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#21 rocketrick

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    Posted 24 April 2014 - 11:51 PM

    I just want to go on record here and be the first in this forum demanding that the Rockets fire Head Coach _____________ whomever that may be in the next upcoming couple of seasons.

    That seems to be the thing to do. Just simply start dumping against whoever the Head Coach happens to be, because, you know, 25/30 NBA Coaches in the next 2-3 years are probably gonna be fired. That's just how it is.

    So sure, clamoring that your team fires the Head Coach often becomes true because it happens so frequently. I guess it just gives certain posters comfort that for once one of their suggestions finally came through.

    Why? Because only 1 team can win the title, only 2 teams can make it to the NBA Finals, and only 4 teams can make it to their Conference Finals. Everyone else is considered a loser, failure, etc. and must be Fired.

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      Posted 25 April 2014 - 02:05 AM

      I don't think it is McHale's foul at all......when your star players Harden/Parsons not playing well for two straight games....I don't care who the coach is, you're going to lose these games. Our line-up don't match well against Trailblazers. Howard, Parsons, Bev, Lin, & Harden could not stop anybody! Yet, who else can you put in?


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        Posted 25 April 2014 - 02:55 AM

        It's the no set plays and half court offense like never running the PNR, the bad defensive schemes, the lack of adjustments, having a 7 man rotation and running your starters into the ground that pisses off the fan base. Those are all the coaches mistakes. Maybe the starters would play little better too if they weren't so exhausted. Yes coaches get fires because people realize they're never going to be able to take them to the promise land even if they're good coach. Just ask Karl.
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        Posted 25 April 2014 - 03:36 AM

        @Buckko

        I guess you can see why I was so high on LMA now. totally agree with your point......our offense is primitive....our defense is a dumpster fire


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        you can only warn a man that the bridge is out.....if he keeps driving he's on his own B)


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        Posted 25 April 2014 - 03:39 AM

        TBH a dumpster fire will guard LMA better..... :rolleyes: 


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          Posted 25 April 2014 - 03:39 AM

          It's the no set plays and half court offense like never running the PNR, the bad defensive schemes, the lack of adjustments, having a 7 man rotation and running your starters into the ground that pisses off the fan base. Those are all the coaches mistakes. Maybe the starters would play little better too if they weren't so exhausted. Yes coaches get fires because people realize they're never going to be able to take them to the promise land even if they're good coach. Just ask Karl.

          possibly Frank Vogel too.
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            Posted 25 April 2014 - 03:49 AM

            TBH a dumpster fire will guard LMA better..... :rolleyes:

            Hasn't LMA been hitting contested shots. If you have your hand in his face and he still hits his shot, what else can you do. Just like when Dorell Wright hit that 3 over Lin in the corner. lin was in perfect position and had his hand in wright's face, but somehow wright hit the shot. LMA is looking a lot like Dirk in 2011/12.
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            Posted 25 April 2014 - 03:55 AM

            Hasn't LMA been hitting contested shots. If you have your hand in his face and he still hits his shot, what else can you do. Just like when Dorell Wright hit that 3 over Lin in the corner. lin was in perfect position and had his hand in wright's face, but somehow wright hit the shot. LMA is looking a lot like Dirk in 2011/12.

            Yep.....exactly.


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              Posted 25 April 2014 - 04:31 AM

              McHale can't make adjustments.  If Frank Vogel is under fire, then I can only imagine how tenuous McHale's spot is.  Even though I picked him in my All-NBA team in another post, I wouldn't have seen him score 40+ in back to back games when you have two of the top defensive centers in the league and a very active Terence Jones.  He maybe shooting lights out, buts its time for McHale to play 'pick-your-poison'.  ANYBODY but LMA has got to be shooting the ball on the Portland roster.


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                Posted 25 April 2014 - 04:37 AM

                Vogels team is being handily beaten by a team that finished under .500 and is missing its best player, he's under more heat than mchale. 


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                  Posted 25 April 2014 - 04:49 AM

                  McHale can't make adjustments. If Frank Vogel is under fire, then I can only imagine how tenuous McHale's spot is. Even though I picked him in my All-NBA team in another post, I wouldn't have seen him score 40+ in back to back games when you have two of the top defensive centers in the league and a very active Terence Jones. He maybe shooting lights out, buts its time for McHale to play 'pick-your-poison'. ANYBODY but LMA has got to be shooting the ball on the Portland roster.


                  You say pick your poison and then you say anybody but LMA has to shoot. So how do you stop him from shooting? You want to leave Lillard, Mathews, batum, or Williams wide open? Good luck with that. All of them are above average shooters. I will take my chances with LMA hitting contested shots and everybody else shooting poorly like last game. There is no comparison between Vogels position and McHales. A #1 seed losing to one of the worst playoff teams in history is not exactly the same as a #4 seed losing to a #5 seed.
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                    Posted 25 April 2014 - 05:17 AM

                    I just want to go on record here and be the first in this forum demanding that the Rockets fire Head Coach _____________ whomever that may be in the next upcoming couple of seasons.

                    That seems to be the thing to do. Just simply start dumping against whoever the Head Coach happens to be, because, you know, 25/30 NBA Coaches in the next 2-3 years are probably gonna be fired. That's just how it is.

                    So sure, clamoring that your team fires the Head Coach often becomes true because it happens so frequently. I guess it just gives certain posters comfort that for once one of their suggestions finally came through.

                    Why? Because only 1 team can win the title, only 2 teams can make it to the NBA Finals, and only 4 teams can make it to their Conference Finals. Everyone else is considered a loser, failure, etc. and must be Fired.

                    yes. all mchale critics are simply reactionary moronic mouth breathing casual fans  <_<​ .  truly there were no viewers with valid criticisms. inability to instill discipline in the team for 2 seasons (effortless quarters)- invalid. offensive collapses in the 4th- invalid. limited play book/read and react offense being a problem in the post season- invalid. no mid range options will be difficult in the post season- invalid. inability to create an identity- invalid. inability to get rid of bad habits- invalid.

                     

                    if the rockets lost playing houston rocket basketball. perfectly fine. can't win them all. but to see them habitually look unrecognizable... come on man.

                     

                    maybe i wouldn't sound so harsh if you didn't give off a "there are no flaws" vibe. i mean really? accountability be damned.


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                    Posted 25 April 2014 - 06:45 AM

                    I don't think there is any bigger Rockets fan than me. being a fan doesn't mean I have to love everything the Rockets do. I like Morey, but he hired a bad coach. he is not above making human errors. Morey's built a good team, but handed the keys to the wrong man. McHale doesn't have a clue. let's have a mini review of his tenure as a coach since including his GM years would be overkill. I'll even stick to just the Rockets. McHale has been here for three years. his first year was the shortened season. he took what should have been a playoff team and proceeded to crash and burn at the end of the season while alienating the teams best player. year two......again the team was on fire at the end of the season losing to the Lakers the last game of the season and having to settle for the eighth seed. met OKC in the playoffs and if Westbrick doesn't get hurt we get sweep. However the basketball gods cut us a break and let us taste victory a couple of times before being dispatched. year three.......much better year however much better talent. still crashing at the end of the year. securing the four seed was much harder than it needed to be. during all McHale's time here his teams have all struggled with the same basic problems.

                     

                    1. poor late game execution

                    2. high turnovers

                    3. lack of energy.....not ready to play at tipoff/sleep walking through games

                    4. poor defensive rotations

                    5. offensive stagnation

                    6. poor execution after timeouts

                    7. end of quarter drop-offs in play/ we don't close out quarters well

                    8. lack of structured plays that we can lean on in a pinch

                     

                    sure all teams struggle with some of this stuff from time to time, but these are the hallmarks of McHale lead teams. I know some have excuses for some of the things we have endured the last three years, however excuses are for second place teams IMO. I have watched McHale get outcoached regularly even though he possessed the most talent laden teams. WHY are some teams more disciplined than others? COACHING. do you believe Pop would go for Harden ole' defense? his iso ball? we are not a team that's disciplined in the fundamentals aka the little things. McHale isn't putting the players in the best position to have success. every time I hear him talk it's the same old garbage.......the ball got sticky or we didn't get out and run.....no transition game......no easy buckets. fact is we need more than one way to win a game. you can't  fast break on everybody. some teams do a good job of getting back.......what then......iso ball? Howard in the low post? fact is our offense is elementary. many have admitted McHale isn't a good x's and o's man, but that's just the beginning of where he falls short of being a good coach. I propose he not a good leader of men


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                      Posted 25 April 2014 - 08:03 AM

                      yes. all mchale critics are simply reactionary moronic mouth breathing casual fans  <_<​ .  truly there were no viewers with valid criticisms. inability to instill discipline in the team for 2 seasons (effortless quarters)- invalid. offensive collapses in the 4th- invalid. limited play book/read and react offense being a problem in the post season- invalid. no mid range options will be difficult in the post season- invalid. inability to create an identity- invalid. inability to get rid of bad habits- invalid.
                       
                      if the rockets lost playing houston rocket basketball. perfectly fine. can't win them all. but to see them habitually look unrecognizable... come on man.
                       
                      maybe i wouldn't sound so harsh if you didn't give off a "there are no flaws" vibe. i mean really? accountability be damned.


                      There were more than a few forum members 3 years ago that was denouncing the Coach McHale hire from the very start. That was the sole purpose of my posting tonight which you replied. I have been both a supporter and a critic of McHale and some of the Rockets players.

                      For anyone to paint me as a dude with a "no flaws vibe" is totally incorrect and untrue. Of course, not everyone reads all the posts all the time, rather they just pick out a few posts they disagree with and comment off those so I can't blame you solely for that.

                      Still, it is true that there were McHale detractors from Day 1, James Harden detractors from Day 1, Dwight Howard detractors from Day 1, et al.

                      It's perfectly fine and acceptable to be a Rockets fan and be critical. But some on here seem to be on a mission to be proven as the dude who knew better than Leslie Alexander and Daryl Morey on their major decisions. That seems to be more important to them than to actually cheer for the Rockets. That means during adversity as well as during the winning streaks.

                      Lastly, the Rockets are the 3rd youngest team in the NBA this season, they finished tied with the 4th overall best record in the league (both conferences), won 54 games and 4th place seed in the hotly contested Western Conference. Like Feeling Supersonic said in another message board earlier today, the Rockets would be a 2nd seed in the Eastern Conference.

                      It doesn't matter. Like I have always said, before Dream and the Rockets won their back to back championships there were plenty of "fans" clamoring for Dream to be traded and for Coach Rudy to be fired.

                      So should San Antonio fire the NBA Coach of the Year for his team clearly being outplayed the first 2 games of his series as the #1 seed vs. (#8 seed) Dallas and lucky to be tied 1-1? Should Indiana really be considering firing Vogel after his team made it to the NBA Eastern Conference Playoffs last season and won the #1 overall seed in the NBA East this season simply because his team is struggling the past few games of the season and down 1-2 vs. a #8 seed in Atlanta that came into the playoffs with a losing record? What about Thibadeaux in Chicago? His team is down 0-2 after losing 2 games at home vs. Washington and Thibadeaux clearly doesn't value offense in the 4th quarter and overtime because he keeps Boozer and Dunleavy sitting on the bench and playing guys like Taj Gibson and Hinrich that have been terrible most of the season on the offensive end of the court? What about Mark Jackson in Golden State? Should his job really be on the hot seat?

                      I just don't get fan bases that give up so quickly on their coaches and key players.

                      In regards to Coach McHales employment situation at the end of the season, I expect Leslie Alexander will have to make an important decision on whether to renew McHale's option as McHale's contract technically is up at the end of this season. Alexander will probably receive some fan blowback and continued criticism going into the start of next season if he chooses to take the option of retaining McHale 1 additional year. As a true fan of the Rockets, my focus is on the hear and now. The Rockets must find a way to win Game 3 then we can see what may or may not be possible after that.

                      Edited by rocketrick, 25 April 2014 - 08:08 AM.

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                        Posted 25 April 2014 - 08:08 AM

                        dont know if this is kosher here, but this cyberx guy has called many things over on clutchfans

                         

                        his post

                         

                         

                         

                        With meetings with Morey after games McHale has been telling Morey and those around him that Sampson was the one who preached the defense AT practices and also made adjustments DURING games. Lucas has been trying to take the place of Sampson on the sidelines, but it has not been the same.

                        Morey understands making a change toward the end of the season should cause some confusion, but not like this.

                        Apparently Sampson kept Harden accountable.

                        Morey wants McHale to own up and is growing frustrated with the excuses.

                         

                        then another insider Codman said 

                         

                         

                         

                        CyberX is on to something, and as much as I'd like to contribute/clarify/affirm/deny his claims, I'm not sure how willing I am to get more of the nasty replies/hatemail/facebook messages that come with sharing info.

                        Our locker room is not doing well, guys. frown.gif The voices are few but many.


                        It doesn't matter either way, I guess. The majority of Rockets fans, including me, have called it all year. McHale was never built for this. I'm sure Morey was elated that we made it as a 4 seed, but I bet he peed himself a bit when he looked at Kevin's playoff experience/record.

                        I hope we can pull this out, but how disappointing for us as fans.

                        Love ya'll, the real fans.

                        and in response to "This is fairly different than what CyberX posted. Are you saying there is dissension among the players?"

                         

                         

                         

                        Sometimes, your relationship with your coach is part of playing the game.

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                        #36 miketheodio

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                          Posted 25 April 2014 - 08:13 AM

                          @rocketrick. it's not the fact that you lose, its how you lose. vogel definitely needs to be considered for the chopping block after such an abysmal collapse by that team.

                           

                           

                          pops? well it's pops. you know what you are going to get. they are going to play spurs basketball. they go out and play their game. they don't let the opposing team dictate their play style. they have an pretty clear identity.

                           

                          they wont fire thibs. you cant squeeze anymore juice out of that roster than he has.  their 1 option on offense is like a 3rd, 4th, or 5th option on any other team.

                           

                          jackson? maybe. tbh i haven't followed them all that much.

                           

                          success doesn't always determine if a coach will get fired or not.


                          Edited by miketheodio, 25 April 2014 - 08:19 AM.

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                          #37 rocketrick

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                            Posted 25 April 2014 - 08:16 AM

                            I don't think there is any bigger Rockets fan than me. being a fan doesn't mean I have to love everything the Rockets do. I like Morey, but he hired a bad coach. he is not above making human errors. Morey's built a good team, but handed the keys to the wrong man. McHale doesn't have a clue. let's have a mini review of his tenure as a coach since including his GM years would be overkill. I'll even stick to just the Rockets. McHale has been here for three years. his first year was the shortened season. he took what should have been a playoff team and proceeded to crash and burn at the end of the season while alienating the teams best player. year two......again the team was on fire at the end of the season losing to the Lakers the last game of the season and having to settle for the eighth seed. met OKC in the playoffs and if Westbrick doesn't get hurt we get sweep. However the basketball gods cut us a break and let us taste victory a couple of times before being dispatched. year three.......much better year however much better talent. still crashing at the end of the year. securing the four seed was much harder than it needed to be. during all McHale's time here his teams have all struggled with the same basic problems.
                             
                            1. poor late game execution
                            2. high turnovers
                            3. lack of energy.....not ready to play at tipoff/sleep walking through games
                            4. poor defensive rotations
                            5. offensive stagnation
                            6. poor execution after timeouts
                            7. end of quarter drop-offs in play/ we don't close out quarters well
                            8. lack of structured plays that we can lean on in a pinch
                             
                            sure all teams struggle with some of this stuff from time to time, but these are the hallmarks of McHale lead teams. I know some have excuses for some of the things we have endured the last three years, however excuses are for second place teams IMO. I have watched McHale get outcoached regularly even though he possessed the most talent laden teams. WHY are some teams more disciplined than others? COACHING. do you believe Pop would go for Harden ole' defense? his iso ball? we are not a team that's disciplined in the fundamentals aka the little things. McHale isn't putting the players in the best position to have success. every time I hear him talk it's the same old garbage.......the ball got sticky or we didn't get out and run.....no transition game......no easy buckets. fact is we need more than one way to win a game. you can't  fast break on everybody. some teams do a good job of getting back.......what then......iso ball? Howard in the low post? fact is our offense is elementary. many have admitted McHale isn't a good x's and o's man, but that's just the beginning of where he falls short of being a good coach. I propose he not a good leader of men


                            RBF and I have some interesting debates in the past and I give him credit for pushing for the D12 signing way before the end of last season as I was one of those that didn't feel he would be the right player for our team. I have since come around and am probably one of D12's biggest fans. All you have to do is go to the games in person and look into his eyes and you can see how focused he is on winning. He wants to win so bad it literally oozes off his body.

                            RBF has been one of those true fans of the Rockets who have been critical of McHale but willing to give him some kudos from time to time. Not enough in my opinion, but still, I appreciate anyone who is willing to look past their dislike of a coach or player, etc. and give credit where credit is due.

                            Now whether RBF is the biggest fan of the Rockets, well, that is debatable. I imagine there are more than a few people that are regulars to this forum that might make an argument otherwise. It's not really measureable and that's quite OK. There really should be more than 1 "biggest fan of the Rockets" anyway after all this franchise has endured over the years!

                            I think some of RBF's criticism of McHale is quantifiable and the rest is pure opinion and preference.

                            There will be more than enough time this off season to debate what the Rockets should do in terms of their Coaches and Players and I look forward to those discussions. Now is the time to climb on the tattered Rockets bandwagon and will our team to a victory in Game 3!
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                              Posted 25 April 2014 - 08:18 AM

                              @rocketrick. it's not the fact that you lose, its how you lose. vogel definitely needs to be considered for the chopping block after such an abysmal collapse by that team.
                               
                               
                              pops? well it's pops. you know what you are going to get. they are going to play spurs basketball. they go out and play their game. they don't let the opposing team dictate their play style.


                              Except when the #8 seed Dallas Mavericks destroyed them in Game 2 and outplayed them in Game 1 other than the last 4 minutes of the game which the Spurs are lucky to have won.
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                                Posted 25 April 2014 - 08:23 AM

                                dont know if this is kosher here, but this cyberx guy has called many things over on clutchfans
                                 
                                his post
                                 
                                 
                                then another insider Codman said 
                                 
                                and in response to "This is fairly different than what CyberX posted. Are you saying there is dissension among the players?"[/size]

                                Maybe the Rockets should hire this mysterious Cyberx person as he certainly "seems" qualified and "probably" knows more than Rockets leadership, etc.

                                Of course there's going to be some dissension in the lockerroom among players, especially after losing 2 heartbreaking home games in the 1st round of the NBA Playoffs. It's probably true Kelvin Sampson accepting the UH job and having to forfeit his position with the Rockets the rest of this season has had some negative affects with the Rockets. He was, after all, not just an Assistant Coach, he was Kevin McHale's Assistant Coach, meaning the #2 guy.

                                Edited by rocketrick, 25 April 2014 - 08:27 AM.

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                                  Posted 25 April 2014 - 08:24 AM

                                  Except when the #8 seed Dallas Mavericks destroyed them in Game 2 and outplayed them in Game 1 other than the last 4 minutes of the game which the Spurs are lucky to have won.

                                  their star players are about to go to the geriatric home. he's probably going to retire soon anyways.


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