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[bboley24]

Since getting Ty Lawson I have a gut wrenching feeling that we are now one of those teams.

We just bought ourselves a championship team.

I know there are teams that have tried to buy themselves a ring ie. Clippers, Devon George Lakers, 2015 Cavaliers, NY Yankees and Boston Red Sox... and have not succeeded.  

 

It's sad really because I used to bash Lebron's greatness because of his supporting cast.  In this case I know Harden and Howard will go down as one of the greats but with much less criticism as Lebron thus it isn't as hard to take.  Lebron has the "is he better than MJ?" thing to live up to... (but MJ only did it with Scottie).
 

Are you all ok with us buying us a ring?

[Losthief]

yes....its a capped league so were not really buying anything...brooklyn was the last team to try and that did fail. We are only 6th in payroll right now which while certainly high is not ridiculous. Also we were 3rd or 4th lowest in cost per win last season, so we actually payed a low amount for wins. (Cavs and GSW were 1 and 2 iirc).

Edited by Losthief, 04 August 2015 - 07:14 AM.

[redfaithful]

There are too many players on this team's rotation that either started their NBA career here (Bev, DMo, TJones, Capela) or chose playing here when they had real options elsewhere (DH, Ariza, Brewer, Thornton). That's not buying a championship, that's running a good organization that uses money in the best way.

[Mario Peña]

How about this debate? Is throwing around the phrase "buying a ring" kind of hot take-ish? It's one of those local sports radio topics, at least it's reminiscent of something akin to that for me. Not trying to be annoying or argumentative but I have never felt that in this Harden era that the Rockets are trying to buy anything.

I was not aware of the statistics but I am enlightened by Losthief's post about cost per wins. It kind of makes sense considering Morey is the captain right? I think in the modern sports era there is much more nuance when debating payroll, free agents, player development and all the machinations surrounding long term franchise building than there was in the past like when I started watching NBA basketball in the 1980's.

[Cooper]

Buying a ring is a red hot take and is an dumb ideal in my view. Why is spending money you have a bad thing? Should the entire league just be the sixers and throw out a cheap garbage product but still rake in cash from tv revenues? 

[John P]

when I think of buying a team, I think of going out and spending on every free agent that is a good player, and putting together a frankenstein team that way.   The Nets push with KG, Pierce, Johnson, etc... is the perfect example.   

I am a total homer, but it feels like the Rox are simply building through draft and development (Bev, DMo, TJ, Capella), trading smart (Harden, Lawson, Brewer last year) and also signing good FA where they can (Howard, Smith last year, etc...).   

That is just good...no great, team management.  All players cost money and we are paying for good players, but I don't feel like we are just buying our way to a ring.   This has taken time, luck, and great GM management.  We haven't ever taken a short cut, unless you count signing Howard in FA, rather than building a center from the ground up.

The pieces fit together....assuming that Lawson fits next year.

 

Hell, even the spurs just bought LA.   The eternal internal development squad just made their best or second best player a FA signing.

[slick shoes]

How are we "buying a ring" in any way? we are under the cap and have not colluded with top tier free agents to join the same franchise and jumped into the luxury tax willingly? I do not understand this take at all.