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@  slick shoes : (14 January 2019 - 09:21 PM) Clint out for a month!
@  slick shoes : (10 January 2019 - 11:52 PM) I would almost rather shelf CP until after the all star break to keep him fresh for a potential postseason run. Would be nice to get EG back sooner than later though.
@  thejohnnygold : (10 January 2019 - 10:22 PM) This has been a brutal stretch of games and we've handled it about as well as could be hoped for. It will be nice to cruise through a slightly softer part of the schedule for a while.
@  Mario Peña : (08 January 2019 - 07:14 PM) The Rockets smoked those Nuggets last night!
@  Mario Peña : (04 January 2019 - 06:49 AM) MVP!!!
@  redfaithful : (04 January 2019 - 06:44 AM) Wow, great great win
@  thejohnnygold : (03 January 2019 - 02:32 PM) I had to go look that up...then I remembered :)
@  slick shoes : (02 January 2019 - 08:37 PM) I'm with JG on this one. March 29, 1990.
@  thejohnnygold : (02 January 2019 - 04:13 PM) I may be biased, but Olajuwon keeps the title of greatest. Not only was he unstoppable offensively, but he was one of the greatest defenders the game has ever seen. Harden is not even close on that end of the floor...yet :)
@  slick shoes : (01 January 2019 - 09:20 PM) I have to concur, I have been pleasantly surprised with our play without CP. I still think we are a 2nd round exit at best without him but hopefully with careful maintenance the rest of the season he can be in uni when we need him.
@  Mario Peña : (31 December 2018 - 09:49 PM) Harden seems unstoppable right now. Maybe the most amazing Rocket of all time though I grew up watching Dream.
@  Mario Peña : (31 December 2018 - 09:46 PM) I had given up hope for the season but it looks like this team could gel. Nene’s presence seems more important that I had figured and I hope he stays healthy.
@  thejohnnygold : (30 December 2018 - 03:21 PM) We're on a pretty impressive stretch...makes me feel a little better about where we are as a team.
@  slick shoes : (21 December 2018 - 02:24 AM) CP going down (again) with a hammy is a big big blow. Barring jesus christ himself joining our squad, we are a 2nd round exit at best. Harden’s championship window just closed i’m afraid :/
@  Losthief : (20 December 2018 - 03:10 AM) and at 11 mil i think he clears for sure.
@  Losthief : (20 December 2018 - 03:09 AM) if he clears waivers we can just sign him at vet min no need to clear any space. Just will cost in luxury tax dollars.
@  slick shoes : (20 December 2018 - 01:14 AM) A Rivers is nice when featured, but I don't know that he is an upgrade over Knight at this point. Maybe if we can trade for cap space and bring him on for the vet min.
@  Losthief : (20 December 2018 - 12:24 AM) jabari was fine in mil w/ space, sucked in chicago...but thats a messed situation. Don't think its worth trading for tho...what do u guys think about our apparent interest in a. rivers?
@  slick shoes : (19 December 2018 - 04:31 PM) I also find it interesting that Ariza wouldn't even sit down with us this summer, then went to a rebuilding team and never really engaged there. Is it just about the money for him at this point? Is he playing the long game to get back to LA?
@  slick shoes : (19 December 2018 - 04:27 PM) I thought we were interested in wing DEFENDERS. I don't think we need any projects. This team needs to win now or we've lost our window.

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#1 rocketrick

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Posted 16 July 2018 - 12:10 PM

MCW has significant NBA exerience. Melton has like o.oo1% chance to beat out MCW to start the season..

 

The good news is that both will make the Rockets roster this 2018-19 season. MCW  will have more minutes to start the season through New Years Day IMO then let's see what happens (if anything) afterwards.

 

Melton could end up being a much better NBA player than MCW in the long run.

 

The Rockets are much more concerned about the short run and actual NBA experience (like I say all the time).

 

IF (and it is a Gigantic question mark today) MCW can prove to hit wide open 3's to start the season, he will easily solidify a key bench role going forward


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Posted 16 July 2018 - 12:13 PM

Nevertheless, D House IMO has proven his worth as a NBA role player moving forward. For various Rockets roster reasons right now, House is most likely to end up on another NBA team's roster very shortly. It is what it is.....


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Posted 16 July 2018 - 02:22 PM

We must also consider the possibility of a trade.  While Melton's potential is tantalizing, we are in a win-now mode.

 

Stealing Melton in the draft gave us a much better chance of swinging a deal that might include Ryan Anderson and his $40M baggage.

 

Looking around the league, there are really only two trades that make much sense to me (for both parties).

 

First, we send Anderson + Melton to Cleveland for K-Love.

 

Second, we send the same package to Sacramento because I think they can absorb the contract.  Basically, we give them Melton to take Anderson off our hands and get, maybe a 2nd rounder in return?

 

I'd still love to wrestle James Johnson out of Miami, but I doubt that is viable.

 

Personally, I like the Kevin Love trade.  I am far from his biggest fan, but he does upgrade the position and knows a ton about what it will take to topple the LeBrons and Warriors of the world.  Plus, I think D'Antoni, CP3, and Harden can coax the best out of him in a way that Lue/LeBron couldn't.

 

Of course, we can always keep Melton to ourselves and see what happens.  This draft may have been littered with "steals"--Porter Jr., Knox, Melton...I'm keeping an eye on Aaron Holiday, Zhaire Smith, and Miles Bridges too.  Plus, according to Mark Cuban, Doncic was the best player and "it wasn't even close".


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Posted 16 July 2018 - 05:11 PM

I don't think its inconceivable Melton gets minutes over MCW.  Might as well work in guy that might be able to do some things come playoff time over a guy we know cant, even if he provides a slightly higher baseline right now.

That Love trade would be interesting, the Cavs seem to think they will still be a playoff team but if they don't start well Love is probably up for grabs around the deadline.


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Posted 18 July 2018 - 03:50 PM

I actually like Melton. I just don't think 2018-19 is gonna be his year. All those teams passed on him in the Draft, I seriously doubt anyone is going to change their mind after 3-4 Summer League games against inferior competition. So trading him so soon seems out of the picture IMO.

 

I do believe that being on the right team at the right time makes a huge difference. My goodness, everybody doubted Eric Gordon when the Rockets signed him in Free Agency and after 2 years it is quite the opposite, right?

 

So my hope is that MCW is the right player on the right team at the right time. MCW certainly has proven he can be a very effective player in the NBA based on past history. 

 

If it doesn't work out, then the Rockets #4 guard position opens up for Melton (or a number of other possibilities going forward).


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Posted 08 August 2018 - 12:38 AM

https://bleacherrepo...-swap-discussed

 

So we known Atlanta is open to moving bazemore for a bit (and now bazemore has said he would welcome it to either mil/hou), but ATL wants the 2019 draft pick and a young asset. The pick is fine, that is probably going to be 28nd-32nd anyways...and we haven't drafted in the first round on our own pick since capela.....no big deal its essentially a high 2nd and you can buy a mid 2nd pretty easily which we do every year so 10-15 spots-ish drop is no big deal at all.  

 

But they also want a young asset. Which makes sense (see pick conv above) from there viewpoint. Article suggest Melton. Is that too high (he was 40 something pick this year but has potential), who else would you be okay with. Harenstien and Zhou seem like the other possible options. Is either enough for atlanta, too much for us?  

 

Could we instead do 2019 and 2021 draft picks. Is that too much/enough?

 

I be okay with one of Harenstein/Zhou more than melton/2021 pick personally. Mostly b/c we have Capela long term and the positional overlap between Zhou/Harenstein would eventually lead to playing time issues if both developed b/c Capela isn't going anywhere and is only 24 so that leaves only backup 5/starting 4 minutes for the future open. Melton on the other hand is a young asset at a position we only have older guys at (the wing, but thankfully ennis is only 28 and MCW is only 26 so we finally are getting younger) so that overlap does not exist and he could be seeing a lot of playing time as soon as a year or two out.


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Posted 08 August 2018 - 04:36 PM

https://bleacherrepo...-swap-discussed

 

So we known Atlanta is open to moving bazemore for a bit (and now bazemore has said he would welcome it to either mil/hou), but ATL wants the 2019 draft pick and a young asset. The pick is fine, that is probably going to be 28nd-32nd anyways...and we haven't drafted in the first round on our own pick since capela.....no big deal its essentially a high 2nd and you can buy a mid 2nd pretty easily which we do every year so 10-15 spots-ish drop is no big deal at all.  

 

But they also want a young asset. Which makes sense (see pick conv above) from there viewpoint. Article suggest Melton. Is that too high (he was 40 something pick this year but has potential), who else would you be okay with. Harenstien and Zhou seem like the other possible options. Is either enough for atlanta, too much for us?  

 

Could we instead do 2019 and 2021 draft picks. Is that too much/enough?

 

I be okay with one of Harenstein/Zhou more than melton/2021 pick personally. Mostly b/c we have Capela long term and the positional overlap between Zhou/Harenstein would eventually lead to playing time issues if both developed b/c Capela isn't going anywhere and is only 24 so that leaves only backup 5/starting 4 minutes for the future open. Melton on the other hand is a young asset at a position we only have older guys at (the wing, but thankfully ennis is only 28 and MCW is only 26 so we finally are getting younger) so that overlap does not exist and he could be seeing a lot of playing time as soon as a year or two out.

 

Hmmm, there isn't much to chew on in that Bleacher Report article--it's all pretty speculative.

 

Heck, it even went so far as to undercut itself and say that the Miami deal is more plausible right now.  I for one would prefer it.  Bazemore has the 3 pt. shooting, but either Johnson in Miami would help us against GS as well.

 

As far as an opinion on what asset we should give up out of Zhou, Hartenstein, and Melton...I'd have to go with Hartenstein.  I think he can be an NBA player and a starter on a bad team, but that's about as high as it goes for him.

 

Zhou oozes potential.  If we have to wait another year for him to put on weight then so be it.

 

Melton seems like a steal and I think we'd be crazy to swap him for Bazemore.


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Posted 08 August 2018 - 05:59 PM

Today I agree with JG that the Rockets should keep Melton over anyone else.

 

Still, I doubt Atlanta is hot for any of those guys. They just want a future draft pick or two and money IMO. Otherwise they could have drafted any of these guys before the Rockets chose to draft them. 

 

Melton seems like a steal and I think we'd be crazy to swap him for Bazemore.


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Posted 08 August 2018 - 06:57 PM

Obviously of course the trade Bazemore for Anderson in addition to the above. Bazemore still has 3 years left on his contract. Anderson only 2 more years. Makes me wonder if the Rockets perhaps could find a better trade in February at the NBA Trade Deadline?? Just wondering......


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Posted 09 August 2018 - 05:26 AM

Or buyout. Carroll if nets flounder seems like an option


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Posted 09 August 2018 - 06:37 PM

Or buyout. Carroll if nets flounder seems like an option

 

 

I don't know about Carroll.  I haven't sen him play since he was in Toronto, but let's not forget they had to attach not one, but two draft picks to him just to get Justin Hamilton back in return (who they waived immediately).  It was a salary dump, but if he was worth anything they would have kept him considering they have to face LBJ in the playoffs.

 

I'm not sure he is the player he once was defensively.


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Posted 01 September 2018 - 03:18 AM

And just like that, he's gone...


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