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@  thejohnnygold : (14 September 2015 - 04:36 PM) A good article from Blinebury talking about when Hakeem and Moses used to play in the park. LINK
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#41 lin fan

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    Posted 02 May 2014 - 01:56 AM

    @JG

    I am not as wary of picking a fight on Lin. J-Lin is a mediocre PG. he had a good game last night, but will probably disappear for the rest of the series. this playoff series has lasted 5 games thus far. Lin has showed up in 1. so before the LOF's start rolling out the red carpet, they should spend a little time viewing Lin objectively. Rahat was generous in his assessment. had I assessed him he would look like bar-b-que :lol:

    Well he at least he proved one  criticism (which to be fair was a fair criticism until now) . That he cannot perform in Playoffs. That's one myth gone.  :)


    Edited by lin fan, 02 May 2014 - 01:58 AM.

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    #42 chantu

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      Posted 02 May 2014 - 01:59 AM

      @JG

      I am not as wary of picking a fight on Lin. J-Lin is a mediocre PG. he had a good game last night, but will probably disappear for the rest of the series. this playoff series has lasted 5 games thus far. Lin has showed up in 1. so before the LOF's start rolling out the red carpet, they should spend a little time viewing Lin objectively. Rahat was generous in his assessment. had I assessed him he would look like bar-b-que :lol:

       

      BBQ whoever you like.  The fact of the matter is that the rockets won.  Wanting to roast someone for being instrumental in winning is bad taste.


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      #43 Rahat Huq

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        Posted 02 May 2014 - 02:26 AM

        LOL.  I'm getting ripped by Lin fans after writing an article the thesis of which essentially was that Lin won the game and should be featured more.  Awesome!


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        #44 Cooper

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          Posted 02 May 2014 - 02:37 AM

          Rahat's just a frontman for those goofballs in the rockets organization holding Lin back!


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            Posted 02 May 2014 - 03:00 AM

            My point: A lot of people are wishing we had Lowry or Dragic instead of Lin, but if you swapped either one of them for Lin this past year I'm not sure anyone's numbers would be all that different.

             

            Jeremy Lin
            as starter for knicks 2011-12 (25 games, 34 minutes), 19.97 PER for season including time as bench warmer/injured
            18.2 pts, 3.7 reb, 7.7 ast, 0.3 blk, 2.0 stl, 4.7 to, 44.5/34.3/79.6

            Goran Dragic
            phoenix suns 2013-14 (76 games, 35.1 minutes), 21.43 PER
            20.3 pts, 3.2 reb, 5.9 ast, 0.3 blk, 1.4 stl, 2.8 to, 50.5/40.8/76

            Kyle Lowry
            toronto raptors 2013-14 (79 games, 36.2 minutes), 20.20 PER
            17.9 pts, 4.7 reb, 7.4 ast, 0.2 blk, 1.5 stl, 2.5 to, 42.3/38/81.3

            A few things to look at with your numbers:

            1) you are comparing 25 games in a lockout season to full seasons. Lin has to play a full season with his "Linsanity" numbers to be able to compare to players who play a full season. Lin also has to produce Lowery/ Dragic numbers in a non-lockout season where he played sparingly while other players were playing 5 to 6 games a week. Lin definitely looked fresher, during the first couple of weeks of Linsanity, than his opponents (a perfect example was when he played against a laker team that played 6 games in 7 seven nights). Players bodies were breaking down after 5 weeks of playing this amount of games. Lin's body broke down after about 4 weeks of these games.

            2) Since the Rockets play a style that emphasizes attacking the rim and 3's, Lowery and Dragic are above average 3 point shooters while Lin is below average, so they are more likely to have success in the rockets type of offense.

            3) Look at the Assist to Turnover ratio. Kyle Lowery and Goran Dragic each average more than 2 Assists to Turnovers. Lin, even during Linsanity, has never averaged more than 1.7 Assists to Turnovers. This is the biggest criticism of Lin. His decision making. He is an average at best playmaker and his mistake come to light most late in games. Even though his TOs per game went down this year, his TO% increased to the point he had the second highest TO% among PGs who play 16 minutes or more. Like Steve Kerr and Peter Vescey both have said, Lin's optimal position on a team is a score first 6th man. 


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            #46 PhillyCheese

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              Posted 02 May 2014 - 03:12 AM

              Firstly, I think reading comprehension and interpreting the tone of blog posts can be very difficult, as the visual cues of the writer are not apparent and sarcasm can be missed in the translation.  That said, I thought the blog was fairly complementary and some of you guys have to realise that just because it was not a gushing fanboy paragraph does not mean the writer hated Lin either.

               

              But I can understand where this heightened sensitivity comes from, on both sides of the argument. My take on this is that there are a few established members of this forum who like to focus on all the errors in Lin's game, and even when he plays well, getting any positive comments is like pulling teeth and comes with it the qualifiers which render the complements somewhat hollow and forced.  It's like they think the medicine tastes like crap but have to take it to get better, but they bad mouth the medicine, when the real issue is they wished they were not sick in the first place. 

               

              Then there are other posters who think they are objective but in reality they are not - eg when an overly positive post is given they will call out the poster for being a blind fanboy, but when an overly negative post is made they stay silent.  Sometimes silence is a better indicator than a post of a position taken.  So, if you want to post a long diatribe knocking one side, you better do the same with the other side, else you're not truly being fair.


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              #47 Willk

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                Posted 02 May 2014 - 03:15 AM

                Lin hasn't been inconsistent.  He has been inconsistently used. What he did in Game 5 was predictable from his performances in the other 4 games. During his first half stints in each of the prior 4 games, he has run the offense and shifted the score in Houston's favor because he has been every effective at getting the ball to the bigs and wing shooters.  When he has played limited minutes, he hasn't had quite the same impact.  The Rockets had no choice but to rely on Lin because Harden has been outclassed iby Wes Matthews, and Beverley is too ill to carry the load.  His 21 point effort is simply the product of McHale giving him more time on the floor to play his game.  He could've had 20 points in games 1, 2, or 3 if he had been given the minutes and shot attempts. The Rockets are now 2-1 when Lin gets 10 or more shots in a game in this series and should've been 3-0 (if they hadn't blow the lead that Lin helped them get in the Game 1 OT).

                The people that Rahat Huq should be focusing on are James Harden and Kevin McHale. Each has underwhelmed in this series.  Lin has delivered what he is supposed to for this team. He can be the team's 2nd or 3rd best player when given the opportunity.

                Lin has been inconsistent. His performances over the 4 games were poor. Prior to last night's game Lin was averaging 9 points. If Lin chooses to shot or not shoot that is up to him. McHale and Harden never tell him not to shoot. When Lin is on the court, his teammates do not keep the ball away from him. He touches the ball.

                Up until yesterday, Lin has struggled greatly when Portland's bigs were on the court. Lin's best game prior to yesterday was game 1 when he scored 7 points in OT. Robin Lopez fouled out in 4th quarter and LMA fouled out early on in OT of game one. That is when Lin played his best. Lin was MIA prior this going 2-7 for 7 points.

                Prior to yesterday, Lin was shooting under 40% from the field and 17% from 3.

                According to NBA.com Lin in the clutch (final 5 minutes of the game) is shooting 0% from 3, has 3 times as many TOs to Assists, and has +/- of -.8. None of this is good. If Lin is Houston's 2nd or 3rd best player, Houston is not going to the next round.

                After having said all of this, I am glad he played well yesterday because winning is the most important thing, not one man's stats.


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                  Posted 02 May 2014 - 03:30 AM

                  A few things to look at with your numbers:

                  1) you are comparing 25 games in a lockout season to full seasons. Lin has to play a full season with his "Linsanity" numbers to be able to compare to players who play a full season. Lin also has to produce Lowery/ Dragic numbers in a non-lockout season where he played sparingly while other players were playing 5 to 6 games a week. Lin definitely looked fresher, during the first couple of weeks of Linsanity, than his opponents (a perfect example was when he played against a laker team that played 6 games in 7 seven nights). Players bodies were breaking down after 5 weeks of playing this amount of games. Lin's body broke down after about 4 weeks of these games.

                  2) Since the Rockets play a style that emphasizes attacking the rim and 3's, Lowery and Dragic are above average 3 point shooters while Lin is below average, so they are more likely to have success in the rockets type of offense.

                  3) Look at the Assist to Turnover ratio. Kyle Lowery and Goran Dragic each average more than 2 Assists to Turnovers. Lin, even during Linsanity, has never averaged more than 1.7 Assists to Turnovers. This is the biggest criticism of Lin. His decision making. He is an average at best playmaker and his mistake come to light most late in games. Even though his TOs per game went down this year, his TO% increased to the point he had the second highest TO% among PGs who play 16 minutes or more. Like Steve Kerr and Peter Vescey both have said, Lin's optimal position on a team is a score first 6th man. 

                  This is an excellent rebuttal post.

                   

                  One consideration though - quality of the assist could be very different and sometimes a 1.7 a/t ratio might be better than a 2.0 a/t ratio if the assists are all on lay-up, alley-oops or three-pointers vs assist, or the turnover was in relation to getting these types of assists or does not result in the other team getting an easy transition basket.  Simply put, an assist where the rock is passed around the team from one player to another that results in a high flying dunk that energises the fans and teammates is worth much more than a simple dump off for an 18 ft jump shot.

                   

                  I think there was a recent study via Sportsvu on the return probability adjusted assist percentages of players which I found very interesting.  Unfortunately I do not have a link to share.


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                  #49 Dojinobli

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                    Posted 02 May 2014 - 04:20 AM



                    Has there ever been a more polarizing player?
                    You know how they have that "Hard Knox" show on HBO about pro football teams? Wish they had one for the Rockets. Then we could see what happens in the locker room. Is Harden jealous of Lin? is Howard jealous of Lin and Harden? Does McHale hate Jeremy? Does McHale know how to draw up plays? Will Doctor Ramoray's twin come back to marry the nurse who had an affair with the janitor? What a soap opera!


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                      Posted 02 May 2014 - 05:18 AM

                      A few things to look at with your numbers:

                      1) you are comparing 25 games in a lockout season to full seasons. Lin has to play a full season with his "Linsanity" numbers to be able to compare to players who play a full season. Lin also has to produce Lowery/ Dragic numbers in a non-lockout season where he played sparingly while other players were playing 5 to 6 games a week. Lin definitely looked fresher, during the first couple of weeks of Linsanity, than his opponents (a perfect example was when he played against a laker team that played 6 games in 7 seven nights). Players bodies were breaking down after 5 weeks of playing this amount of games. Lin's body broke down after about 4 weeks of these games.

                      2) Since the Rockets play a style that emphasizes attacking the rim and 3's, Lowery and Dragic are above average 3 point shooters while Lin is below average, so they are more likely to have success in the rockets type of offense.

                      3) Look at the Assist to Turnover ratio. Kyle Lowery and Goran Dragic each average more than 2 Assists to Turnovers. Lin, even during Linsanity, has never averaged more than 1.7 Assists to Turnovers. This is the biggest criticism of Lin. His decision making. He is an average at best playmaker and his mistake come to light most late in games. Even though his TOs per game went down this year, his TO% increased to the point he had the second highest TO% among PGs who play 16 minutes or more. Like Steve Kerr and Peter Vescey both have said, Lin's optimal position on a team is a score first 6th man. 

                       

                      My point is that all three PGs had much better stats when they weren't playing for Houston.  Houston already has Harden and Howard.  Dragic, Lowry, or Lin at best would be the 3rd option.  Agreed?

                       

                      And Beverly matches up very well with Harden since he doesn't take many shots and Beverly's defense makes up for Harden's lack thereof, which means even less minutes at the PG position.  Agreed?

                       

                      So any PG playing in Houston is going to get less touches, less shots, and less minutes than playing as the 1st option in Toronto or Phoenix.  Less touches, shots, and minutes equal less stats.  Agreed?

                       

                      By this reasoning, if we kept Dragic in Houston and Lin ended up in Phoenix instead, Dragic's numbers would be worse (with Harden, Howard, and Beverly in the fold) than his Phoenix numbers; and Lin's numbers would be better in Phoenix.

                       

                      But probably the only way to really see if this is true is if/when the Rockets trade him to another team.  I'm hoping that they keep him and figure out a way to integrate him in better, though.

                       

                      If anything, I think the biggest positive change we could make would be to replace McHale with Stan Van Gundy.  In my opinion, Stan is the best fit for our Rockets and probably the best coach out there without a team.


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                      #51 miketheodio

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                        Posted 02 May 2014 - 05:18 AM

                        LOL.  I'm getting ripped by Lin fans after writing an article the thesis of which essentially was that Lin won the game and should be featured more.  Awesome!

                        yes.

                         

                        Lin has to be one of the most bizarre players i've ever witnessed. it's incredibly hard to have an objective stance on his game play due to the volatility of his game. he can simultaneously save the day and ruin the day on any given night. not only that, you have to deal with explaining your points between lin fans and lin haters. even more odd, both people have evidence to support their points. sometimes it feels like it's not even his play that is the big deal. it's the hullabaloo (fan talk) after that makes it tough to deal with.

                         

                        one night he can ruin the game with a costly turnover (even though blowing a double digit lead IS a team effort), then the next he can make a bunch of tough shots and be a big reason the game is won.

                         

                        for the sake of being aggressive with the ball and getting ball movement, you have to play him minutes. you just gotta trust the guy and hope for the best.

                         

                        i like lin, but i can't come to any conclusion about him other than him being a paradox governed by confidence.


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                        Posted 02 May 2014 - 05:57 AM

                        @chantu/lin fan

                        I see both of you guys are new boots............if I haven't said it before WELCOME TO THE FORUM :) sometimes fans want a player to do well so bad that they loose objectivity when it comes to said player. when they view him they minimize his faults an over celebrate his achievements. their vision become clouded by their fascination with said player. there are a few exceptions, but most J-Lin fans are like that. they have lost touch with objectivity. I like J-Lin as a person, but not as a basketball player. some say that the pendulum has swung the other way with me......ie I dislike him so much I have also lost objectivity......that I magnify his faults and minimize his achievements. I have watched Lin for 2 years and have come to the conclusion that what happened in NY will probably never happen again. Lin is a mediocre player who had a very good run and parlayed that into a nice contract, however he doesn't have the capabilities to sustain that level of play. it's not McFail, his minutes, his teammates, or his role on the team.....it's his inability to sustain good play that keeps him out of games. I hear LOF's say all the time......well if he got more minutes he would perform better............are you serious? if he can't play well with the 20-25 minutes he's getting why in the world would we want to give him more? slow down I can hear it now some LOF is about to tell me that his stats show when he gets more than 35 minutes he performs better, however I would argue that stat is correct only because unless he's playing well he sure as hell ain't  gonna get no 35 minutes, so the whole premise starts from him playing well which he doesn't do nearly often enough. we are looking at J-Lin's ceiling right now. this is who he is..............a mediocre PG who struggles with confidence. it doesn't get any better than this. I'm sure some will rise to defend him from this post, but the fact remains that if his play did the talking he wouldn't need defending


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                        you can only warn a man that the bridge is out.....if he keeps driving he's on his own B)


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                          Posted 02 May 2014 - 06:21 AM

                          Rahat's just a frontman for those goofballs in the rockets organization holding Lin back!

                          Touché.

                          You should see him when he puts on the inflatable Clutch suit to scare the Rockets, just so he can get a few interviews.
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                            Posted 02 May 2014 - 06:25 AM

                            @RBF if you change wording they can't argue with you. Instead of Mediocre, call Lin below-average. Then broadcast the PER stat at which 15 is average, which Lin falls below for his career (minus the Linsanity days).
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                              Posted 02 May 2014 - 06:59 AM

                              @RBF  at least we agree one thing about Jlin - he's a good around guy, a man of strong Faith in God.   I'm not a rabid Lin fan who sees him thru rose color glasses; he's fallible, inconsistent, has confidence issues at times.  But he is what he is.  He's clearly the 6-man on the team, and can contribute mightily to the team.  If gets a couple more 15 point games with 6 assists, Rockets win the series.  I think this is the realm of possibility.  Who cares about PER, or labels of "mediocre" or "below average".   That don't win games.  Lin plays aggressive ... mistakes will happen, but that's what the coach wants of him.  I'm surprised no one's ragging on his defense (probably because it been pretty good).


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                              #56 miketheodio

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                                Posted 02 May 2014 - 07:26 AM

                                @RBF  at least we agree one thing about Jlin - he's a good around guy, a man of strong Faith in God.   I'm not a rabid Lin fan who sees him thru rose color glasses; he's fallible, inconsistent, has confidence issues at times.  But he is what he is.  He's clearly the 6-man on the team, and can contribute mightily to the team.  If gets a couple more 15 point games with 6 assists, Rockets win the series.  I think this is the realm of possibility.  Who cares about PER, or labels of "mediocre" or "below average".   That don't win games.  Lin plays aggressive ... mistakes will happen, but that's what the coach wants of him.  I'm surprised no one's ragging on his defense (probably because it been pretty good).

                                at the end of the day you just hope everybody steps up and makes plays. that is what it takes in the playoffs to win. role players have to step up to cover some deficiency that strays the team from the game plan. this is one of the reasons it was great watching the wizards. of course beal and wall come up, but nene, gortat, and ariza all had their moments. it truly takes everyone to win in these types of games.


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                                  Posted 02 May 2014 - 11:23 AM

                                  Whats happening everybody .. .all the way from England

                                   

                                  WOW.. ive read a loads of post over the couple years on here but never wanted to write something but damn.. Jeremy has got all you guys tangled up.

                                   

                                  My opinion is this (not that anyone gives a f***)

                                   

                                  Jeremy has got talent simple as that .. he can ball. To say he is mediocre is just false. his basic skill set is actually not just drive to the rim and only go to his right. He can actually finish with his left and his playmaking is under rated and his defence isnt as bad as first made out

                                   

                                  Confidence is his biggest flaw.... As a strugling professional athlete myself (football or soccer for you lot), confidence is the biggest factor in inconsistency ..Rahat is completley correct. 

                                   

                                  I dont wanna delve to deep and try and go into Jeremy's head but, with his roller coaster career so far and his fans and haters his confidence will be the same .. up and down simple as that. (probably needs to see a psychiatrist)

                                   

                                  but blaming it on his skill set is just wrong. 

                                   

                                  Another thing is as strongly as you feel about Lin love or hate ... to say that this is an athletes ceiling is way of the mark especially J lin a player with tremendous upside .. thats just a poor statement how are you to know? players are always improving especially at his age

                                   

                                  ok 

                                   

                                  Peace 


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                                  #58 Rahat Huq

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                                    Posted 02 May 2014 - 12:49 PM

                                    Nice seeing all of the new faces.  I really wish I had more time to interact in here but have been swamped at work of late.  

                                     

                                    A couple of things: 

                                    -A friend informed me that sarcasm does not translate well in certain demographics.  While perhaps I should be more mindful of that, I have an overwhelmingly American audience and so, I don't intend to water down my writing style to make it more suitable for more eyes.  But just as a clarification, when I said in the post that "Lin sucks, I know", it is actually meant as a defense of Lin - I'm trolling the overly negative attitude towards him.

                                    -Same goes for Twitter where many of you follow me.  I'm much more over the top there because I'm live-tweeting and trying to have fun while we all enjoy the game.  

                                    -The oldheads, for the most part, are correct.  I have a nuanced stance on Lin, as I or any reasonable adult should have regarding any topic.  I think he's one of the most physically gifted point guards in basketball; I think his work ethic is near unparalleled among players on this team (as evidenced by his improved left hand and shooting form); I think he should be featured more in the offense, and I think the Blazers have not shown the ability to keep him from getting to the rim; I wrote last year that I felt McHale was giving him an unfair shake, before anyone else had publicly made that point.  Despite all of this, strangely, it seems that unless I proclaim Jeremy Lin as infalible and the second coming of Christ, I will draw the ire of his contingent of supporters.  As with anything - there is good and bad: I outlined some of his flaws in the opening post.

                                     

                                    But I like Jeremy.  He's a good kid and a good story.  


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                                      Posted 02 May 2014 - 01:06 PM

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                                        Posted 02 May 2014 - 01:35 PM



                                        Peace out y'all. We all like it if Lin plays well, because that means we might see game 7 back in Houston.

                                        Rahat's article was perfect, not too excited about what could be a flash in the pan, stating all the correct well established points, giving credit where credit was due in game 5, delivered with exactly the right amount of spice considering how hot this topic has been. So yeah keep it up.

                                        Volatility is exactly what Lin is. Swish 3 pointer followed by airball to finish the half? I love the guy for what he managed to do in NY, his devotion to his craft and work ethic but man don't I wish he was a little more consistent. Anyway I just took a chance to post about Lin because I'm on a moratorium against it given how overcovered the topic is.

                                        Hope Rockets understand what needs to be done later today. GO ROCKETS!


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