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[thejohnnygold]

First i meant playoff series wins. Sorry

been following the rockets for a a long time, just because i don't response to an internet blog doesn't mean i'am not a fan.

i don't believe everything I read and that's why i never agree with you

but Harden is going into his 6th year and 3rd year as a rocket the time to prove himself is now.

 for you to say harden has not stood around and watch other players play defense is not true.

for you to say he hasn't made comments or done things on and off the court  that make us question his leadership is not true

i believe that it takes a team to win a championship. 

i'am not sure what you taking about by calling someone trash., but as you know i know Basketball and if you ever want to make it personal let me know so i can meet you and we can talk about it face to face.. 

 

 

Maybe by myself, but i do not like for people to call me trash.

Or question my loyalty, because i don't take the time to respond to every blog.

Man, normally i stay cool, but i guess the trash thing got me hot.

 

 

Let's keep this short and sweet.  Here is what I said:

 

 

 

This is not what Red94 is about.  It's a big part of what initially brought me here.  A real website, with real information, real analysis, and fans who know what they're talking about combined with a no tolerance policy for jerks and garbage information.  Let's keep it that way for as long as possible.

 

I am sorry you took that as being called "trash", but, hopefully, you can see that is not what was said.  Your response to my post is indicative of your stance on Harden--it's all conjecture based on singling out a few words without reading/understanding the entirety of the statement.  I can't help that.

 

I don't care if you agree with me or believe anything I write; however, you must understand I have a job to do--a role, if you will--which is to keep misinformation off of this site.  It is unbelievable how much of that there is.  I don't care if you want to dog on Harden--have at it.  I care that what is said is factually accurate.  Look, I understand that it is impossible for you to believe anything I write.  All those facts get in the way of what you believe is true--we can't have that.

 

It is clear that you prefer sensationalist journalism designed to goad people into a frenzy that is derived from mis-quoted, out of context, snippets that help form a contrived narrative because guess what?  There are currently a billion people in the world who are eating that up and a billion clicks means money.  Subscribe to it if you like, but don't think it is about real information.  It is a soap opera.  Look at this recent survey:

 

 

 

The only surprise there is OKC in Africa (maybe they are upset about Thabeet?  )

 

All that goodwill Jeremy Lin was supposed to bring to the Rockets backfired and it backfired quickly.  The entire continent turned on the team--and the players, coach, and GM.  This story has a unique bias to it and I don't have to say what and why that is--it is obvious.  Look at the sources of all these articles that keep perpetuating this story.  It's all smoke and mirrors.

 

Back to your response.  I did not question your fanhood--simply how long you had been a fan.  We have had a huge influx of new fans in the past 2-3 years for obvious reasons--it is not an out of line question and, once again, you took it out of context and twisted it.

 

On Harden, I absolutely say he has not done things to make me question his leadership.  I never anointed him in the first place.  Dwight, Beverely, and Parsons were the players I saw in that role--even Garcia.  James Harden?  What has he ever done to deserve that moniker besides having it placed squarely on his chest by everyone else?  Best player does not equal leader.  A common mistake.

 

Again, did not call you trash.  I did not make it personal--you did.  I appreciate your willingness to meet. I doubt that will be necessary.  I'm not big on the macho stuff.  It doesn't accomplish anything.  While I am sure it would be a charming interaction, I don't feel the need to say it to your face.  I'm saying it quite well right here.  

 

I also don't understand the concern about responding to a blog--nobody said anything about that except you--twice.

 

Since I totally screwed up the short and sweet part, let me try again.

 

People who participate in the spread of rumors, conjecture, and unfounded hatred towards this team will be met with an appropriate response.  A "garbage post" (which does not imply that the poster is trash) is one that does this.  It will not be tolerated.

 

I have read the forums/comments sections on many, many other sites.  I can tell you unequivocally they are all the same tired drivel that we work hard to keep out of here (mostly).  It's not about you--it's about keeping this site the best it can be.  This isn't high school and we do not tolerate gossip and rumors.

 

Have a nice day   

[thejohnnygold]

Just a little follow up to the D-Mo comments.  D-Mo himself had this to say about it all:

 

 

 

 

As reported by Houston Chronicle, Rockets forward Donatas Motiejunas said the context of his comments made in Lithuania on Friday were lost in translation. The problem, however, was not with translating Lithuanian to English. The confusion, Motiejunas said, came when taking comedy seriously. He said his comments that James Harden and Dwight Howard do not eat with teammates were clearly jokes in keeping with the sort of radio program in which he was interviewed, but that there were reported in Lithuanian media as if he was serious. “The radio show, the guys that work there, make fun of everybody,” Motiejunas, who called from Lithuania said. “It’s a funny radio show. Everybody in Lithuania listens. They told me to try to be funny, try to make the jokes. They told me to be free. They asked some question. I joked about one thing. I joked about the other thing. “They asked about the team. I tried to be funny. They asked how they (Harden and Howard) approach the team. I told them like, “Hey, they’re not with us. I stay alone.’ Then the journalists in Lithuania took the interrview and took it serious and posted my interview. I didn’t talk with no journalists. It was just a fun radio show.” 

Motiejunas, however, said he actually does often dine with his teammates, including Howard and Harden. “We never have problems,” Motiejunas said. “For example, last year Dwight invited me and other players to Thanksgiving dinner. James and Dwight bought us give us gifts for Christmas. We go to eat most of the all of the time. I talked with Dwight today. I talk to Dwight all the time. He said he understands. Me and Dwight, we communicate pretty good in the locker room. I never had a problem. -

 

 

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[Losthief]

ummmm.....why does it really matter what harden/howard say and whether teammates get along?

 

http://blacksportson...t-be-surprised/

 

here's some more: http://bleacherrepor...y-jordan/page/2

 

http://probasketball...im-at-practice/'

 

i mean...it's not like harden/howard punched anyone....

 

p.s. i could do this with others...but more clearly...when has it really ever mattered if you liked everyone you work with? I mean, i have had quite a few jobs, and I cannot think of one where I did not have at least one person I wasn't tight with.

 

p.s.s. some of my most accomplished teams i ever played for I got in multiple fights with teammates, and clearly didn't like them, didn't mean we didn't play well together/off each other. (soccer and basketball for those wondering).

 

p.s.s.s. (lets go through champions!)

1. I mean...tim duncan supposedly didn't talk to parker for a whole year at the beginning, and the guy is suppose to be like the 'best' teammate ever....

2. There's the whole mario chalmers thing with the heat...

3. the fued between rondo and allen is well documented...but even doc rivers wanted to fight rondo supposedly

 

So since the rockets won it all (which we can agree was awhile back now)

I mean you got the spurs (which ok, chemistry is huge there, but as raj says not repeatable really)

then you got friction between players on the heat....and thats not even including the supposed distance between bosh and lebron/wade.

then you got the lakers with kobe...and futher back kobe/shaq, and smush parker, and etc etc

then you boston celtics (see above)

then you chicago bulls (see above/jordan)

so that leaves...pistons (2004) and mavs (2009)...two one-time winners with special circumstances...and that pistons' team wasn't exactly made up of model citizens/teammates either until they played together. For that matter vince carter on the mavs wasn't exactly a model teammate early in his career.

 

So other than the spurs...which even that has some questions to its culture of inclusion....what champions had players who all got along with each other....or stars who always loved all the role players. Winning and being an awesome teammate have zero collaration really....on court chemistry doesn't necessarily depend on off-court chemistry, it might help but it is not exactly a requirement. 

[rockets best fan]

@Losthief

first off what's this a picture with clutch bear? you trying to swipe him from me on the slide?

 

second.......I think you have a valid point that it's not necessary for the whole team to sing koom-by-ya for them to play together. it doesn't hurt, but may be overblown as a factor within championship ingredients. we have a good locker room even without Parsons, so this is my area of least concern. 

Edited by rockets best fan, 10 August 2014 - 08:49 PM.

[Buckko]

JG I think Africa might be pissed at OKC for Ibaka, the only exceptionally good player from Africa as of now plays internationally for Spain. A theory I read off a comment section from a website with the same map.

[rockets best fan]

@Buckko

OKC only has one continent, we got two Europe and Asia. I'd say that makes us the villians  

[Buckko]

So when are we waging our eternal war against the east?

[rockets best fan]

I'd say tipoff of the NBA season at the latest

[Losthief]

@Losthief

first off what's this a picture with clutch bear? you trying to swipe him from me on the slide?

 

hehe...i've been using it since last year (i think early season but....can't remember anymore) but its whenever i got kinda of pissed off at the heat, so i found this one with clutch and a heat player where his shirt says 'im with stupid'. He can still be at your side...i'll just borrow him from time to time

[datruth]

@Jg

What did i say that was untrue we have not won a playoff series in some years.

by saying i made it personal you again have made it everything personal.

AGAIN I DON'T READ OTHER SITES, So i don't know what you taking about.

But since you always know what i'am saying please tell my son to gas the truck up before he brings it back home.

My point, you don't know me and I don't know you , therefore I will never tell you what you are thinking, because I don't know.

When you assume what a man will say or do then you make an (ass/ u/ me.)

[thejohnnygold]

@Jg

What did i say that was untrue we have not won a playoff series in some years.

by saying i made it personal you again have made it everything personal.

AGAIN I DON'T READ OTHER SITES, So i don't know what you taking about.

But since you always know what i'am saying please tell my son to gas the truck up before he brings it back home.

My point, you don't know me and I don't know you , therefore I will never tell you what you are thinking, because I don't know.

When you assume what a man will say or do then you make an (ass/ u/ me.)

 

I don't even know what to say here.  I can only assume we are experiencing a language barrier of some kind.  I have been clear.  Your inability to comprehend seems sincere.

 

This is not the first time we have had to do this:

 

 

 

To Johnny Gold.  First you need to know I love the game of basketball. I don't like it  when someone tries to speak for me. If you have doubts ask me a questions don't speak for me. I was happy that McHale allowed Lin to play through a tough game, but in the past that hasn't always been the case. So for you to make LOF's seem little, because they was happy that the kid was given a chance is crazy. Don't worry this is the last time I post on this site.

 

That was from December--another "misunderstanding".  This was my response to your post back then:

 

 

I have no doubts.  You confirmed exactly what I thought.

 

I don't mean to make LOF's seem little (I did compliment some of them in that same post).  I would like to curb the propagation of false information on a website for the Houston Rockets.  Not a single, credible source has ever been produced to validate the persecution of Jeremy Lin; yet, I have to read about it every day.  As a moderator, part of my job is to make sure the information brought to this website is true and accurate.  I treat all unsubstantiated information the same regardless of who it pertains to.

 

This is not to say that hearsay and rumor cannot be discussed, but it should be acknowledged as such.  It is important to maintain the credibility of this website in regards to its journalistic function and integrity.

 

If this is indeed your last post I wish you well and I hope you find another forum that makes you happy.

 

That statement still stands.  We are going in circles.  Please, figure it out.  If you bring contrived information that is not valid it will be dealt with.  That is part of the deal with this forum.  Respect it or don't post.  Respect it or find a place that is more tolerant of your views.  Respect it.  Please, just respect it.  This site is bigger than any one person and we will "prune the branches" to keep the tree healthy.  Not a threat.  Just a fact.

[bboley24]

James Harden houses multiple eagles within his bearded glory.  Conjecture?  No.  TRUTH.