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Junior Member
Posted 06 May 2014 - 08:06 PM
I think we really need better 3PT% guys. Assuming no big deal is done, I wouldn't mind trying for Jordan Farmar or Mike MIller. Make the defenses stop dropping help into D12. With the bulk rate 3's we take, have a couple larger percentage guys would be phenomenal.
Others I like:
Anthony Morrow
Patty Mills
Avery Bradley
Jimmer Fredette
Just to name a few. Avery and Farmar are above avg defenders, as well.
A decent backup to the PF would be nice as well - some games TJ just wasn't in it.
Veteran
Posted 06 May 2014 - 08:14 PM
Why so Serious? 
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Posted 06 May 2014 - 09:07 PM
all we have to do to get Melo is sic Parsons on him 
you can only warn a man that the bridge is out.....if he keeps driving he's on his own 
Rookie
Posted 07 May 2014 - 12:53 AM
@FSS
I don't know if I can take another year of Lin
@Buckko
it's going to take a lot more than Lin to get Melo. Lin's cap figure is only 8.3 mil......Melo's is 23 mil. the Rockets only have about 5 mil difference they can play with in a trade. they must match within that 5 mil in salary. even if Melo signs for let's say 21 mil, the Rockets would have to send NY 16 mil in contracts to make the trade work because of the fact NY has no cap room. so at a very minimum Lin/Asik will be required. I could see a three team trade where NY, Boston and Houston make a deal that looks something like this
Houston sends Lin + Asik + D-Mo or Parsons + 2014 1st + 2016 1st to NY
NY sends Melo to Houston and Tyson Chandler to Boston
Boston sign and trade Bradley to NY + send future 1st the NY
remember it takes two to tango. if the other teams involved have no benefit what would motivate them to do a trade? you don't get something for nothing. if we get Melo you can bet it will cost. NY may not be in position to demand a king's ransom, however a prince or duke's ransom is not out of the question
Well, if Boston is willing to give up Bradley, I would get him instead.
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Posted 07 May 2014 - 02:36 AM
@08huangj
Bradley over Melo? or just Bradley in some other deal? because if you mean Bradley over Melo I couldn't disagree more
you can only warn a man that the bridge is out.....if he keeps driving he's on his own
Junior Member
Posted 07 May 2014 - 03:43 AM
I really like that you brought up Patty Mills. He is an above average defender and a great 3 point shooter.I think we really need better 3PT% guys. Assuming no big deal is done, I wouldn't mind trying for Jordan Farmar or Mike MIller. Make the defenses stop dropping help into D12. With the bulk rate 3's we take, have a couple larger percentage guys would be phenomenal.
Others I like:
Anthony Morrow
Patty Mills
Avery Bradley
Jimmer Fredette
Just to name a few. Avery and Farmar are above avg defenders, as well.
A decent backup to the PF would be nice as well - some games TJ just wasn't in it.
Junior Member
Posted 07 May 2014 - 03:47 AM
I also like Darren collison. Averaged 24 mins per game 11.5 points. Above average 3 point shooter. Played backup PG/SG. Also started at PG when CP3 was injured and at SG when Redick was injured. Above average defender and does not turn the ball over. Top 5 in PPS.I just went and perused the free agent list....lots to like in the mid-range salary level. Also quite a few impact players available like Eric Bledsoe, Lance Stephenson, Ariza, (I'm not counting Lowry--sorry), Pau Gasol (unlikely), Darren Collison (if he opts out...he's played really well this season), Luol Deng, and Mike Scott (Who????? He's buried on Atlanta's bench behind Millsap, but the guy is a tough stretch 4 who can score inside and out. I like him)..there are plenty of others....a team like Houston is set up to capitalize in this free agency period. If we empty the cupboard trading for Melo there's lots of cheap options available to fill in the gaps. If not, there are excellent mid-level options to solidify what we've already got.
Rookie
Posted 07 May 2014 - 06:05 AM
@08huangj
Bradley over Melo? or just Bradley in some other deal? because if you mean Bradley over Melo I couldn't disagree more
I didn't say I would take Bradley over Melo. But if you're going to give up Lin, Asik, Parsons or D-Mo, and 2 first round picks for Melo, it's just too much. I would say trade for Bradley with another trade.
Rookie
Posted 07 May 2014 - 06:06 AM
I would do your hypothetical trade if you minus those 2 first round picks. They're just way too valuable.
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Posted 07 May 2014 - 06:17 AM
08huangj
those two first round picks have little value. the Rockets finished tied for the sixth best record in the league this year which at best puts this years pick at 24. based on the fact that the Rockets are bent on improving their record next year and again in 2016 their draft picks will be useless when compared with the benefit of having Melo
Edited by rockets best fan, 07 May 2014 - 06:18 AM.
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Rookie
Posted 07 May 2014 - 10:06 AM
08huangj
those two first round picks have little value. the Rockets finished tied for the sixth best record in the league this year which at best puts this years pick at 24. based on the fact that the Rockets are bent on improving their record next year and again in 2016 their draft picks will be useless when compared with the benefit of having Melo
Melo is a great scorer, yes. He's good at getting the rebound, yes. But,you also have to remember there are also consequences in getting Melo. Melo's defense sucked in New York, maybe not in Houston. We simply can't have 2 players in the starting team who don't play defense. We also have 3 elite players who want to go hero ball and play isolation. Does he even fit in the Rockets offensive/ defense system? I don't know: I don't think so. I'm not saying that Melo will bring more negatives than positives, but he does have some problems.
Rookie
Posted 07 May 2014 - 10:11 AM
And, in my opinion, any first round pick is valuable. Role players(Lin) are valuable. Bench players(D-Mo) are valuable. Asik is really valuable. Your hypothotical trade is just not worth it for the Rockets. Melo isn't worth that much. And remember that Melo is not perfect: He has consequences. And if ya wanna trade for Melo, you gotta fill in the other spots, too. I'm not really high on Isaiah Canaan or Jordan Hamilton. And I don't think D-Mo should play center. He should be playing the 4.
Senior Member
Posted 08 May 2014 - 02:19 AM
Edited by Buckko, 08 May 2014 - 02:19 AM.
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Posted 08 May 2014 - 05:38 AM
@08huangj
I disagree. late first round draft simply don't have the appeal they use to. the draft is a crap shoot to begin with. the chances of a team getting an impact player that late are slim at best. high second round picks are valued more because of the flexibility in contracts teams can offer over late first rounder's.
I don't believe the Rockets are to worried about their first round pick in the context of bringing in more young talent. right now our first round picks are trade bait. whether we chase Melo, Rondo, Lowrey, Lebron, Bosh or even Wade we will more than likely have to do so via trade. at this point we must see our next few picks as trade grease to turn the wheels of a trade
you can only warn a man that the bridge is out.....if he keeps driving he's on his own
glad you're on board, but I been on this boat since it left
Posted 08 May 2014 - 07:50 AM
@08huangj
another reason we likely will move our picks is we will more than likely have to send at least one first rounder to get rid of Lin. Asik has value. I don't see any problem moving him. we didn't move him earlier this year because our asking price was to high, however we still could have moved him if we desired. Lin on the other hand is a whole different ballgame. considering his contract and his play........it's going to take draft considerations
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