosh waiting until July 13 to make a decision.
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    Why so Serious? :D


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      Posted 10 July 2014 - 02:36 PM

      Parsons has one of the best agents in the business. He coached him on how to approach the situation, testing Morey's loyalty by putting him in a bind and giving ultimatum. I don't think Parsons is worth $15 million/year, $10 million max. I personally think the $15 million is way more valuable to us as a foot on the throat of the Mavs cap space. SFs with his skill set (or lack of) are replete in this league and can be had at a much better rate (see D.Granger). Hell, even Robert Covington could probably slide right in and we wouldn't miss a beat. Let him go and make Cuban PAY!  My 13 YO daughter wouldn't speak to me for months if she knew I said this.


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      #4 Mario Peña

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      Posted 10 July 2014 - 02:52 PM

      Completely agree with you Alituro and funny comment about you daughter. I also agree the Mavs are overpaying and they justified it with Dirk's discount knowing they are not in the running for any free agents in the near future, realistically. In my opinion the Mavs are shuffling the deck whenever they can because they have no good hands coming their way, it's all about Carlisle (2nd best coach in NBA) maximizing an aging Dirk-centric team. The Mavs won't last long at this rate.

      The icing on the cake was Cuban getting Morey back and in two years after the new TV deal gets done it won't be a bad deal so yes Cuban is smart but I still despise him.
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      How sweet it is!

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      Posted 10 July 2014 - 02:58 PM

      Surely this simile has been used before, but this offseason is like Adult Christmas for me. I'm constantly checking NBA blogs for clues and hints about what my GM has gotten me; I'm constantly shaking ESPN and Yahoo to figure it out...except there is a real possibility that I may not get anything, and in fact may have some toys taken away and given to someone else...to some kid in Dallas. I'm gonna get shot with my own BB gun.


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      Posted 10 July 2014 - 03:05 PM

      I actually blame Charlotte here by setting the bar way too high on the position with their offer to Hayward.  Once that amount happened, it was just a matter of time before someone offer Chandler that kinda coin.

       

      And I don't blame him for signing.  He specifically changed from a 2 way player to offensive threat last year, all to receive this kind of deal.  More power to him.  And while I dislike the idea of him being in conference, division, AND state, it is what it is.

       

      That said, if we let him walk (and I think we should), then who is our replacement target?  Hamilton did well when he first got here.  He and Garcia opted out, right?  Do we move Covington into the lineup, or try for one of the midrange SFs?


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      #7 Alituro

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        Posted 10 July 2014 - 03:07 PM

        Surely this simile has been used before, but this offseason is like Adult Christmas for me. I'm constantly checking NBA blogs for clues and hints about what my GM has gotten me; I'm constantly shaking ESPN and Yahoo to figure it out...except there is a real possibility that I may not get anything, and in fact may have some toys taken away and given to someone else...to some kid in Dallas. I'm gonna get shot with my own BB gun.

        LOL... Welcome Aboard!


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        Posted 10 July 2014 - 03:39 PM

        LOL... Welcome Aboard!

        Thank you sir! Looking forward to the communal experience of this here blog.  


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          Posted 10 July 2014 - 04:15 PM

          If the rumor is true, Bosh is waiting for LBJ than the chance LBJ will stay in Miami will be very high. But I think the opposite is true, LBJ is waiting for Bosh to decide before he can determine to leave Miami or not. Therefore I believe this is more about what Miami is willing to offer Bosh instead.There will be a good chance all these FA will end up staying with their old team, including Parson. Making this year FA a lot of big talk but no action. 


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            Posted 10 July 2014 - 04:31 PM

            In case Bosh is not signed, what do folks feel Morey will do?   If Morey is contacting Deng and other small forward, seems like that would indicate he's not matching Dallas' offer for Parson, no?


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              Posted 10 July 2014 - 04:31 PM

              First of all a player's worth is determined by the market (the 30 NBA teams), not NBA team forums. Is $15 million per year more than what people expected? Maybe. But to second tier teams (teams that aren't New York, LA, Chicago, Miami, or Lebron's "home" town) players like Parsons are whats available. Dirk took less money so the Mavs could get someone like Parsons, he didn't take less money so the Mavs could go into the season with cap space. The Mavs had to spend the money, and Parson's was the best player available (to them). Kudo's for the Mav's getting the best player they could "realistically" get.

               

              Parsons did whats best for Parsons. Im fine with that. Some of you might think that Parsons "owed" it to the Rockets to wait for the Rockets offer? Why? Because they drafted him and gave him an opportunity in the NBA? That's nonsense. Because they let him enter free agency a year early? More nonsense. Teams do what's in the best interest of the team (excluding the Lakers who gave Kobe a team crippling deal and Miami who will do the same with Wade). Houston (Morey) let Parsons out early because they wanted to be able to control the situation, meaning we can (or will) match whatever offer Chandler signs. Had they let him hit unrestricted free agency that  option is gone.

               

              There's this conspiracy theory going around that Morey and Chandler had arranged some sort of "verbal" deal basically saying that if we (the Rockets) let you (Parsons) out early you (Parsons) should wait until we've acquired our free agents this off season then we can go over the cap to take care of you (Parsons). Maybe this happened, maybe this didn't. No one knows.But envision this scenario from Parson's perspective:

               

              Parson's decides to wait until the Rockets sign the free agent the Rockets want (Lowry, Melo, Bosh) then his contract negotiations begin. His agent tells every team that is interested " Sorry, but I'm going back to the Rockets, just waiting for them to take care of some other player(s) first). By waiting every NBA team that had some interest in Parsons use their cap space on other players. The market for Parsons outside of Houston dries up. Now the Rockets get (or don't) the Free Agent(s) they want and now its Parsons turn. Morey offers Parsons 4 years $40 million. Fair contract? Maybe. Less than what he wouldve gotten had he taken meetings with other teams? Absolutely. He's seen Channing Frye get $8 million a year from his hometown team and Gordon Hayward get a max deal from Charlotte/Utah. He's also seen Luol Deng get $13-$14 million a year from someone with cap space to burn (pure assumption of future event). Maybe he was expecting 4 years $50 million. But what choice does he have now? He no longer has any leverage (signing an offer sheet elsewhere) and he's fresh off being vastly underpaid for the past 3 years. He has to take the offer right?

               

              So in this scenario his best case is somewhere around 4 years $50 million (lets all agree the Rockets were never going to give him a max deal unless its because they have to match another offer). Worst case under this scenario is somewhere around $10 million a year. 

               

              Now lets look at what just happened yesterday:

               

              Best case scenario is the Rockets match and he gets a max deal with the Rockets. Worst case scenario is he gets a max deal with a team in a state with no income tax and that team also plays unselfish basketball. He becomes next in line to be the face of the franchise when that team's franchise player retires or takes a less primary role on the offense. 

               

              If you're Parsons what do you do?

               

               

              Looks like Parson's made the right choice (for Himself). Does he hurt the Rockets? Maybe. But Morey should've envisions the scenario where Parsons doesnt wait for the Rockets and signs a max offer sheet elsewhere. I applaud Parson's for getting his, 

               

              This also brings to light the fact that maybe players aren't stomping over each other to play with Harden and Howard. Why should anyone take less money to play with someone who thinks he should get more post up opportunities (Howard) or someone who thinks that the best shot for the team is the shot he takes (Harden) and pouts if he doesnt get the ball (Harden).

               

               

               

              Ball is now in the Rockets court. 


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              Posted 10 July 2014 - 04:33 PM

              If the rumor is true, Bosh is waiting for LBJ than the chance LBJ will stay in Miami will be very high. But I think the opposite is true, LBJ is waiting for Bosh to decide before he can determine to leave Miami or not. Therefore I believe this is more about what Miami is willing to offer Bosh instead.There will be a good chance all these FA will end up staying with their old team, including Parson. Making this year FA a lot of big talk but no action. 

               

              Even if Bosh stays in MIA, we should let CP walk at that price. Imagine all the bench with money to work with. Next man up isnt such a fall off.


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              trickin' six digits on kicks and still holdin'.

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                Posted 10 July 2014 - 04:40 PM

                If the rumor is true, Bosh is waiting for LBJ than the chance LBJ will stay in Miami will be very high. But I think the opposite is true, LBJ is waiting for Bosh to decide before he can determine to leave Miami or not. Therefore I believe this is more about what Miami is willing to offer Bosh instead.There will be a good chance all these FA will end up staying with their old team, including Parson. Making this year FA a lot of big talk but no action. 

                chance LBJ stays in Miami is very high?

                 

                Why? If the chance he was staying in Miami is very high he would've re-signed with them by now. I think whats going on is he's seeing if the Cavs can add some more pieces.

                 

                LBJ. Kyrie irving, Wiggins, Waters, Varejao. Tristan Thompson is a great team.

                 

                LBJ, Irving, Kevin Love, Ray Allen Mike Miller, Varejao. Thats a problem for the rest of the league.

                 

                The longer we wait for his decision the more likely it is that he's going to sign with the Cavs.

                 

                The fact that he didnt resign last night makes me think he's more and more likely to go back to the cavs.


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                Posted 10 July 2014 - 04:53 PM

                Dallas has to overpay for players like Parsons whereas the Rockets don't have to be as desperate. The Mavs are on a lower tier similiar to Portland and Phoenix. Case in point Bosh is from the DFW area and he isn't even giving the Mavs a thought whereas Houston is at the top of his list, mostly because of Howard in the middle, Harden's elite game and the Rockets front office stability/money opportunities.
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                Posted 10 July 2014 - 04:54 PM

                 

                 

                 

                There's this conspiracy theory going around that Morey and Chandler had arranged some sort of "verbal" deal basically saying that if we (the Rockets) let you (Parsons) out early you (Parsons) should wait until we've acquired our free agents this off season then we can go over the cap to take care of you (Parsons). Maybe this happened, maybe this didn't. No one knows.But envision this scenario from Parson's perspective:

                 

                 

                You're cracking me up.  We're all reading the same posts.  You can refer directly to me as I am pretty sure that's what this "conspiracy theory" alludes to.

                 

                Is it speculation that they had a "deal" heading into free agency?  Yes--and I have never implied different.  What I have always held to is that they most definitely have discussed their future.  Morey, Parsons, and Fegan have all talked about what each wants from the other.

                 

                Did I presume there was going to be some collusion where Parsons and Morey already had an agreed upon price and a "handshake" deal in place before releasing him?  Yes.  It made sense.  In this scenario, none of that other stuff about losing leverage matters.

                 

                I always allowed for the possibility that Parsons was going to go for the cash and, if so, good for him.  I didn't think he would, but I was wrong.  Calling my speculation a "conspiracy theory" in the face of the last 4 years+ of blatant collusion between players and management is turning a blind eye to the reality of this league.  Trust me.  They talked.  They may not have agreed on a deal that kept Parsons (Morey may still match...who knows), but it is not a conspiracy theory to think they discussed free agency.  Morey wouldn't be doing his job if he hadn't.

                 

                The bottom line is you don't let an opportunity pass to kick dirt in the Rockets' faces.  In the last couple of days you have managed to take digs at Morey, McHale, Harden, Howard, the fans, and probably others that I am forgetting.

                 

                So, uojoe82....

                 

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                  Posted 10 July 2014 - 04:57 PM

                  If Bosh signs and lets Parsons walk this team will still have a ton of holes.

                   

                  Since Parsons signed an offer sheet it takes the sign and trade option off the table. Therefore the Rockets get nothing in Return.

                   

                  Where is the perimeter shooting going to come from?

                   

                  Parson's perimeter shooting could best be described as "streaky" but at least he was a threat to go on a streak. And Bosh? I guess he's a stretch 4 but I think people vastly overrate him as a perimeter shooter. He shot 34% last year. And thats playing with LBJ. That's also a lower percent that Lin for all you Lin Haters. Harden? He's either going to go 4 for 5 or 1 for 8. Can't count on him. And Beverley? Well the earth has to align with the moon just right and he has to be wide open with the game not on the line to be accurate. 

                   

                  If getting Bosh means that the Rockets had to lose Asik, Lin, maybe Parsons, maybe Jones/Canaan, first round pick(s), then Im not sure this team is any better going into next season.

                   

                  And lets not forget that Bosh going to the western conference basically ends his run of all-star game appearances. Its not like his numbers are going to get better being the third option on this team. And the west is stacked at the 4 and 5 position so you would have to be optimistic about his all star chances. 

                   

                  I don't love the Bosh signing (assuming it happens). I get why Morey wants him (it give the rockets there own big three even though only 2 of the 3 will be all stars). But for $20 million you could do so much better.

                   

                  Why not get Gasol, Deng, and a couple other complementary pieces (Mo Williams, Ray Allen, DJ Augustin, Jerryd Bayless)?

                   

                  You could get Gasol for probably 3 years $24 million. Thats 40% of what Bosh costs and you probably get 70% to 90% of the production. Gasol is also an elite passer and the offense can run through him so players have to move. Thats why the thunder are desperate for him. 

                   

                  Deng probably gets the same contract as Gasol. He's tough, a good defender, and is as professional as there is on the court. 

                   

                  There so many better options out there than Bosh at max money. 


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                  Posted 10 July 2014 - 05:04 PM

                  I haven't seen a case to be made for the Cavs making their trade without some assurance from LBJ. Why would they have traded anyone before feeling like they have a good chance to get Lebron? Was it the only deal they could find? Was timing of the essence? 

                  I suppose the trade gives them a max slot, and another good draft pick (protected) next season also, but no one is going there unless James does. Just having a max slot hasn't (isn't) going to work out for a number of teams. James has to be going to Cleveland, and Bosh has to be coming here. Right? Right?!

                  Last summer I thought, "This is the most anxious I've been during a summer since '97." "Famous last words, for a thousand Alex."

                  In checking that I had the correct year (Jazz/Rockets Conference Finals), I found an interesting Wikipedia entry on "Jazz-Rockets rivalry."  


                  Edited by Xamustard, 10 July 2014 - 05:08 PM.

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                  #18 John P

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                    Posted 10 July 2014 - 05:08 PM



                    Sorry Xamustard but Bosh is a no-brainer, even better than Melo. Plays both sides of the ball...does all the things that we need perfectly.

                    Did you see what Gasol and Howard did in LA together?

                    My question is if we sign Bosh, do we have to sign Parsons....or can we get a similar player for cheaper (Deng comes to mind). Maybe he is the same price, in which case go with Parsons (younger, limited but more upside, team captain-ish). Any ideas.

                    Also, who is our bench if we sign both Bosh and Chandler? Anyone? Anyone?


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                    #19 Xamustard

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                    Posted 10 July 2014 - 05:23 PM

                    Sorry Xamustard but Bosh is a no-brainer, even better than Melo. 

                     

                    I'm certainly in favor of Bosh over Carmelo. The only player I'd like to see on the Rockets more is K. Love, but signing Bosh is better than giving up anyone in trade, minus Asik and Lin, which is essentially all they'd have to do. It's not a stretch to think that Bosh is Morey's true target this offseason...not Melo. 


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                    #20 uojoe82

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                      Posted 10 July 2014 - 05:24 PM

                      You're cracking me up.  We're all reading the same posts.  You can refer directly to me as I am pretty sure that's what this "conspiracy theory" alludes to.

                       

                      Is it speculation that they had a "deal" heading into free agency?  Yes--and I have never implied different.  What I have always held to is that they most definitely have discussed their future.  Morey, Parsons, and Fegan have all talked about what each wants from the other.

                       

                      Did I presume there was going to be some collusion where Parsons and Morey already had an agreed upon price and a "handshake" deal in place before releasing him?  Yes.  It made sense.  In this scenario, none of that other stuff about losing leverage matters.

                       

                      I always allowed for the possibility that Parsons was going to go for the cash and, if so, good for him.  I didn't think he would, but I was wrong.  Calling my speculation a "conspiracy theory" in the face of the last 4 years+ of blatant collusion between players and management is turning a blind eye to the reality of this league.  Trust me.  They talked.  They may not have agreed on a deal that kept Parsons (Morey may still match...who knows), but it is not a conspiracy theory to think they discussed free agency.  Morey wouldn't be doing his job if he hadn't.

                       

                      The bottom line is you don't let an opportunity pass to kick dirt in the Rockets' faces.  In the last couple of days you have managed to take digs at Morey, McHale, Harden, Howard, the fans, and probably others that I am forgetting.

                       

                      So, uojoe82....

                       

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                      Definition of Conspiracy Thoery

                       

                       theory that explains an event or situation as the result of a secret plan by usually powerful people or groups

                       

                      Hmmmmmmm. Morey/Rockets (powerful Group)  and Parson's (powerful person)  secret plan to let the Rockets sign a marquee free agent then sign parsons sounds a lot like a conspiracy theory.


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