<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" > <channel><title>Comments on: Houston Rockets trade Trevor Ariza in four-team trade, land guard Courtney Lee</title> <atom:link href="/houston-rockets-trade-trevor-ariza-in-four-team-trade-land-guard-courtney-lee/3442/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.red94.net/houston-rockets-trade-trevor-ariza-in-four-team-trade-land-guard-courtney-lee/3442/</link> <description>Red94 &#124; Houston Rockets news and musings</description> <lastBuildDate>Thu, 18 Jul 2013 14:10:51 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=4.0.1</generator> <item><title>By: abbie</title><link>http://www.red94.net/houston-rockets-trade-trevor-ariza-in-four-team-trade-land-guard-courtney-lee/3442/comment-page-1/#comment-4815</link> <dc:creator><![CDATA[abbie]]></dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 13 Aug 2010 08:15:38 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.red94.net/?p=3442#comment-4815</guid> <description><![CDATA[Trevor does seem to be a journeyman.  Spot on on your observations about Trevor about his psychological fragility.  Another thing that bothered me was it seemed he had still not cut his emotional ties to the Lakers.  He&#039;s still pining to go back.  Also when KM came aboard,  he did not give the coaches the freedom to decide who should go to the bench.  It was Shane who had to give way.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I thought though towards the end of the season, he had done some growing up.   He and AB seemed to communicate better; he had accepted his role, etc.  We won&#039;t have a chance to see that now but I wish him a good career at NO.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trevor does seem to be a journeyman.  Spot on on your observations about Trevor about his psychological fragility.  Another thing that bothered me was it seemed he had still not cut his emotional ties to the Lakers.  He&#39;s still pining to go back.  Also when KM came aboard,  he did not give the coaches the freedom to decide who should go to the bench.  It was Shane who had to give way.</p><p>I thought though towards the end of the season, he had done some growing up.   He and AB seemed to communicate better; he had accepted his role, etc.  We won&#39;t have a chance to see that now but I wish him a good career at NO.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Sir_Thursday</title><link>http://www.red94.net/houston-rockets-trade-trevor-ariza-in-four-team-trade-land-guard-courtney-lee/3442/comment-page-1/#comment-4809</link> <dc:creator><![CDATA[Sir_Thursday]]></dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 13 Aug 2010 04:55:58 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.red94.net/?p=3442#comment-4809</guid> <description><![CDATA[Interesting - a lot of the stuff I&#039;ve read has indicated that Lee is actually a pretty good 3-pt shooter - certainly Hollinger quotes some nice stats in Patrick Lee&#039;s post above though that was before this season. But I haven&#039;t really seen him play...and there&#039;s no real substitute for actually watching the game.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting &#8211; a lot of the stuff I&#39;ve read has indicated that Lee is actually a pretty good 3-pt shooter &#8211; certainly Hollinger quotes some nice stats in Patrick Lee&#39;s post above though that was before this season. But I haven&#39;t really seen him play&#8230;and there&#39;s no real substitute for actually watching the game.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Skatbone</title><link>http://www.red94.net/houston-rockets-trade-trevor-ariza-in-four-team-trade-land-guard-courtney-lee/3442/comment-page-1/#comment-4799</link> <dc:creator><![CDATA[Skatbone]]></dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2010 22:25:09 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.red94.net/?p=3442#comment-4799</guid> <description><![CDATA[apod,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;m in agreement with you on Ariza&#039;s attitude (Rahat mentioned it as well). He was repeatedly grimacing, especially around midseason. He looked to be preoccupied with himself rather than the team. I felt like Ariza had a  maturity issue coupled with the awkward (failed?) results of having been used as a go-to-guy prior to the trade deadline.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That said, I don&#039;t buy any of this x or y has hit their ceiling already. Both Lee and Ariza are young. I enjoyed watching both of them in the playoffs two years ago. I thought NJ had gotten quite an asset in Lee and I haven&#039;t given up on the possibility that he can be a better-than-solid contributor. Two years of play (one with such a poor Nets team) aren&#039;t enough to tell me a guy has hit his ceiling. The same for Ariza. In my opinion, the jury is still out.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But I won&#039;t miss that selfish grimace.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>apod,</p><p>I&#39;m in agreement with you on Ariza&#39;s attitude (Rahat mentioned it as well). He was repeatedly grimacing, especially around midseason. He looked to be preoccupied with himself rather than the team. I felt like Ariza had a  maturity issue coupled with the awkward (failed?) results of having been used as a go-to-guy prior to the trade deadline.</p><p>That said, I don&#39;t buy any of this x or y has hit their ceiling already. Both Lee and Ariza are young. I enjoyed watching both of them in the playoffs two years ago. I thought NJ had gotten quite an asset in Lee and I haven&#39;t given up on the possibility that he can be a better-than-solid contributor. Two years of play (one with such a poor Nets team) aren&#39;t enough to tell me a guy has hit his ceiling. The same for Ariza. In my opinion, the jury is still out.</p><p>But I won&#39;t miss that selfish grimace.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jodorowsky</title><link>http://www.red94.net/houston-rockets-trade-trevor-ariza-in-four-team-trade-land-guard-courtney-lee/3442/comment-page-1/#comment-4794</link> <dc:creator><![CDATA[Jodorowsky]]></dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2010 20:02:40 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.red94.net/?p=3442#comment-4794</guid> <description><![CDATA[I have been looking for some nice new jewelry to wear to my important meetings with dignitaries and the likes... THANKS JEWELRY REVIEWS!!!]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been looking for some nice new jewelry to wear to my important meetings with dignitaries and the likes&#8230; THANKS JEWELRY REVIEWS!!!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: East Coast Rox Fan</title><link>http://www.red94.net/houston-rockets-trade-trevor-ariza-in-four-team-trade-land-guard-courtney-lee/3442/comment-page-1/#comment-4786</link> <dc:creator><![CDATA[East Coast Rox Fan]]></dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2010 17:27:43 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.red94.net/?p=3442#comment-4786</guid> <description><![CDATA[I&#039;m uncertain whether this concern has been broached yet, but how different is Courtney Lee from what the Rox already have in Jermaine Taylor? As a resident of NJ, I&#039;ve seen enough from the former to state that he had a tremendous opportunity to take a step forward last year, but failed to do so. Yes, there are plenty of reasons, including a putrid supporting cast; however, in terms of his abilities, they do not seem to be all that superior to Taylor. They are both nearly the same size and possess almost the same game - poor 3-point shooters, but capable mid-range and drivers. To me, because of their similarities, it seems that one&#039;s growth this upcoming year will be simultaneously met with the stunted development in the other. I&#039;d be very interested to hear your thoughts and how each fits into the Rox plans for 2011.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;m uncertain whether this concern has been broached yet, but how different is Courtney Lee from what the Rox already have in Jermaine Taylor? As a resident of NJ, I&#39;ve seen enough from the former to state that he had a tremendous opportunity to take a step forward last year, but failed to do so. Yes, there are plenty of reasons, including a putrid supporting cast; however, in terms of his abilities, they do not seem to be all that superior to Taylor. They are both nearly the same size and possess almost the same game &#8211; poor 3-point shooters, but capable mid-range and drivers. To me, because of their similarities, it seems that one&#39;s growth this upcoming year will be simultaneously met with the stunted development in the other. I&#39;d be very interested to hear your thoughts and how each fits into the Rox plans for 2011.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: jewelryreviews</title><link>http://www.red94.net/houston-rockets-trade-trevor-ariza-in-four-team-trade-land-guard-courtney-lee/3442/comment-page-1/#comment-4785</link> <dc:creator><![CDATA[jewelryreviews]]></dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2010 14:20:17 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.red94.net/?p=3442#comment-4785</guid> <description><![CDATA[Bewitching &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jewelryreviews.org&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.jewelryreviews.org&lt;/a&gt; , the Pieces that Makes all Aunt Crazy! The Mistakes of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jewelryreviews.org&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.jewelryreviews.org&lt;/a&gt; You Should Know What to Wear to Meeting? - the Best Choice]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bewitching <a href="http://www.jewelryreviews.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.jewelryreviews.org</a> , the Pieces that Makes all Aunt Crazy! The Mistakes of <a href="http://www.jewelryreviews.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.jewelryreviews.org</a> You Should Know What to Wear to Meeting? &#8211; the Best Choice</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Patrick Lee</title><link>http://www.red94.net/houston-rockets-trade-trevor-ariza-in-four-team-trade-land-guard-courtney-lee/3442/comment-page-1/#comment-4783</link> <dc:creator><![CDATA[Patrick Lee]]></dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2010 13:34:29 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.red94.net/?p=3442#comment-4783</guid> <description><![CDATA[Hollinger&#039;s preview of Courtney Lee:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;2008-09 season: Lee was an underrated key to Orlando&#039;s conference championship, taking over as the starting shooting guard as a late first-round draft pick and becoming the Magic&#039;s top defensive stopper. Unfortunately for him, the enduring memory many folks have of his season is the missed layup that would have won Game 2 of the NBA Finals in L.A.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Lee was pretty quiet offensively, ranking 57th out of 65 shooting guards in usage rate, and that was the main reason his PER was so low. For a low-usage guy he also was surprisingly turnover-prone, tending to get in trouble when he dribbled into the paint. However, Lee was effective in the catch-and-shoot game, hitting 40.4 percent of his 3s. Lee made 59.8 percent of his shots in the immediate basket area, too, so he certainly can finish -- he just didn&#039;t get there very often.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Scouting report: Often compared to Richard Hamilton because of their similar builds, especially once he donned a facemask in last season&#039;s playoffs, Lee is likely to have a much more defense-oriented identity as a pro. He&#039;s a very good spot-up shooter, with last season&#039;s numbers backed by strong 3-point percentages as a collegian, but it&#039;s unlikely he&#039;ll ever be great at creating his own offense since he&#039;s neither a deceptive ball handler nor an explosive leaper.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Where he does excel, however, is at the other end. Most rookies struggle on defense, but Lee was the Magic&#039;s best on-ball defender from the get-go and has a good chance at becoming an elite defensive stopper. Even though he isn&#039;t powerfully built, he moves very well laterally. He needs to get better at drawing charges, though, as last season he took only five, and he needs to get stronger to defend post-ups better.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;2009-10 outlook: Lee was traded to New Jersey in the Vince Carter deal and should see extended playing time as the Nets&#039; starting shooting guard. While his team as a whole will be a far cry from the Magic squad he played on a season ago, the change of scenery will give him more opportunity to round out his offensive game. I suspect his shots and points will increase sharply but his percentages will go down.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Of course, Lee&#039;s long-term value is more likely to come as a defender. He&#039;ll be facing opponents&#039; best scorers every night in New Jersey without a lot of help, and while he&#039;ll probably take some lumps this season, the experience should pay off in the long run as he tries to establish himself as a lockdown, one-on-one ace.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hollinger&#39;s preview of Courtney Lee:</p><p>2008-09 season: Lee was an underrated key to Orlando&#39;s conference championship, taking over as the starting shooting guard as a late first-round draft pick and becoming the Magic&#39;s top defensive stopper. Unfortunately for him, the enduring memory many folks have of his season is the missed layup that would have won Game 2 of the NBA Finals in L.A.</p><p>Lee was pretty quiet offensively, ranking 57th out of 65 shooting guards in usage rate, and that was the main reason his PER was so low. For a low-usage guy he also was surprisingly turnover-prone, tending to get in trouble when he dribbled into the paint. However, Lee was effective in the catch-and-shoot game, hitting 40.4 percent of his 3s. Lee made 59.8 percent of his shots in the immediate basket area, too, so he certainly can finish &#8212; he just didn&#39;t get there very often.</p><p>Scouting report: Often compared to Richard Hamilton because of their similar builds, especially once he donned a facemask in last season&#39;s playoffs, Lee is likely to have a much more defense-oriented identity as a pro. He&#39;s a very good spot-up shooter, with last season&#39;s numbers backed by strong 3-point percentages as a collegian, but it&#39;s unlikely he&#39;ll ever be great at creating his own offense since he&#39;s neither a deceptive ball handler nor an explosive leaper.</p><p>Where he does excel, however, is at the other end. Most rookies struggle on defense, but Lee was the Magic&#39;s best on-ball defender from the get-go and has a good chance at becoming an elite defensive stopper. Even though he isn&#39;t powerfully built, he moves very well laterally. He needs to get better at drawing charges, though, as last season he took only five, and he needs to get stronger to defend post-ups better.</p><p>2009-10 outlook: Lee was traded to New Jersey in the Vince Carter deal and should see extended playing time as the Nets&#39; starting shooting guard. While his team as a whole will be a far cry from the Magic squad he played on a season ago, the change of scenery will give him more opportunity to round out his offensive game. I suspect his shots and points will increase sharply but his percentages will go down.</p><p>Of course, Lee&#39;s long-term value is more likely to come as a defender. He&#39;ll be facing opponents&#39; best scorers every night in New Jersey without a lot of help, and while he&#39;ll probably take some lumps this season, the experience should pay off in the long run as he tries to establish himself as a lockdown, one-on-one ace.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Rocketsfan765</title><link>http://www.red94.net/houston-rockets-trade-trevor-ariza-in-four-team-trade-land-guard-courtney-lee/3442/comment-page-1/#comment-4782</link> <dc:creator><![CDATA[Rocketsfan765]]></dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2010 12:10:48 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.red94.net/?p=3442#comment-4782</guid> <description><![CDATA[We do have budinger who is a beast]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We do have budinger who is a beast</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: IrThou</title><link>http://www.red94.net/houston-rockets-trade-trevor-ariza-in-four-team-trade-land-guard-courtney-lee/3442/comment-page-1/#comment-4781</link> <dc:creator><![CDATA[IrThou]]></dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2010 11:51:43 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.red94.net/?p=3442#comment-4781</guid> <description><![CDATA[The phantom of Donte Green just keeps rolling and rolling...]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The phantom of Donte Green just keeps rolling and rolling&#8230;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: RFWC</title><link>http://www.red94.net/houston-rockets-trade-trevor-ariza-in-four-team-trade-land-guard-courtney-lee/3442/comment-page-1/#comment-4780</link> <dc:creator><![CDATA[RFWC]]></dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2010 09:03:20 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.red94.net/?p=3442#comment-4780</guid> <description><![CDATA[Tax is certainly an issue.  As much as I would like to think this not about money (not mine), and as such the management would not admit outright, this was an opportunity to get below tax.  Ariza is certainly more athletic than Lee.  The spin is that he goes for more steals and gets burned despite the athleticism.  Ariza may have more potential but whether he would develop in Adelman&#039;s offensive scheme remains to be seen.  For guys who have rings and wants to be the top dog like Ariza, this may not be a good fit for him next year.  Offensively he would have little upside next year and if Yao remains healthy Ariza&#039;s trade value would certainly go down next year (he&#039;s not top anything, certainly not even scoring in his inefficient way).&lt;br&gt;It&#039;s always a game of numbers, money, points, steals... then there&#039;s the subjective valuation of gambling for steals, playing adequate D, athleticism.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If Lee can step in front of Deron Williams and cut off his drives then this would be a good pick up.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tax is certainly an issue.  As much as I would like to think this not about money (not mine), and as such the management would not admit outright, this was an opportunity to get below tax.  Ariza is certainly more athletic than Lee.  The spin is that he goes for more steals and gets burned despite the athleticism.  Ariza may have more potential but whether he would develop in Adelman&#39;s offensive scheme remains to be seen.  For guys who have rings and wants to be the top dog like Ariza, this may not be a good fit for him next year.  Offensively he would have little upside next year and if Yao remains healthy Ariza&#39;s trade value would certainly go down next year (he&#39;s not top anything, certainly not even scoring in his inefficient way).<br />It&#39;s always a game of numbers, money, points, steals&#8230; then there&#39;s the subjective valuation of gambling for steals, playing adequate D, athleticism.</p><p>If Lee can step in front of Deron Williams and cut off his drives then this would be a good pick up.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Rookie Contract</title><link>http://www.red94.net/houston-rockets-trade-trevor-ariza-in-four-team-trade-land-guard-courtney-lee/3442/comment-page-1/#comment-4779</link> <dc:creator><![CDATA[Rookie Contract]]></dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2010 08:59:34 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.red94.net/?p=3442#comment-4779</guid> <description><![CDATA[Impact: Rockets exist the transaction a more balanced (traditional) team.&lt;br&gt;Winners: Bud owns all backup 3 minutes, Kmart has an actual back-up, Les Alexander potentially saves money, DMo facilitates future trades, Fans (I like watching basketball players not just tall people playing basketball), Trevor - all creating is done by Chris Paul, Kyle actually gets to play with a real shooting guard!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Losers: Jermaine Taylor - 3rd SG (please no discussion of James at the point or the three - not realistic), Brooks/Lowry combo (why get a back-up 2)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Interesting comments from DMo - Per &lt;a href=&quot;http://Rockets.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Rockets.com&lt;/a&gt; Q: Was this more a deal to move Ariza’s contract or to get Courtney? DM: This was an opportunity to get Courtney. I mentioned the Kyle Lowry deal and I hesitate a little bit because Kyle is a very good player and I don’t necessarily want to put expectations on Courtney to be similar to Kyle – they’re very different players. But in terms of our aggressiveness and trying to acquire players who we think -&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;fit our winning culture and style of play, fit our overall focus on what we value on the floor, when those players become available we aggressively go for it. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Did DMo just say Ariza didn&#039;t fit into the Rockets winning culture, style of play and lacked the overall focus on what is valued on the floor?  If it wasn&#039;t about the money...]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Impact: Rockets exist the transaction a more balanced (traditional) team.<br />Winners: Bud owns all backup 3 minutes, Kmart has an actual back-up, Les Alexander potentially saves money, DMo facilitates future trades, Fans (I like watching basketball players not just tall people playing basketball), Trevor &#8211; all creating is done by Chris Paul, Kyle actually gets to play with a real shooting guard!</p><p>Losers: Jermaine Taylor &#8211; 3rd SG (please no discussion of James at the point or the three &#8211; not realistic), Brooks/Lowry combo (why get a back-up 2)</p><p>Interesting comments from DMo &#8211; Per <a href="http://Rockets.com" rel="nofollow">Rockets.com</a> Q: Was this more a deal to move Ariza’s contract or to get Courtney? DM: This was an opportunity to get Courtney. I mentioned the Kyle Lowry deal and I hesitate a little bit because Kyle is a very good player and I don’t necessarily want to put expectations on Courtney to be similar to Kyle – they’re very different players. But in terms of our aggressiveness and trying to acquire players who we think -&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;fit our winning culture and style of play, fit our overall focus on what we value on the floor, when those players become available we aggressively go for it.</p><p>Did DMo just say Ariza didn&#39;t fit into the Rockets winning culture, style of play and lacked the overall focus on what is valued on the floor?  If it wasn&#39;t about the money&#8230;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: ATXROCKET</title><link>http://www.red94.net/houston-rockets-trade-trevor-ariza-in-four-team-trade-land-guard-courtney-lee/3442/comment-page-1/#comment-4778</link> <dc:creator><![CDATA[ATXROCKET]]></dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2010 08:17:15 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.red94.net/?p=3442#comment-4778</guid> <description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t deny that Morey is high on Lee - the problem with your Collison/Posey for Ariza deal is the salary match -the Rockets did not want a salary match - they wanted to get under the tax. I don&#039;t blame Les - there&#039;s a lot of uncertainty with the CBA and that tax would be hard to swallow if Yao is not healthy and this is a fringe playoff team. My main issue is buying at face value that this trade was made for primarily basketball reasons. Morey made the best of a salary shedding request and got a player he likes, but who is not in any way clearly an upgrade over Ariza (whom Morey loved when we signed him a year ago). So Morey is saving face to some extent, as he should - this was a move sideways (at best) while saving some money.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#39;t deny that Morey is high on Lee &#8211; the problem with your Collison/Posey for Ariza deal is the salary match -the Rockets did not want a salary match &#8211; they wanted to get under the tax. I don&#39;t blame Les &#8211; there&#39;s a lot of uncertainty with the CBA and that tax would be hard to swallow if Yao is not healthy and this is a fringe playoff team. My main issue is buying at face value that this trade was made for primarily basketball reasons. Morey made the best of a salary shedding request and got a player he likes, but who is not in any way clearly an upgrade over Ariza (whom Morey loved when we signed him a year ago). So Morey is saving face to some extent, as he should &#8211; this was a move sideways (at best) while saving some money.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Brook</title><link>http://www.red94.net/houston-rockets-trade-trevor-ariza-in-four-team-trade-land-guard-courtney-lee/3442/comment-page-1/#comment-4777</link> <dc:creator><![CDATA[Brook]]></dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2010 06:30:16 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.red94.net/?p=3442#comment-4777</guid> <description><![CDATA[I like this trade.  I think it will give us more flexibility in-season to upgrade.  Even with Ariza, I thought that SF was our weakest position.  Now it is clearly the only position that we aren&#039;t two-deep at.  I&#039;m confident that we will be able to acquire a better SF than Ariza without weakening our core.  Closer to the deadline, Morey will be able to decide whether to increase luxury taxes and strengthen our team for the playoffs or look to dump a veteran and get some of our young talent on the court to prepare for the following year.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like this trade.  I think it will give us more flexibility in-season to upgrade.  Even with Ariza, I thought that SF was our weakest position.  Now it is clearly the only position that we aren&#39;t two-deep at.  I&#39;m confident that we will be able to acquire a better SF than Ariza without weakening our core.  Closer to the deadline, Morey will be able to decide whether to increase luxury taxes and strengthen our team for the playoffs or look to dump a veteran and get some of our young talent on the court to prepare for the following year.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Stephen</title><link>http://www.red94.net/houston-rockets-trade-trevor-ariza-in-four-team-trade-land-guard-courtney-lee/3442/comment-page-1/#comment-4776</link> <dc:creator><![CDATA[Stephen]]></dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2010 06:20:51 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.red94.net/?p=3442#comment-4776</guid> <description><![CDATA[First,I really like Lee.(Wish the Rockets had traded w/Denver in 2008 and drafted Lee then used their pick on Batum,instead of saving pick for Artest trade.Anyhow...)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But what makes zero sense at first glance is the Rockets talking about how Lee can defend the bigger PGs. Well that&#039;s nice,but isn&#039;t that what Lowry is for? And if the team is talking about Lee guarding PGs while Brooks is on the floor,who is Brooks guarding? If Brooks can&#039;t guard bigger PGs,how is he going to guard SGs while Lee has the PG?&lt;br&gt;The rationale makes no sense,so why stress it unless...Brooks is going to be traded. Huge honking speculative leap,but if Brooks were to be traded and Lowry starting,then the Rockets might be toying w/a Lee/Taylor/Bud/PF de jour/Miller reserve unit w/Lee and Taylor bringing up the ball,running the hi-post offense thru Miller and using Taylor as the last second drive option(or possible playmaker-remember the line about JT perhaps being the emergency 3rd PG a month or so ago?). For the back-up PG the team signs some journeyman PG.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First,I really like Lee.(Wish the Rockets had traded w/Denver in 2008 and drafted Lee then used their pick on Batum,instead of saving pick for Artest trade.Anyhow&#8230;)</p><p>But what makes zero sense at first glance is the Rockets talking about how Lee can defend the bigger PGs. Well that&#39;s nice,but isn&#39;t that what Lowry is for? And if the team is talking about Lee guarding PGs while Brooks is on the floor,who is Brooks guarding? If Brooks can&#39;t guard bigger PGs,how is he going to guard SGs while Lee has the PG?<br />The rationale makes no sense,so why stress it unless&#8230;Brooks is going to be traded. Huge honking speculative leap,but if Brooks were to be traded and Lowry starting,then the Rockets might be toying w/a Lee/Taylor/Bud/PF de jour/Miller reserve unit w/Lee and Taylor bringing up the ball,running the hi-post offense thru Miller and using Taylor as the last second drive option(or possible playmaker-remember the line about JT perhaps being the emergency 3rd PG a month or so ago?). For the back-up PG the team signs some journeyman PG.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: ty185</title><link>http://www.red94.net/houston-rockets-trade-trevor-ariza-in-four-team-trade-land-guard-courtney-lee/3442/comment-page-1/#comment-4775</link> <dc:creator><![CDATA[ty185]]></dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2010 06:14:32 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.red94.net/?p=3442#comment-4775</guid> <description><![CDATA[Clearly, Morey disagrees. Mind you, if rox really coveted Collison, they could directly trade with NO and land Collison + Posey for Ariza. Their salary match IIRC.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The fact that rox did not go that route and went after Lee should speak volumn about how much they like him.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clearly, Morey disagrees. Mind you, if rox really coveted Collison, they could directly trade with NO and land Collison + Posey for Ariza. Their salary match IIRC.</p><p>The fact that rox did not go that route and went after Lee should speak volumn about how much they like him.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: ATXROCKET</title><link>http://www.red94.net/houston-rockets-trade-trevor-ariza-in-four-team-trade-land-guard-courtney-lee/3442/comment-page-1/#comment-4774</link> <dc:creator><![CDATA[ATXROCKET]]></dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2010 05:57:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.red94.net/?p=3442#comment-4774</guid> <description><![CDATA[The idea that this isn&#039;t a salary dump is strictly a hometown bias view. I&#039;m not a huge Ariza fan, mind you, and did not love the signing last offseason - at least not at the price tag. So getting out from under that contract is not bad in my eyes. However, just because Morey &quot;coveted&quot; Lee in the draft a few years ago doesn&#039;t make him anymore than he is - a nice bench player on a good team - as a starter he&#039;s a liability on offense as an average 3 point shooter, no ball-handling ability, and no passing ability. His supposed defensive prowess was propped up by having Dwight Howard behind him in Orlando, and he&#039;s outmatched against bigger 2 guards. At best this was a wash in talent, but in reality Ariza had more upside. So at the end of the day, salary WAS the main motivating factor here. Collison was the best player moved here, and the Rockets would have been better served with him even in an overloaded backcourt than Lee. Overall, disappointing to me.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The idea that this isn&#39;t a salary dump is strictly a hometown bias view. I&#39;m not a huge Ariza fan, mind you, and did not love the signing last offseason &#8211; at least not at the price tag. So getting out from under that contract is not bad in my eyes. However, just because Morey &#8220;coveted&#8221; Lee in the draft a few years ago doesn&#39;t make him anymore than he is &#8211; a nice bench player on a good team &#8211; as a starter he&#39;s a liability on offense as an average 3 point shooter, no ball-handling ability, and no passing ability. His supposed defensive prowess was propped up by having Dwight Howard behind him in Orlando, and he&#39;s outmatched against bigger 2 guards. At best this was a wash in talent, but in reality Ariza had more upside. So at the end of the day, salary WAS the main motivating factor here. Collison was the best player moved here, and the Rockets would have been better served with him even in an overloaded backcourt than Lee. Overall, disappointing to me.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: LARocketsFan</title><link>http://www.red94.net/houston-rockets-trade-trevor-ariza-in-four-team-trade-land-guard-courtney-lee/3442/comment-page-1/#comment-4772</link> <dc:creator><![CDATA[LARocketsFan]]></dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2010 05:19:29 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.red94.net/?p=3442#comment-4772</guid> <description><![CDATA[Not that we need to make a deal for a SF, but Rumor Central threw out the possibility of us making a play for Tayshaun Prince.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;TP has worse stats, is 5 years older with only 2 more years of experience, and would cost ~$4.5 million more than Ariza at a $10,324,380 salary.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;m going to assume this was a pretty harmless joke, but would you think there&#039;s any weight to that rumor?]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not that we need to make a deal for a SF, but Rumor Central threw out the possibility of us making a play for Tayshaun Prince.</p><p>TP has worse stats, is 5 years older with only 2 more years of experience, and would cost ~$4.5 million more than Ariza at a $10,324,380 salary.</p><p>I&#39;m going to assume this was a pretty harmless joke, but would you think there&#39;s any weight to that rumor?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Bilguunw3</title><link>http://www.red94.net/houston-rockets-trade-trevor-ariza-in-four-team-trade-land-guard-courtney-lee/3442/comment-page-1/#comment-4770</link> <dc:creator><![CDATA[Bilguunw3]]></dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2010 04:42:10 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.red94.net/?p=3442#comment-4770</guid> <description><![CDATA[can houston trade some one like lee, martin, shane for a  good starting SF.&lt;br&gt;because we can rely on shane or budinger to large minutes.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>can houston trade some one like lee, martin, shane for a  good starting SF.<br />because we can rely on shane or budinger to large minutes.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Stephen</title><link>http://www.red94.net/houston-rockets-trade-trevor-ariza-in-four-team-trade-land-guard-courtney-lee/3442/comment-page-1/#comment-4765</link> <dc:creator><![CDATA[Stephen]]></dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2010 04:03:21 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.red94.net/?p=3442#comment-4765</guid> <description><![CDATA[Re Trevor and NO.&lt;br&gt;Move prob made to keep Chris Paul happy. They&#039;ve got a young SG they like and Trevor gives them the D Posey didn&#039;t on a consistent basis,a 3pt shooter for Paul feeds and a player willing to run-which really complements Paul. They&#039;d prob be happy w/a straight Ariza for Collins deal,unloading Posey&#039;s 2 yrs is a win for them.&lt;br&gt;BTW,Rockets prob used the Landry or other TPE to get Lee,which would make the new TPE equal to all of Trevor&#039;s salary.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Bad thing about this trade: I used to snicker at all the 4-team trades proposed on various forums because they never happen in real life. Well one just happened :(]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re Trevor and NO.<br />Move prob made to keep Chris Paul happy. They&#39;ve got a young SG they like and Trevor gives them the D Posey didn&#39;t on a consistent basis,a 3pt shooter for Paul feeds and a player willing to run-which really complements Paul. They&#39;d prob be happy w/a straight Ariza for Collins deal,unloading Posey&#39;s 2 yrs is a win for them.<br />BTW,Rockets prob used the Landry or other TPE to get Lee,which would make the new TPE equal to all of Trevor&#39;s salary.</p><p>Bad thing about this trade: I used to snicker at all the 4-team trades proposed on various forums because they never happen in real life. Well one just happened <img src="/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif" alt=":(" class="wp-smiley" /></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Keith</title><link>http://www.red94.net/houston-rockets-trade-trevor-ariza-in-four-team-trade-land-guard-courtney-lee/3442/comment-page-1/#comment-4760</link> <dc:creator><![CDATA[Keith]]></dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2010 03:05:05 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.red94.net/?p=3442#comment-4760</guid> <description><![CDATA[we also got a 6 million TPE which is gonna be huge!]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>we also got a 6 million TPE which is gonna be huge!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: apod</title><link>http://www.red94.net/houston-rockets-trade-trevor-ariza-in-four-team-trade-land-guard-courtney-lee/3442/comment-page-1/#comment-4757</link> <dc:creator><![CDATA[apod]]></dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2010 02:22:02 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.red94.net/?p=3442#comment-4757</guid> <description><![CDATA[sorry everyone.  I screwed up my response to RL re: Ariza&#039;s attitude.   Anyway, here it is...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Its my opinion based on observation.  I definitely don&#039;t have any insider information on that.  I did get to sit close a handful of times last year and watched most games on tv.  I saw Ariza getting frustrated and acting indignant at his teammates quite a bit.  I also witnessed a nasty episode where he gave a bunch of fans the bird when they called out to him in jest.  I know for a fact that the Rockets had to address this particular issue with him.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;My perception of Ariza is that he has a lot of growing up to do and was never particularly happy here.  I never once saw him with a smile on his face in a Rockets uniform.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorry everyone.  I screwed up my response to RL re: Ariza&#39;s attitude.   Anyway, here it is&#8230;</p><p>Its my opinion based on observation.  I definitely don&#39;t have any insider information on that.  I did get to sit close a handful of times last year and watched most games on tv.  I saw Ariza getting frustrated and acting indignant at his teammates quite a bit.  I also witnessed a nasty episode where he gave a bunch of fans the bird when they called out to him in jest.  I know for a fact that the Rockets had to address this particular issue with him.</p><p>My perception of Ariza is that he has a lot of growing up to do and was never particularly happy here.  I never once saw him with a smile on his face in a Rockets uniform.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: apod</title><link>http://www.red94.net/houston-rockets-trade-trevor-ariza-in-four-team-trade-land-guard-courtney-lee/3442/comment-page-1/#comment-4755</link> <dc:creator><![CDATA[apod]]></dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2010 02:20:47 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.red94.net/?p=3442#comment-4755</guid> <description><![CDATA[]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Scott</title><link>http://www.red94.net/houston-rockets-trade-trevor-ariza-in-four-team-trade-land-guard-courtney-lee/3442/comment-page-1/#comment-4756</link> <dc:creator><![CDATA[Scott ]]></dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2010 02:18:30 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.red94.net/?p=3442#comment-4756</guid> <description><![CDATA[I was surprised Orlando ever let Lee go.  Still, I&#039;m disappointed that Ariza is gone so soon - the consensus seemed to be that he played much better within the system after Martin arrived, tho he would probably never develop good hands.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was surprised Orlando ever let Lee go.  Still, I&#39;m disappointed that Ariza is gone so soon &#8211; the consensus seemed to be that he played much better within the system after Martin arrived, tho he would probably never develop good hands.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Thomas</title><link>http://www.red94.net/houston-rockets-trade-trevor-ariza-in-four-team-trade-land-guard-courtney-lee/3442/comment-page-1/#comment-4753</link> <dc:creator><![CDATA[Thomas]]></dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2010 01:51:51 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.red94.net/?p=3442#comment-4753</guid> <description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not familiar enough with Lee as a player to comment on the projected gains from this acquisition, but I am concerned about the defensive implications.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Morey stated before that Ariza was worth his contract for his defense alone; the spot-up shooting and slashing was a great bonus. Even if Lee is a quality defender, he would just be shoring up the 2 defensively, where we already know Martin is not particularly effective. Sure, we still have Battier, but we had him before. There&#039;s no net change there. If we move Budinger to the 3, have we really gained anything? Is a secondary benefit just evening out the roster positions?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I just feel (reflexively) like our defense has diminished.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;m not familiar enough with Lee as a player to comment on the projected gains from this acquisition, but I am concerned about the defensive implications.</p><p>Morey stated before that Ariza was worth his contract for his defense alone; the spot-up shooting and slashing was a great bonus. Even if Lee is a quality defender, he would just be shoring up the 2 defensively, where we already know Martin is not particularly effective. Sure, we still have Battier, but we had him before. There&#39;s no net change there. If we move Budinger to the 3, have we really gained anything? Is a secondary benefit just evening out the roster positions?</p><p>I just feel (reflexively) like our defense has diminished.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Roxfan</title><link>http://www.red94.net/houston-rockets-trade-trevor-ariza-in-four-team-trade-land-guard-courtney-lee/3442/comment-page-1/#comment-4752</link> <dc:creator><![CDATA[Roxfan]]></dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2010 01:30:33 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.red94.net/?p=3442#comment-4752</guid> <description><![CDATA[don&#039;t forget the $6mil TE that they picked up... which proved to be so valuable to financially struggling teams at the deadline.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>don&#39;t forget the $6mil TE that they picked up&#8230; which proved to be so valuable to financially struggling teams at the deadline.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>