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@  slick shoes : (12 December 2018 - 09:32 PM) We are now begging for Lakers scraps. My how the tables have turned.
@  slick shoes : (12 December 2018 - 01:36 PM) I'll be happy for Ariza if LA does end up signing him but it makes me sick that he'll go to a team that will probably end up faring better than us simply because we didn't want to ante up on the contract.
@  slick shoes : (11 December 2018 - 04:18 PM) CP's remark about a 7 game series sounds a little entitled as well at this point. Gotta make the playoffs to have a series, my man.
@  Mario Peña : (11 December 2018 - 03:22 PM) Yeah I wonder how hungry the team was this past summer relative to two summers ago. That Bahamas “workout” photo or wherever it was from looked more like a team thinking it would coast to 60 plus wins again.
@  Losthief : (10 December 2018 - 03:44 AM) p.s. the mirrors to our last run to the western finals is worrisome, we sucked the next year as well, then fired Mchale and jettisoned Howard.
@  Losthief : (10 December 2018 - 03:43 AM) @redfaithful y you gotta say things that hurt me...not that they are not true...just painful haha.
@  redfaithful : (09 December 2018 - 01:33 PM) If the Suns weren't in rebuild mode, the Rockets would be (rightfully) last in the west
@  thejohnnygold : (08 December 2018 - 06:55 PM) Meanwhile, Robert Covington, Marcus Morris, and Montrezl Harrell are out there being the exact players we need...for other teams.
@  slick shoes : (07 December 2018 - 01:44 PM) Who are we as a team any more? I don't think everyone has a firm grasp on their role within the system.
@  Mario Peña : (07 December 2018 - 06:46 AM) These Rockets will be lucky to make the playoffs and if they do getting to the second round would be something. It’s time to consider maintenance for CP3 instead of overplaying him.
@  slick shoes : (04 December 2018 - 03:33 PM) Gotta play Brandon Knight a few games before then.
@  thejohnnygold : (04 December 2018 - 03:28 PM) I have a hunch that Dec. 15th can't get here soon enough for Morey.
@  DenverRocket : (27 November 2018 - 01:22 AM) Jeez, our rotation is screwed without CP3. MCW seems to have forgotten how to play basketball. Hopefully, Brandon Knight can get fit soon.
@  Losthief : (22 November 2018 - 11:42 AM) depends on what we have to give up. He be a good fit in our system tho
@  slick shoes : (20 November 2018 - 06:56 PM) Any of you guys intrigued by Otto Porter Jr.? I know he has a pretty steep price tag but we were going to give up four first rounders and two players anyway....
@  redfaithful : (19 November 2018 - 09:26 AM) Crazy season: the difference in the L column between the first in the west (4 teams with 5 Ls) to #11-13 (3 teams with 8 Ls) is only 3...
@  Mario Peña : (16 November 2018 - 02:36 AM) That’s cool!
@  DenverRocket : (15 November 2018 - 10:46 PM) It was awesome. My boys loved it, got Clint's autograph, and lots of high fives by the tunnel.
@  Mario Peña : (14 November 2018 - 09:48 PM) I’m sure that was a great game to see live!
@  slick shoes : (14 November 2018 - 01:30 PM) I believe Talib took the jersey home. Looks like the ball is starting to finally go in for the boys in red. Couldn't have come soon enough.

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#1 rocketrick

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Posted 16 July 2018 - 12:10 PM

MCW has significant NBA exerience. Melton has like o.oo1% chance to beat out MCW to start the season..

 

The good news is that both will make the Rockets roster this 2018-19 season. MCW  will have more minutes to start the season through New Years Day IMO then let's see what happens (if anything) afterwards.

 

Melton could end up being a much better NBA player than MCW in the long run.

 

The Rockets are much more concerned about the short run and actual NBA experience (like I say all the time).

 

IF (and it is a Gigantic question mark today) MCW can prove to hit wide open 3's to start the season, he will easily solidify a key bench role going forward


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Posted 16 July 2018 - 12:13 PM

Nevertheless, D House IMO has proven his worth as a NBA role player moving forward. For various Rockets roster reasons right now, House is most likely to end up on another NBA team's roster very shortly. It is what it is.....


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Posted 16 July 2018 - 02:22 PM

We must also consider the possibility of a trade.  While Melton's potential is tantalizing, we are in a win-now mode.

 

Stealing Melton in the draft gave us a much better chance of swinging a deal that might include Ryan Anderson and his $40M baggage.

 

Looking around the league, there are really only two trades that make much sense to me (for both parties).

 

First, we send Anderson + Melton to Cleveland for K-Love.

 

Second, we send the same package to Sacramento because I think they can absorb the contract.  Basically, we give them Melton to take Anderson off our hands and get, maybe a 2nd rounder in return?

 

I'd still love to wrestle James Johnson out of Miami, but I doubt that is viable.

 

Personally, I like the Kevin Love trade.  I am far from his biggest fan, but he does upgrade the position and knows a ton about what it will take to topple the LeBrons and Warriors of the world.  Plus, I think D'Antoni, CP3, and Harden can coax the best out of him in a way that Lue/LeBron couldn't.

 

Of course, we can always keep Melton to ourselves and see what happens.  This draft may have been littered with "steals"--Porter Jr., Knox, Melton...I'm keeping an eye on Aaron Holiday, Zhaire Smith, and Miles Bridges too.  Plus, according to Mark Cuban, Doncic was the best player and "it wasn't even close".


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Posted 16 July 2018 - 05:11 PM

I don't think its inconceivable Melton gets minutes over MCW.  Might as well work in guy that might be able to do some things come playoff time over a guy we know cant, even if he provides a slightly higher baseline right now.

That Love trade would be interesting, the Cavs seem to think they will still be a playoff team but if they don't start well Love is probably up for grabs around the deadline.


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Posted 18 July 2018 - 03:50 PM

I actually like Melton. I just don't think 2018-19 is gonna be his year. All those teams passed on him in the Draft, I seriously doubt anyone is going to change their mind after 3-4 Summer League games against inferior competition. So trading him so soon seems out of the picture IMO.

 

I do believe that being on the right team at the right time makes a huge difference. My goodness, everybody doubted Eric Gordon when the Rockets signed him in Free Agency and after 2 years it is quite the opposite, right?

 

So my hope is that MCW is the right player on the right team at the right time. MCW certainly has proven he can be a very effective player in the NBA based on past history. 

 

If it doesn't work out, then the Rockets #4 guard position opens up for Melton (or a number of other possibilities going forward).


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Posted 08 August 2018 - 12:38 AM

https://bleacherrepo...-swap-discussed

 

So we known Atlanta is open to moving bazemore for a bit (and now bazemore has said he would welcome it to either mil/hou), but ATL wants the 2019 draft pick and a young asset. The pick is fine, that is probably going to be 28nd-32nd anyways...and we haven't drafted in the first round on our own pick since capela.....no big deal its essentially a high 2nd and you can buy a mid 2nd pretty easily which we do every year so 10-15 spots-ish drop is no big deal at all.  

 

But they also want a young asset. Which makes sense (see pick conv above) from there viewpoint. Article suggest Melton. Is that too high (he was 40 something pick this year but has potential), who else would you be okay with. Harenstien and Zhou seem like the other possible options. Is either enough for atlanta, too much for us?  

 

Could we instead do 2019 and 2021 draft picks. Is that too much/enough?

 

I be okay with one of Harenstein/Zhou more than melton/2021 pick personally. Mostly b/c we have Capela long term and the positional overlap between Zhou/Harenstein would eventually lead to playing time issues if both developed b/c Capela isn't going anywhere and is only 24 so that leaves only backup 5/starting 4 minutes for the future open. Melton on the other hand is a young asset at a position we only have older guys at (the wing, but thankfully ennis is only 28 and MCW is only 26 so we finally are getting younger) so that overlap does not exist and he could be seeing a lot of playing time as soon as a year or two out.


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Posted 08 August 2018 - 04:36 PM

https://bleacherrepo...-swap-discussed

 

So we known Atlanta is open to moving bazemore for a bit (and now bazemore has said he would welcome it to either mil/hou), but ATL wants the 2019 draft pick and a young asset. The pick is fine, that is probably going to be 28nd-32nd anyways...and we haven't drafted in the first round on our own pick since capela.....no big deal its essentially a high 2nd and you can buy a mid 2nd pretty easily which we do every year so 10-15 spots-ish drop is no big deal at all.  

 

But they also want a young asset. Which makes sense (see pick conv above) from there viewpoint. Article suggest Melton. Is that too high (he was 40 something pick this year but has potential), who else would you be okay with. Harenstien and Zhou seem like the other possible options. Is either enough for atlanta, too much for us?  

 

Could we instead do 2019 and 2021 draft picks. Is that too much/enough?

 

I be okay with one of Harenstein/Zhou more than melton/2021 pick personally. Mostly b/c we have Capela long term and the positional overlap between Zhou/Harenstein would eventually lead to playing time issues if both developed b/c Capela isn't going anywhere and is only 24 so that leaves only backup 5/starting 4 minutes for the future open. Melton on the other hand is a young asset at a position we only have older guys at (the wing, but thankfully ennis is only 28 and MCW is only 26 so we finally are getting younger) so that overlap does not exist and he could be seeing a lot of playing time as soon as a year or two out.

 

Hmmm, there isn't much to chew on in that Bleacher Report article--it's all pretty speculative.

 

Heck, it even went so far as to undercut itself and say that the Miami deal is more plausible right now.  I for one would prefer it.  Bazemore has the 3 pt. shooting, but either Johnson in Miami would help us against GS as well.

 

As far as an opinion on what asset we should give up out of Zhou, Hartenstein, and Melton...I'd have to go with Hartenstein.  I think he can be an NBA player and a starter on a bad team, but that's about as high as it goes for him.

 

Zhou oozes potential.  If we have to wait another year for him to put on weight then so be it.

 

Melton seems like a steal and I think we'd be crazy to swap him for Bazemore.


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Posted 08 August 2018 - 05:59 PM

Today I agree with JG that the Rockets should keep Melton over anyone else.

 

Still, I doubt Atlanta is hot for any of those guys. They just want a future draft pick or two and money IMO. Otherwise they could have drafted any of these guys before the Rockets chose to draft them. 

 

Melton seems like a steal and I think we'd be crazy to swap him for Bazemore.


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Posted 08 August 2018 - 06:57 PM

Obviously of course the trade Bazemore for Anderson in addition to the above. Bazemore still has 3 years left on his contract. Anderson only 2 more years. Makes me wonder if the Rockets perhaps could find a better trade in February at the NBA Trade Deadline?? Just wondering......


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Posted 09 August 2018 - 05:26 AM

Or buyout. Carroll if nets flounder seems like an option


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Posted 09 August 2018 - 06:37 PM

Or buyout. Carroll if nets flounder seems like an option

 

 

I don't know about Carroll.  I haven't sen him play since he was in Toronto, but let's not forget they had to attach not one, but two draft picks to him just to get Justin Hamilton back in return (who they waived immediately).  It was a salary dump, but if he was worth anything they would have kept him considering they have to face LBJ in the playoffs.

 

I'm not sure he is the player he once was defensively.


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Posted 01 September 2018 - 03:18 AM

And just like that, he's gone...


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