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@  Dan G : (17 April 2014 - 10:17 PM) That is some interesting news. We gotta get past Portland first, but I like that stat for the next round.
@  feelingsuper... : (17 April 2014 - 12:45 PM) So yesterday during Truehoop TV Amin said the teams that win any season series 4 to 0 go on in the post season with a 51 and 4 record versus the losing team. Hmmmmmm...
@  Buckko : (15 April 2014 - 05:22 AM) Hope we can get him back in the offseason, he was just signed for the rest of the offseason.
@  jorgeaam : (15 April 2014 - 04:16 AM) Bulls release Tornike Shengelia and sign Greg Smith, well, that didn't take long
@  Cooper : (15 April 2014 - 02:39 AM) nice win. Dwight looks like he's ready go. Bev's still a little rusty but he should be fine.
@  Sir Thursday : (14 April 2014 - 10:24 PM) Thanks huang, that's useful knowledge :).
@  08huangj : (14 April 2014 - 01:15 AM) I've watched a lot of his games
@  08huangj : (14 April 2014 - 01:15 AM) Guys, I live in Guangzhou. Just in case you didn't notice, Powell was in Guangzhou playing with the tigers before he came to the Rockets. No midrange shot. Good rebounder. Bad defender. Good at attacking the rim. This is my summary for his time at Guangzhou.
@  Cooper : (13 April 2014 - 11:16 PM) hes 6-9 so id guess more of a pf but it doesn't really matter either way I guess.
@  Buckko : (13 April 2014 - 11:02 PM) Not really, you seen his season averages? Not pretty.
@  Sir Thursday : (13 April 2014 - 10:18 PM) He's more of a PF, I thought. You could always make the specious "RINGZZZ!" argument, since he won two with the Lakers...
@  Buckko : (13 April 2014 - 09:04 PM) Waived Pittman, signed Josh Powell. I don't really get why they signed a scrub SF.
@  Drew in Abilene : (13 April 2014 - 02:41 AM) In the postgame interview, Bev said he was alright, but it looked iffy...
@  08huangj : (13 April 2014 - 02:40 AM) Not watching the game. Just looking at the play-by-plays.
@  08huangj : (13 April 2014 - 02:39 AM) Rockets win!
@  Drew in Abilene : (13 April 2014 - 02:39 AM) Oh gosh, I hope Beverley isn't hurt again... He was taken out in the last few seconds limping after falling and looking like he hurt his right knee...
@  08huangj : (13 April 2014 - 02:39 AM) yep
@  Drew in Abilene : (13 April 2014 - 02:35 AM) Harden, Lin, and Beverley all coming up big in these last few clutch minutes.
@  08huangj : (13 April 2014 - 02:01 AM) And why is Parsons missing?
@  08huangj : (13 April 2014 - 02:00 AM) If Rockets don't get better soon, they are not going to be the fourth seed in the western conference.

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Dilemma: Who do I choose for NBA League Pass?


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#1 Red94

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    Posted 20 September 2013 - 12:48 PM

    New post: Dilemma: Who do I choose for NBA League Pass?
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    Miami is out.  They're on every week anyway, but besides, I just don't enjoy watching them play.  (Unless it's the Finals, of course.)  The Lakers too are out, because of Bryant's injury.  The strange irony of the backlash I received from citing Kobe Bryant as the league's most overrated shooting guard in a 5-on-5 some weeks ago is that I actually like Bryant and moreso, really like watching him play.  But despite what they're saying, who knows when he's back and more importantly, at full strength.  Maybe he beats the odds, but hey, we're talking about one of five available slots here.  You can't waste a slot betting on a 35 year old's health, man.  You guys know that.  Let's keep moving.

    I'm intrigued by Brooklyn, but again, not enough.  I always did like Deron Williams but I'm almost expecting Kevin Garnett and Paul Pierce to look more like Gary Payton and Karl Malone in their Lakers' 2004 roles (e.g. old) than like any other geriatric duo that went ring-chasing and actually succeeded.  But I do like the move.  When you're over, you gotta go all in.  And Joe Johnson's contract is the definition of "over."  You can't just pay a fringe All-Star $20million/annual and then cite fiscal responsibility in an effort to somehow manage the cap.  But we'll move on.  There's no one in the Atlantic Division that I'm taking.  I'll read about the Knicks' title chances in every national rag (and will chuckle) but no thanks on watching.  By the way, while we're here, did Carmelo Anthony really get a first place MVP vote?  Really now?  And Sam, if you're for some reason reading this, I love you and best of luck, but I'm not watching your team.

    Rockets are obviously in.  That's the whole point of getting this.  Spurs?  God no.  That's great that you guys have managed to defy reality and the aging process, but I age about a year every time I watch you guys play.  I just don't do boring basketball.

    The Pelicans are my it team next year for reasons I've already gone into, but I'm going to set them in my 'maybe' category for now.  I loved the offseason they had, but from a viewer standpoint, neither 'Reke Evans or Jrue get me excited and I don't pay to watch big men.  But man, that team is going to be good.  (By the way, as an aside, if Anthony Davis develops as projected, how long is Houston's window until we can say the Pelicans are in their class?  I say one year.)

    Okay, so now we're looking at the Central and Bulls are definitely in, even if it takes Derrick Rose some time to shake off the rust from wearing a suit all year.  Two questions: has there ever been a more laughably undeserving MVP and secondly, has there ever been a more spectacularly entertaining player than Rose?  I can't think of a more tragic injury than a guy like that who earns his bread counting on that extra tenth of a second difference going down and potentially losing that forever.  They say you lose nothing, but when you're talking about that degree of an extreme, there has to be some give, right?  Let's hope not.  Speaking of captivating, Cleveland also is in, even though Kyrie Irving is guaranteed to miss about half the season.  Can you tell I like point guards?  The Cavs will be a lock here after Lebron does the logical thing next summer and goes back.

    So far, I'm at Houston, Chicago, and Cleveland, with two slots still open.  Indiana is going to come out of the East but did anyone become more fantastically overrated last summer than Paul George?  Look, the guy is tremendous.  One of the best two-way players in the league.  But fans and media have to stop overrating players on the basis of playoff performances.  It's not smart analysis nor smart projecting.  Same thing with Kawhi Leonard.  And Chandler Parsons and Pat Beverley.  Just because a guy played well in extended circumstances where your attention was more intensely focused upon him (i.e: their game was the only one on) doesn't mean that you can throw out other mitigating factors (i.e.: that out of the field of other NBA players, there aren't guys who, if placed in that same position if given the opportunity, would have produced similarly.)  In fact, I'd argue that projections/salaries based on playoff performances are one of the biggest managerial missteps out there.  Anyone remember Austin Croshere some ten years ago who played his way to a nice deal after putting up numbers in the Finals against a Laker team with no '4'?  I didn't think so.  Now, having said that, what a strong playoff performance does tell you, is that a guy has the mental makeup to respond to pressure and adversity.  And I guess there is some value to that.  But I don't think that's enough to overcome the balancing factors.  If you look good for five games against a good matchup, it's not telling me enough to make a financial decision.  The bottom line is that George is tremendous.  But I've seen some places where people argued he was in the upper echelon near Harden territory and that's just absurd (or perhaps overt contrarianism?).  Come back to me when he can create a shot.

    Detroit's my WTF? sleeper where anything can happen.  I mean, seriously, Brandon Jennings and Josh Smith...together?  What could possibly go wrong?  But on that point, has anyone in recent history been more underrated and unappreciated than Josh Smith with respect to reputation vs. team success.  This is a guy who consistently, at worst, has been the second best player on a team that has made the playoffs every year (and also advanced), yet we talk about him as if he's this generation's Derrick Coleman.  This is a man who makes serious, serious contributions on the basketball court.  So this could really work, especially if Drummond makes the jump (Drummond or Anthony Davis, who do you have?), but again, too risky when I have just two slots left.  But yeah, this is my candidate for a Golden State type meteoric rise, while at the same time, my candidate for a midseason mutiny with rumors that player X attacked player Y in the workout room with a medicine ball.

    No one in the Northwest.  I don't like watching the Thunder play.  Something to do with Westbrook, I guess.  And no one in the Southeast either.  Is there a more pathetic looking division in basketball?  Wall looked good though, but please man, fix your shot.  It's really not that hard, especially when you can do like...everything else.

    Clippers and Warriors round it out.  Two notes here: Chris Paul is the most historically underrated superstar of his generation and one of the most of all-time especially considering I've seen amateur discussions where people have actually placed Gary Payton and John Stockton above him.  Some of that is just romanticization of the past but much of that is just ignorance.  You walk into a bar and tell people you'd take Chris Paul over Magic Johnson, and you'd get laughed at...and that shouldn't be the case.  Just compare the numbers, with special attention placed upon each respective player's best year where Paul, in '09, posted a PER of 30, WS/48 of .292 and an offensive rating of 124, compared to Magic's '87 when he had a PER of 27.0, WS/48 of .263 and also posted an offensive rating of 124.  (Keep in mind that those oRTG's are unadjusted where Magic was flanked by Hall of Famers while Paul had David West.)  The career averages also point in favor of Paul.  I'm not saying there aren't known issues with PER and win shares but those metrics are really all we have to compare players from different generations.  (RAPM isn't of much use here because play by play data wasn't available before this decade and those 90's rankings are based upon more inaccurate box score calculations.)  My point is this: I'm not saying Chris Paul is the greatest point guard of all-time (though Daryl Morey kind of implied that, putting him in his all-time starting 5 in an AMA on Reddit last year), but there's a serious discussion and we haven't even touched on the fact that Magic played on some of the most talent-heavy rosters in history.

    Second point: Curry.  I think Bill Simmons made the point that Curry stands alone as the absolute "turn on the TV" guy in the league right now where I could be on Twitter and see my timeline explode and nonchalantly think, "oh, he's doing it again" with "doing it again" meaning dropping 30 points in a quarter.  But the thing about Curry, like Hakeem Olajuwon, isn't so much that he's great--both are obviously great--but that they are doing things that we have not previously perceived in our overall basketball gestalt.  Do you know what I mean?  For instance, Kobe is great, but I've seen that with Jordan and guys like McGrady etc.  Irving and Rose are fun but I saw Iverson, Hardaway etc.  We've never seen a guy shoot 3's off his own dribble or shoot floater 3's (like he did in the playoffs).  We've never seen this stuff, so, while it's not like it's impossible, we just didn't know it was possible because no one had done it and that makes it look all the more visually appealing.  We love sensory novelty.  And that's why the Warriors take the last of the five precious slots in our League Pass exercise.


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    Posted 20 September 2013 - 01:31 PM

     

     

    Chris Paul is the most historically underrated superstar of his generation and one of the most of all-time especially considering I've seen amateur discussions where people have actually placed Gary Payton and John Stockton above him.  Some of that is just romanticization of the past but much of that is just ignorance.  You walk into a bar and tell people you'd take Chris Paul over Magic Johnson, and you'd get laughed at...and that shouldn't be the case.

    This. 

     

    As for the topic, Warriors and Pelicans are definitely on my league pass. Wizards are a maybe, I think John Wall is going to be a superstar this season and Beal will breakout. Not a big fan of OKC, I think they will win a lot of games but I don't like how they rely so much on iso's. I'm very interested in Memphis now that they're becoming more involved with analytics since the hiring of John Hollinger, and the firing of Hollins was a controversial move but I find the idea of Hollinger being more involved in coaching decisions to be very interesting. Wolves will be good if they're healthy, Rubio is a joy to watch. Clippers will be better too now that they have shooters, J.J. Redick is an underrated offensive player.  


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      Posted 20 September 2013 - 01:37 PM



      I have 3 of the same and 2 different in SAC and ATL, I'm really intrigued by SAC in terms of a WTF team in that they clearly have more talent than their records, what happen this year with a (hopefully) competent coach and finally not the worst owners in the league? I'm intrigued, and of course watching Cousins when your not rooting for the team is funny. and I find their general style more entertaining than the Pelican's

      I'm intrigued by Atlanta in seeing what a change of system would do for them, they're dubbed as the permanent also rans in the playoff, but on the other hand, their average outcome in the last decade has been one of the best in the East...


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        Posted 20 September 2013 - 01:58 PM

        I think the pistons I'd watch them just to see Drummond block shots into the upper deck now they have smith and BJ to throw on the fire, is stuckey still around there? wizards and wolves will be very entertaining this year great Pgs with pretty good supporting cast interested to see who fits/doesn't get injured and all probably won't have much national TV games. Sac would be worth the watch because boogie and I have little idea about who they are going to start around him and Orlando will be sneakily good while obviously awful if they stick oladipo at pg, Harris and vuvecic put up some intriguing stats last year wonder if they can hold up.
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          Posted 20 September 2013 - 02:01 PM

          Being an international subscriber means I can watch all the games! (Provided if the internet is stable enough) 

           

          But if I were to choose 5

          1. Rockets - For Dwight, Parsons, Linsanity and James' beard

          2. Warriors - For Iggy, Barnes and Splash Bros

          3. Cleveland - For Bennett, Irving and Bynum's hair.

          4. Pelicans - For Evans, Holiday, The Brow and the team's new logo.

          5. Wizards - For Beal, Wall and Potter.

           

          Magic's Dipo and crew looks promising, but they just lack stardom that makes me wants to catch their game.

           

          Bobcats looks intriguing. A lot of good undeveloped players but the team just somehow looks destined to lose.

           

          Celtics are good, too, especially if Green can channel his inner LeBron (like the game where he went off for 40+ points against LeBron) every night.


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          Posted 20 September 2013 - 02:29 PM

          A big reason I think Pelicans are going to be so entertaining is because they traded Robin Lopez away so that they can play Davis at center. With Ryan Anderson spacing the floor, it's going to be extremely hard to stop the Holiday-Davis pick and roll. 


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          Posted 20 September 2013 - 02:40 PM

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          As you can see there, the Pelicans offense was at its best with the Davis-Anderson front-court. And with the upgrades the Pelicans have made at PG and SG, the Pelicans are going to be a force on offense next season. Defensively they might be middling especially against teams with a bruising dominant center (increasingly rare), but for what it's worth Davis is eating a lot of pizza lol


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            Posted 20 September 2013 - 03:11 PM



            I think the problem is can Davis play long term at C? I've heard mix answers to this. if he can't the Pelicans will be pretty ugly


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            Posted 20 September 2013 - 03:53 PM

            I think Dallas will be interesting.
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              Posted 20 September 2013 - 04:23 PM

              I kind of want the Wizards now that I'm thinking about it.


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              Posted 20 September 2013 - 04:25 PM

              I kind of want the Wizards now that I'm thinking about it.


              Without Okafor I think they will miss the playoffs.
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              Posted 20 September 2013 - 04:30 PM

              CP3 is underrated because he underperforms in the playoffs. I think talent wise he's the best PG ever, but I would rather have Magic/Stockton because they were more consistent. I don't usually agree with the rings argument, but it does play a factor in determining all time greats.
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                Posted 20 September 2013 - 04:39 PM



                Being a much bigger fan of the Rockets, versus the NBA as a whole, I'd be concentrating on the WC teams that are potentially on the rise: GSW (of course), Wolves, Pelicans, and Grizz (I know they've already arrived).. I already know what to expect out of Spurs and Thunder, so no real need to watch more of the same. I have a feeling GSW has taken a step back this offseason with the Iggy trade and I know that's a huge debate right now. Since the Jazz are not as detestable as they were in the past, and the Lakers being just pathetic, I think GSW is the new team for Rockets' fans to hate. With Love healthy and NOLA putting together some nice young talent, the Wolves and Pels will be interesting to watch. I just like the way the Grizz play ball, with Conley at the helm and the big-boy ball down low. I don't think the Clippers will gather the wins they are projected to, and If the Rockets weren't needed to be the #5 on the Pass, then the Clips would be. I think there will be some chemistry issues there with Doc in town. Paul maybe not willing to cede total control after calling plays for a couple years and Doc likes his control. Also I think BG and DJ are a little young, (maybe dumb) and free-spirited to play within the structured system that Doc introduces. The pick-up game style we saw form Lob City, is about as good as your gonna get from that squad, I believe. If you tug on their reins, they will probably resist. Maybe I'm just hoping for some relevant drama to emerge from Hollywood next season.


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                  Posted 20 September 2013 - 05:01 PM

                  Without Okafor I think they will miss the playoffs.

                  maybe maybe not, because Nene is really a center they're playing as PF and part of the problem last year was that they ran an excessive amount of Okafor + Nene lineup that killed their spacing especially early in the season when Wall was out and Beal was sucking.

                   

                  Now with Okafor and Singleton out they are probably forced to play small ball with Webster / Ariza / Porter / Rice as their front line which might actually be better in terms of making the playoffs because they have the man to really run like the Rockets did last year (in terms of regular season it's usually easier to make it as a great offensive team instead of defense). Rice / Beal / Wall especially sounds really really exciting in transition.

                   

                  Rahat, I also suggest you to consider the Kings in terms of an entertaining trainwreck team that might surprise like Detroit.


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                    Posted 20 September 2013 - 07:00 PM



                    Golden State, Cleveland, Denver, New Orleans, and Indiana are a solid five. The Knicks, Nets, Clips, Heat, Lakers, Thunder will be interesting to watch (for various reasons) but they'll be on cable all the time. Indiana may also be in that category. I would personally pick Washington over Indiana, but that's the John Wall fan in me.


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                      Posted 20 September 2013 - 08:26 PM



                      Miami Heats stands out with many of their interesting players on the bench. If one of those players ever come back to half of their prime, the team will be one of the most entertaining team in history.

                      Knicks without Lin, Jared Jeffery, Steve Novak, Landry Field and with fat Felton is plain boring.

                      Chicago is definitely the team to watch because they have so many flashy players. How can you focus just on Rose alone? They went to playoff w/o Rose, did they?

                      The Lakers is still very entertaining with D'Antonio. He's the most underrated coach. They have a decent team put together in the off-season. Koby won't be able to recover in time and that gives lots of opportunity for the rest who is dying to prove themselves. Hope Antonio can find another Linsanity. That's not impossible. I'm just surprised that they don't pick up Jared Jeffery.


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                        Posted 21 September 2013 - 01:17 AM



                        Since I get LP on my cable and I live in LA I get all the Rocket games.

                        Which doesn't stop me from giving free advice :)
                        Rahat,
                        Take Cleveland over Chicago. You'll still get 4 games against Chi,Indy and Detroit,plus at least 8 more games from your other teams. You know Chi and Indy will get at least 10 National games-and against better teams,do you really wanna watch Chi against Phoenix or Atlanta? So that's at least 20 games for Chi and Indy.
                        Houston obviously.
                        While you're going for both GS and the Clips,I'd recommend taking just GS for the same reasoning as Cleveland,knowing that the Clips are definitely going to air Nationally a ton.(And the Rockets play the Clips 4 times-one on NBA-TV.)
                        You're taking NO-and I think they have a ways to go before they're contenders.
                        As you're a fan of PGs I'd recommend using your last slot on Portland or Minn. Lillard is a fascinating young PG and Rubio can amaze,and if he ever gets any kind of outside shot... And they're two teams that won't get a lot of National games.


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                          Posted 21 September 2013 - 01:18 AM



                          Rahat,
                          Also,do you really want to pay to watch Boozer play?


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                            Posted 21 September 2013 - 02:24 AM

                            that's fantastic advice stephen.  but i didnt take NO.  


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                              Posted 21 September 2013 - 02:28 AM

                              I would go with blazers over minny
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