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@  2016Champions : (10 April 2013 - 07:20 AM) this photo looks awesome. lol @ Lin http://www.nba.com/r...04/forjason.jpg
@  rockets best... : (10 April 2013 - 04:54 AM) well it looks like the hornets didn't get it done
@  DrewinAbilene : (10 April 2013 - 03:44 AM) But the Hornets are trying to help out!
@  BenQueens : (10 April 2013 - 03:42 AM) Klay Thompson is clearly not listening to me.
@  DrewinAbilene : (10 April 2013 - 03:24 AM) And the Mavs...
@  DrewinAbilene : (10 April 2013 - 03:24 AM) Not gonna lie, I hold no deep animosity for any NBA team... Except the dang Lakers!
@  BenQueens : (10 April 2013 - 03:24 AM) Man! Playoffs again and cap space in the off-season. So much better than a mid-first rounder!
@  2016Champions : (10 April 2013 - 03:22 AM) Me too
@  BenQueens : (10 April 2013 - 03:21 AM) I know what you mean about match-ups, but I've developed enough of a grudge about GSW that I just want them to lose, lose, lose.
@  2016Champions : (10 April 2013 - 03:19 AM) I'm asking for alot -__-'
@  feelingsuper... : (10 April 2013 - 03:19 AM) Yesssssssssss!!!!!!
@  2016Champions : (10 April 2013 - 03:19 AM) oh wait, Grizz play us one more game. So Nuggets need to lose two lol
@  2016Champions : (10 April 2013 - 03:19 AM) Lets go Minny, but only if Nuggets lose to Spurs tomorrow and Grizz go undefeated for the rest of the season :D
@  DrewinAbilene : (10 April 2013 - 03:16 AM) Amen to that! Our cup of optimism runneth over!
@  BenQueens : (10 April 2013 - 03:14 AM) Why stop at Lakers loss? Let's go Minny.
@  DrewinAbilene : (10 April 2013 - 03:12 AM) Is a Lakers loss on top of the fluke Rockets win is too much to ask for?
@  Rahat Huq : (10 April 2013 - 03:12 AM) how sweet it is!
@  Rahat Huq : (10 April 2013 - 03:11 AM) 30 seconds away from clinching
@  BenQueens : (10 April 2013 - 02:43 AM) TJ + Greg Smith combine for 23 and 11 on 10/15 shooting.
@  BenQueens : (10 April 2013 - 02:41 AM) Bright spot: TJ playing some rookie D, but I like the way he cleans up.  Dark: 20% from 3.

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Carlos Delfino vs Francisco Garcia - Which Wing Will Win?


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#1 Red94

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    Posted 08 April 2013 - 05:54 PM

    New post: Carlos Delfino vs Francisco Garcia - Which Wing Will Win?

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    Posted 08 April 2013 - 06:13 PM

    You can break down who shoots where and what, but a very easy way to compare scoring efficiency when you're looking at two very similar players is TS%

     

    Delfino .545

    Garcia .604

     

    And their PER is similar (Garcia's is actually higher but not by much).

     

    Garcia wins.


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      Posted 08 April 2013 - 06:23 PM

      I suspect McHale would stick with the more familiar Delfino barring injury, but I'll be shocked if either player is in a Rockets uniform next season (at least under the terms of their current contracts).  Particularly Garcia.



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      Posted 08 April 2013 - 06:32 PM

      Garcia will have to sign at a much cheaper rate if he wants to come back, because there's no way we're bringing him back for 6m. We probably won't even need him if James Anderson improves, plus I can see us using the Lin/Beverley back-court alot more frequently going forward.


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      Posted 08 April 2013 - 07:29 PM

      I suspect McHale would stick with the more familiar Delfino barring injury, but I'll be shocked if either player is in a Rockets uniform next season (at least under the terms of their current contracts).  Particularly Garcia.

      I agree probably neither returns next year. however I disagree that McHale will stick with delfino. Garcia seems to make better decisions with the ball which should garner more support from McHale. their stats may be close, but from the eye test Garcia is a better player



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        Posted 08 April 2013 - 07:40 PM

        Neither are part of Morey's long term plan. He picked up Delfino for cheap and Garcia as part of a trade.

        We might have new starters and new style, so they might not fit in either.

         

        I can't wait to see our team is set. Happy to see the progress this year but next year, we might start all over again with new players, or even new coaches.



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          Posted 08 April 2013 - 08:20 PM

          Garcia will have to sign at a much cheaper rate if he wants to come back, because there's no way we're bringing him back for 6m. We probably won't even need him if James Anderson improves, plus I can see us using the Lin/Beverley back-court alot more frequently going forward.

           

          I also expect to see the Lin/Bev back-court more often, but that raises another issue: the Delfino/Garcia roster spot probably has to be manned by someone who can work at the 4 in a  small lineup (like Parsons) for McHale's rotations to work.  I'd be interested to see some +/- on Garcia as the 4 vs Delfino.



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          Posted 08 April 2013 - 08:29 PM

          I don't follow. I think the reason McHale goes small with Delfino is to space the floor, but next season D-Mo should be able to do that (assuming he improves). Or if the rumors are accurate, we will be getting Josh Smith who shoots 38% in the right wing. Obviously Delfino spaces the floor better, but I highly doubt Delfino at the 4 is part of Morey's long-term plans for obvious reasons.


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            Posted 08 April 2013 - 08:51 PM

            Yeah, I don't see either being significant parts to our roster in the future as our young guys develop. Personally I'd prefer they hold onto Delfino over Garcia if we are to be stuck with one of them for two reasons. Of course, CD's contract is way more attractive and Garcia isn't special enough to be a feature of any trades. Second, I think Delfino plays with a little more enthusiasm than Garcia, which can be infectious when used as the spark off the bench. Granted, Delfino's not particularly adept at creating plays, but when the game gets to a point where he is forced to, I think it sends a strong signal to the other guys on the floor to pick up their energy.



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              Posted 08 April 2013 - 08:51 PM

              Sorry, that was just comparing Garcia and Delfino amongst themselves.  Maybe Moti will become a real stretch 4, and the small-ball lineup of this season will just fade away... but I have a feeling we see a 3/4 swingman signed to a Delfino-like contract this offseason to hedge that bet.



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                Posted 08 April 2013 - 11:50 PM

                I think what this really proves is just that that "role" is totally replaceable with interchangeable parts. Recall in a discussion a month or so back that I said the Rockets wouldn't bring back Delfino if they needed that salary slot. Some members here said he was integral to the team and couldn't be lost. Garcia's play stepping in for Delfino has showed that you can just fill in with the next guy on deck, especially with a savy GM like Morey.

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                  Posted 09 April 2013 - 02:58 AM

                  Morey himself has said the next steps on his roster building are to find a 3 and D guy and his second superstar.  As Lin and Parsons fill into their play making roles Delfino will need to step back as our third facilitator.  Which makes him less valuable.  I think both Garcia and Delfino are gone and we try to find a 2/3 hybrid to put on elite PGs who can also hit the three.



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                  Posted 09 April 2013 - 03:07 AM

                  Do you have a link to where Morey said this? The next step is finding a 3 and a D guy? 


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                    Posted 09 April 2013 - 03:12 AM

                    I want to say it was in his interview with Zach Lowe for the moneyball conference.  He said 1st priority is getting his second superstar but that the Rockets could use a defensive specialist with three point range.



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                    Posted 09 April 2013 - 03:18 AM

                    Yeah I remembering him saying something along those lines. 


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                      Posted 09 April 2013 - 03:39 PM

                      Related: I think Morey's biggest mistake so far has been taking Marcus Morris (14th pick) over Kawhi Leonard (15th pick). Leonard was the model of the kind of athlete that succeeds in the NBA, while Morris is the model of the kind of player who dominates college with skill, but doesn't have enough room to improve to be great in the NBA.

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                        Posted 09 April 2013 - 04:10 PM

                        Related: I think Morey's biggest mistake so far has been taking Marcus Morris (14th pick) over Kawhi Leonard (15th pick). Leonard was the model of the kind of athlete that succeeds in the NBA, while Morris is the model of the kind of player who dominates college with skill, but doesn't have enough room to improve to be great in the NBA.

                        He also passed on the likes of DeAndre Jordan and Larry Sanders.  I think that in this recent phase, he wanted to avoid guys with great physical gifts.  Sort of like the Moneyball concept in baseball.



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                          Posted 09 April 2013 - 04:12 PM

                          He also passed on the likes of DeAndre Jordan and Larry Sanders. I think that in this recent phase, he wanted to avoid guys with great physical gifts. Sort of like the Moneyball concept in baseball.


                          Hindsight is always 20/20. But if the Rockets would have drafted Leonard, the Parsons might not have become the player that he is due to lack of playing time.

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                          Posted 09 April 2013 - 04:52 PM

                          I would have loved Kawhi Leonard on the Rockets, it's a real shame he passed him up. And I don't belive Kawhi would have stunted Parsons growth, if anything it would have helped Parsons to play agaisnt Kawhi's defense in practice. Plus there have been plenty of players who have made alot of growth while battling someone in a time share, and also plenty of players who haven't made much growth despite getting plenty of playing time.


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                            Posted 09 April 2013 - 05:03 PM

                            Practice! We're talking about practice! Not a game! No! We're talking about practice!

                            Practice is necessary, but the in game experience he has gotten is more valuable then the practice time he would have gotten against Leonard.




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