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[Richards]

THE ROCKETS

Yeah. Let him come and rock our boat. 

[rockets best fan]

Yeah. Let him come and rock our boat. 

why would he rock our boat?

[phaketrash]

I'm sure he means it in a good way! Rocking out on the Rockets boat! I think D12 would be great on this team. Would be ecstatic if we got him.

[mannythegoat]

I just want to be perfectly clear: Dwight. Howard. Is. NOT. Coming. To Houston.

Ok? Let it go.

Aside from that. We probably shouldn't want him all that much. Asik has done nothing but improve since the second he got here. There's no reason at all to not want to see how far he can go. Especially at only 8 and change per. And no, Dwight and Omer can't work on the same team. Not in today's NBA. But even if they could, do you really think Howard is going to be comfortable just tucking in as second fiddle on Harden's team? Because I really, really don't. Look, I want another superstar as much as anyone, but Dwight is not even close to an ideal fit. And CP3 isn't leaving the Clippers.

Josh Smith. Paul Milsap. Earl Clark. David West. Brandon Jennings. All more affordable. All better fits.

[rocketrick]

Plus Kevin Garnett, Pau Gasol, perhaps Ersan Ilyasova, a number of other players that are quite likely on Morey's radar that we have not even considered.

[rocketrick]

I'm sure he means it in a good way! Rocking out on the Rockets boat! I think D12 would be great on this team. Would be ecstatic if we got him.

Dwight Howard is nothing but a cancer to a team and it's organization. I want nothing to do with the world's largest crybaby.

[phaketrash]

Dwight Howard is nothing but a cancer to a team and it's organization. I want nothing to do with the world's largest crybaby.

 

I have to disagree. I think he's immature and broods, but he's also an unquestionable talent and not that bad. I don't worry too much about a bad personality when the organization/structure in place is good. Besides, winning tends to get rid of whiny personalities. They tend to manifest when you're losing and frustrated...but if we're already losing, I tend to care less about his antics haha.

[Rahat Huq]

I just want to be perfectly clear: Dwight. Howard. Is. NOT. Coming. To Houston.

Ok? Let it go.

Aside from that. We probably shouldn't want him all that much. Asik has done nothing but improve since the second he got here. There's no reason at all to not want to see how far he can go. Especially at only 8 and change per. And no, Dwight and Omer can't work on the same team. Not in today's NBA. But even if they could, do you really think Howard is going to be comfortable just tucking in as second fiddle on Harden's team? Because I really, really don't. Look, I want another superstar as much as anyone, but Dwight is not even close to an ideal fit. And CP3 isn't leaving the Clippers.

Josh Smith. Paul Milsap. Earl Clark. David West. Brandon Jennings. All more affordable. All better fits.

1. Why isn't he coming?

2. Why would we not want him?  With all due respect to Omer, a good game for him is pretty much a bad game for Howard.  More importantly, those catches he fumbles off the pick&roll are Howard dunks.  

3. "Especially at only 8 and change per." - If you can flip Omer for something else, then that's pretty good allocation of your money.

4. Second fiddle - I believe he left Orlando so that he wouldn't have to be "The Man."  He wants a 1a/1b situation.  

[rocketrick]

1. Why isn't he coming?
2. Why would we not want him?  With all due respect to Omer, a good game for him is pretty much a bad game for Howard.  More importantly, those catches he fumbles off the pick&roll are Howard dunks.  
3. "Especially at only 8 and change per." - If you can flip Omer for something else, then that's pretty good allocation of your money.
4. Second fiddle - I believe he left Orlando so that he wouldn't have to be "The Man."  He wants a 1a/1b situation.

Then why was Howard and Kobe at odds for most of the season? And why are the Lakers with Kobe, Steve Nash, Dwight Howard, Pau Gasol, Ron Artest (or the other dude he likes to call himself) are struggling to even make the playoffs? I put a big part of the blame on Dwight Howard.

Good point though about all the drops at the bucket by Omer. I do believe more time off-season together will do wonders though. If Hakeem is able to teach certain players new offensive moves, why can't he give Omer some insight into becoming more successful at receiving the pass and finishing at the hoop. Omer had a couple of monster dunks last night against Randolph and Gasol so he certainly is capable.

Lastly though, why wouldn't the Lakers go ahead and bite the hand that feeds them and basically turn the keys of the franchise over to Dwight Howard especially now that Kobe is going to miss some or a good portion of next season? I expect to see a major shuffle of the roster, perhaps even another coaching change, whatever it takes to convince Howard he is the man now in LA LA land. Don't forget, LA holds the cards on paying Howard max money for 5 years, nobody else in the NBA universe can come close to matching that. Howard in my opinion is greedy, he wants it all, the rings (without having to work for it) and the money and the glory.

[rocketrick]

Meant to say in that last paragraph that the Lakers will go ahead and feed the hand that bites them.........

[rocketrick]

I have to disagree. I think he's immature and broods, but he's also an unquestionable talent and not that bad. I don't worry too much about a bad personality when the organization/structure in place is good. Besides, winning tends to get rid of whiny personalities. They tend to manifest when you're losing and frustrated...but if we're already losing, I tend to care less about his antics haha.

Last I checked, the Lakers had a pretty strong organization in place and Dwight Howard seemingly has enjoyed blowing things up there. That's what he does best, well that and missing free throws at a staggering rate, I suppose.

[Rahat Huq]

Then why was Howard and Kobe at odds for most of the season?

Total personality clash.  Kobe couldn't even get along with Shaq, who was pretty much just a normal dude and had no problems with anyone else (Lebron, Penny Hardaway etc.). 

[Mason Khamvilay]

I think there was like  99.9% chance Dwight was staying in L.A. until Kobe tore his achilles, but now I'm wondering if Kobe's injury changes things. Dwight loves L.A. but does he love it enough to miss the playoffs two seasons in a row?

[timetodienow1234567]

The Kobe injury gives Dwight the excuse he needs to leave and save face(or whatever face he has left).

[Richards]

Howard is a great talent. Nothing more, nothing less.

 

He never proof that he was a good teammate. Many times he whined and blamed on others (teammate, coaches, and organization).

Did you all remember Howard saying his Magic teammates are bunch of players nobody wanted. He pushed SVG out. Now he is holding Lakers hostage.

 

Do you really think he will change? I don't think it is a good idea to buy a cancer.

[Cooper]

Dwight saying the magic had players nobody wanted isn't completely off base, the second best player on the team they went to the ecf with was hedo turkoglu and look where they're at now in wins. It wasn't the right way to say it or even really the right thing to say but doesn't mean it's not true.

[Mason Khamvilay]

I think fans in general tend to make way too big of a deal about the "attitude" of players. Rodman and Artest are two of the biggest headcases we have ever seen in the league, and they are also winners of the DPoY award--something Dwight also has in common. Say what you want about Dwight's attitude, but he works hard and wins basketball games. That year he led the Magic past the 66 win Cavs was incredible. Maybe Dwight was an ass to imply he didn't have much to work with in Orlando but lets be honest--he didn't. I highly doubt he will have any qualms about not having enough help in Houston, if he comes here Houston won't have a problem--Houston will be the problem.

[Richards]

No question D12, MWP, and Rodman are talented and great players.

 

MWP and Rodman bullied other teams. They are "badder" than D12 but they don't disrupt their own team and happy to be a second fiddle.

D12 is a biggest diva. He wants to pick his own coach, he wants offense to go through him. That worry me a lot. I am not sure he will give up money or share the fame with others to chase the ring like Lebron does.

[rocketrick]

I think fans in general tend to make way too big of a deal about the "attitude" of players. Rodman and Artest are two of the biggest headcases we have ever seen in the league, and they are also winners of the DPoY award--something Dwight also has in common. Say what you want about Dwight's attitude, but he works hard and wins basketball games. That year he led the Magic past the 66 win Cavs was incredible. Maybe Dwight was an ass to imply he didn't have much to work with in Orlando but lets be honest--he didn't. I highly doubt he will have any qualms about not having enough help in Houston, if he comes here Houston won't have a problem--Houston will be the problem.

I have to disagree with you on that score. I believe building team chemistry and camaderie is a very difficult thing to do to begin with, and when a "bad egg", so to speak, is brought into the lockerroom, that tends to be very disrupting to the goals of the team.

I'm surprised that some are willing to give Howard a pass by stating more or less that Kobe is just difficult to get along with. Yet, Kobe is the leader of this team, and in my mind he was trying to get Howard to conform more to the team concept. Instead Howard just seems to constantly rebel and repel every step of the way.

Attitude goes a very long way in my opinion in the eventual failure or success of an individual, organization, team, etc. How can the concept of team be developed at the same time there are one or two players constantly with attitude issues? I think Richards point about MWP and Rodman holds water because they were much more disruptive to the opposing team than to their own lockerroom chemistry.

[Mason Khamvilay]

People forget that Rodman was a problem in the locker on other teams, particularly the Spurs where he bumped heads with David Robinson all the time. And even though Kobe and Shaq weren't really headcases they also bumped heads all the time. When it comes down to it only one thing matters, and that's the will to win--something Dwight has. Personally I think Dwight will respect everyone in Houston, we have alot of respectable guys, but even if he doesn't we will all be unified by our will to win. Not to mention Dwight will probably be very appreciative of the fact we will feed him more easy baskets than he has ever been fed in his life, just look at how many times we feed Asik who can't even catch and routinely fails to finish while he's right under the basket lol. Asik's per 36 was 7.6ppg in Chicago and it's 12.2ppg in Houston, that's a 62% increase. I imagine Dwight will be around a 27ppg guy in Houston and he will be happier than Christopher Columbus with speedboats.