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[Buckko]

Honestly it depends wether we are winning or not.

[thejohnnygold]

No let's seriously discuss this. How much do you think Beverley will get re-signed for? I think it will be around $6m per year. You should be comparing Beverley's next contact to Lin's, not his rookie contact.

 

I am not even sure Bev gets re-signed.  I'm not even sure why this is being asked since my comparison was between Beverley and George Hill--not Lin.  The whole thing revolved around (what I thought at the time) was a trade of Bev for Hill (It seems RudyT was talking Lin for Hill, but that's another story).  This made no sense to me as they perform similar functions and one is currently priced much cheaper.  You can hate that all you want, but Morey seems to find it very important.  Signing guys like Dwight and Harden make it very important.  We will not be moving forward with both Lin and Beverley unless they are willing to take discounts and sign under their market value--anyone who thinks otherwise is not seeing the big picture here.

[Cooper]

I could see both Lin and Beverly not being retained.

[Mason Khamvilay]

I am not even sure Bev gets re-signed.  I'm not even sure why this is being asked since my comparison was between Beverley and George Hill--not Lin.  The whole thing revolved around (what I thought at the time) was a trade of Bev for Hill (It seems RudyT was talking Lin for Hill, but that's another story).  This made no sense to me as they perform similar functions and one is currently priced much cheaper.  You can hate that all you want, but Morey seems to find it very important.  Signing guys like Dwight and Harden make it very important.  We will not be moving forward with both Lin and Beverley unless they are willing to take discounts and sign under their market value--anyone who thinks otherwise is not seeing the big picture here.

Rookie contracts don't last forever, just don't forget to account for that fact in your big picture. If I had the choice between retaining Beverley for $6m or Lin for $8 I would choose Lin in a heart beat, not because I'm bias I have no reason to be, but because Lin is a much better player and the better fit for us with his ability to play 2 positions. Beverley would be much easier to replace at a low cost.

[thejohnnygold]

Rookie contracts don't last forever, just don't forget to account for that fact in your big picture. If I had the choice between retaining Beverley for $6m or Lin for $8 I would choose Lin in a heart beat, not because I'm bias I have no reason to be, but because Lin is a much better player and the better fit for us with his ability to play 2 positions. Beverley would be much easier to replace at a low cost.

 

Thanks.  I didn't then and I seldom do.  Much like reminding people of small sample sizes I didn't think I needed to go over this aspect of the idea since it seems like common sense.  As to which I would choose--I'm in a wait and see mode.  There is a long time between now and when that decision gets made plus the chance that one of them winds up in a trade.  Given how our roster is shaping up, I feel like we will most likely be making a trade next Summer or at next year's trade deadline so that we can make room to re-sign the guys we need to re-sign....sadly, we have too many good players and I don't see how we can keep them all. 

[Mason Khamvilay]

If we're winning championships then Leslie will pay the taxes, I don't see Beverley leaving via FA.

[vonsteve]

There's a point when you have to stop moving around players and start letting the players you have gel together over the long term. I'm not saying we should stop looking at ways to improve, but stability matters too.

[RudyT1995]

(It seems RudyT was talking Lin for Hill, but that's another story). 

 

Lol.  I think this is my third time trying to clarify this.

 

I never proposed a Lin for Hill trade.  I started by saying that we should not trade Lin.

 

George Hill's name only came up later as an example of the type of PG who had the size, length, and game that, in my opinion, would complement Harden best.  But I never proposed acquiring the actual George Hill.   I never proposed a trade involving anyone on our roster for Hill.  

 

I normally don't go this far out of my way to explain myself, but I felt that I needed to do it one more time given what JG wrote above.  

Edited by RudyT1995, 29 November 2013 - 10:21 PM.

[thejohnnygold]

Ha, I guess I really was way off.  Sorry.  I read too many posts at once and tried to respond without re-reading.  I just went and re-read them...it's tricky and at times it seems implied, but you're right.  You never expressly said that so my apologies.