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[Cooper]

You can't trade stars unless you're in danger of losing them, much too risky even for a bounty of picks it would basically be asking to get fired.

[PhillyCheese]

A proven starter replaced late in the year by an unproven rookie.  You guys really hate Lin that much?  Canaan had 4 t/o in less minutes and you think he played well overall?  Incredible.  Not to mention this was only one game.  By the way LAC was playing small ball lineup so who on the Rockets can guard Collison?  That is why Parsons had to be on Paul.  Man, Willie freaking Green blew by Harden a few times but no one mentions that. 

[rockets best fan]

@PhillyCheese

I don't hate Lin, but YES I do think just that little of his skillset.

[thenit]

I still think Lin should start its one game and he should get more oppurturnities than that.

[Steven]

Sorry for wanting someone with a ceiling above top 20 PG as a starter.

[PhillyCheese]

Well, we'll agree to disagree then.  I am looking forward to watching Lin go for 32 min every game and helping the Rox win.  Actually, I think Coach should put him in for 36.  and then in the offseason if the team trades him for better pieces, then so be it.  But right now they need him.

[Cooper]

None of the point guards on the roster are top 20 or even that close.

[Steven]

Well, we'll agree to disagree then. I am looking forward to watching Lin go for 32 min every game and helping the Rox win. Actually, I think Coach should put him in for 36. and then in the offseason if the team trades him for better pieces, then so be it. But right now they need him.

You want the Rockets to win, right?

[rockets best fan]

if I were the coach Lin would be so far down on the bench the waterboy has a better chance of playing

[PhillyCheese]

Yes I do.  It seems you take pleasure in seeing Lin fail, which in all likelihood the Rox will also lose because as much as you like to hope, Canaan is not a better player than Lin, even after his piss poor game yesterday.  You do want Rox to win, right?

[rockets best fan]

no one wants to see Lin fail......that's why I'm calling for reduced minutes........so we don't have to watch him fail

[Steven]

No, I'd wish the Rockets to lose. That's why I've been coming on this site for years to give the impression I am a Rockets fan, but in reality I am a Mavs fan who enjoys watching the Rockets homers squirm whenever they fail and we succeed. You are so smart to have figured me out.

And deep down I do truely believe that Canaan gives the Rockets team a better chance to win with the current players. Canaan is a better shooter, and Lin needs the ball in order to be effective, but harden is better and there is only one ball.

[PhillyCheese]

I guess that would make Beverley the waterboy then.

 

if I were the coach Lin would be so far down on the bench the waterboy has a better chance of playing

[timetodienow1234567]

So now Lin isn't even worthy of a roster spot? Lol.

[rockets best fan]

@PhillyCheese/TTDN

first off Beverley is no waterboy...........I don't know how you came up with that. maybe you felt like you needed to respond but you really didn't have anything to add. if someone was going to be moved to waterboy based on Lin's contributions to the team lately at least it would allow him to be useful

second......TTDN Lin isn't worth a roster spot on this team. I expect the Rockets to take care of that in short order once the season ends

[Ostrow]

The only reason I'd consider starting Canaan over Lin is because Lin is better with the ball in his hands.  In order to do that, Harden has to be off the floor.  Lin is clearly better than Canaan, but it could be a Harden/Thabo situation from a few years ago.  I see Lin currently, and in the future on this team, as a 6th man who comes in and provides instant offense.  The Beverley injury obviously affects the situation, but I believe that that is Lin's best role.

[Drew in Abilene]

I disagree with the prevailing opinion here. While it's true that we don't know Canaan's ceiling yet, nor do we know what his average will look like, I think that Lin is far superior to Canaan right now, and will almost certainly remain better than him for this season and next. I can't imagine Canaan, even if he were given the starting job or just extra minutes, outperforming Jeremy Lin. Lin has more experience, and I also believe, more potential to help Houston secure wins.

 

I have read through the arguments for Canaan starting, and as well-written as some are, I can't get behind the concept of tossing a second-round rookie who has had little more than a few garbage-time minutes into a starting role over a good player who knows the role better and has experience. 

 

Just as many posters here have vehemently argued that Lin fans drastically overvalue his talents and contributions, I would like to suggest that perhaps the forum as a whole has swung the pendulum too far in the other direction, and may now be drastically undervaluing what Lin brings to the table.

[Ostrow]

Again, posted this in a different location but...

 

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA  1m

After suffering a torn meniscus in right knee, Houston's Patrick Beverley won't need surgery and will return this season, sources tell Y.

[adonneus]

I've lurked here for long enough to know that I am much less knowledgeable about basketball than most people here, but I thought I'd give my two cents on my own experience of watching Lin on the Rockets.

 

I've realized that the reason I prefer other players to him almost always comes down to those possessions in which he jumps up with no plan and literally throws the ball away. If he ends up throwing it towards the hoop after looking around, it looks no different on the stat sheet than any other player missing a thought-out tough shot. However, it is just so much more frustrating to watch as a fan.

 

That said, I agree with Drew and think it's probably better for the Rockets for Lin to start over Canaan given the experience gap, but I'll probably be yelling at my TV a lot more than I would if Canaan started.

Edited by adonneus, 31 March 2014 - 05:41 PM.

[rockets best fan]

@Drew in Abilene

undervaluing Lin? interesting concept. base on the fact that his play recently by even the most optimistic view has been mediocre, exactly what does he bring to the table? turnovers? indecision? poor passing? horrible shooting? Drew enlighten me, what is it that you think he can bring to the table that Canaan will not. is it proper to continue with things as they are even when it isn't working? I think all of us have seen enough of Lin to know what we are getting and what we are getting is unfulfilling so why not try something else? I honestly feel Canaan can't be any worse than Lin so what exactly is it that you believe we are losing by making a switch?