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	<title>Comments on: Houston Rockets &#8211; Toronto Raptors discussion on Chris Bosh</title>
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		<title>By: YKOil</title>
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		<dc:creator>YKOil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 23:01:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is an interesting trade.  From a competitive viewpoint I am sure Houston and TO would both:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;a. rather have Brooks over Lowry and &lt;br&gt;b. Scola over Hill&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Houston might also prefer to give up Battier over Ariza.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Battier vs. Ariza isn&#039;t a big issue to me, per se, as Battier is an incredibly valuable trade chip and when combined with expiring contracts like that of Banks, Evans and Bellinelli (and Jeffries per this trade) could bring back a valuable player.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As a Raptor fan: Jeffries, Ariza, Brooks, Scola and the two 1st rounders would be an ideal trade.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As a Houston fan: Jeffries, Ariza, Lowry (signed of course), Hill and the two 1sts would probably make for a decent trade.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;All in all I would, as a Raptor fan, probably be quite happy with the Houston version of the trade as well - far better than anything that will come out of Miami/Chicago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is an interesting trade.  From a competitive viewpoint I am sure Houston and TO would both:</p>
<p>a. rather have Brooks over Lowry and <br />b. Scola over Hill</p>
<p>Houston might also prefer to give up Battier over Ariza.</p>
<p>Battier vs. Ariza isn&#39;t a big issue to me, per se, as Battier is an incredibly valuable trade chip and when combined with expiring contracts like that of Banks, Evans and Bellinelli (and Jeffries per this trade) could bring back a valuable player.</p>
<p>As a Raptor fan: Jeffries, Ariza, Brooks, Scola and the two 1st rounders would be an ideal trade.</p>
<p>As a Houston fan: Jeffries, Ariza, Lowry (signed of course), Hill and the two 1sts would probably make for a decent trade.</p>
<p>All in all I would, as a Raptor fan, probably be quite happy with the Houston version of the trade as well &#8211; far better than anything that will come out of Miami/Chicago.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Holako</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Holako</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 May 2010 09:52:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Possibly, but I&#039;m sick of gambling on young talented prospects. Would be nice if the Raptors made a commitment to bringing in seasoned pros for a change.</description>
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		<title>By: Pissed Off Pete</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pissed Off Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 May 2010 06:57:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>where do bosh&#039;s flimsy knee&#039;s rate in the equation? and his distaste for defense? and his penchant for being a black hole? in a motion-style offense last thing we need is another iso-player who bogards the ball. what about the progression of the martin/AB combo? how much of an effect will it have on chemistry? how can you win when your frontline would rather shoot jumpers than to bang in the paint? didnt the 04 lakers give everyone the blueprint that a bunch of &#039;sexy&#039; namebrands dont get the job done? the rockets are pretty close,  blowing it up and killing the cap for a guy not worth the max is a travesty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>where do bosh&#39;s flimsy knee&#39;s rate in the equation? and his distaste for defense? and his penchant for being a black hole? in a motion-style offense last thing we need is another iso-player who bogards the ball. what about the progression of the martin/AB combo? how much of an effect will it have on chemistry? how can you win when your frontline would rather shoot jumpers than to bang in the paint? didnt the 04 lakers give everyone the blueprint that a bunch of &#39;sexy&#39; namebrands dont get the job done? the rockets are pretty close,  blowing it up and killing the cap for a guy not worth the max is a travesty.</p>
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		<title>By: DickHuntr</title>
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		<dc:creator>DickHuntr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 May 2010 04:08:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>have you ever had a performance review w/ employer before? Doesn&#039;t sound like it!  When they ask &quot;where do you see yourself in 5 years?&quot; you tend to lie through your teeth as long as it keeps your good standing with the company and ensures a raise!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I wouldn&#039;t believe anything Bosh says about any of this at this point.  He&#039;s too smart.  At the end of the day anything he does/says from here on out will be about taking care of his family, pocketbook, and image.  Sure, he loves Toronto...has a lot of business interests there...so it&#039;s paramount that when he leaves the Raptors, he isn&#039;t eschewed like VC or TMac...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;He&#039;s just talking the talk my friend...I&#039;d heard Raps fans were a little bonkers...and reading this post only solidifies that theory in my head...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>have you ever had a performance review w/ employer before? Doesn&#39;t sound like it!  When they ask &#8220;where do you see yourself in 5 years?&#8221; you tend to lie through your teeth as long as it keeps your good standing with the company and ensures a raise!</p>
<p>I wouldn&#39;t believe anything Bosh says about any of this at this point.  He&#39;s too smart.  At the end of the day anything he does/says from here on out will be about taking care of his family, pocketbook, and image.  Sure, he loves Toronto&#8230;has a lot of business interests there&#8230;so it&#39;s paramount that when he leaves the Raptors, he isn&#39;t eschewed like VC or TMac&#8230;</p>
<p>He&#39;s just talking the talk my friend&#8230;I&#39;d heard Raps fans were a little bonkers&#8230;and reading this post only solidifies that theory in my head&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 May 2010 03:46:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>u are only looking at the # because Scola played more minutes last season.  If minutes are given to Hill, he is good too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>u are only looking at the # because Scola played more minutes last season.  If minutes are given to Hill, he is good too.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Holako</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Holako</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 May 2010 02:07:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d do this deal if Scola was involved, not Hill.</description>
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		<title>By: Sam Holako</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Holako</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 May 2010 02:04:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not delusional if you actually heard Chris Bosh&#039;s exit interview where he repeatedly alluded to staying if someone gives him a a good enough reason. The fact of the matter is the guy has been here 7 years, with deep rooted personal and business ties.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;One thing he did say during the exit interview was that he hates change, and his life has only changed twice (when he went to college, and when he went to the NBA).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The only reason he will leave the Raptors is if he doesn&#039;t buy into Colangelo&#039;s plan to improve the team, no other reason.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not delusional if you actually heard Chris Bosh&#39;s exit interview where he repeatedly alluded to staying if someone gives him a a good enough reason. The fact of the matter is the guy has been here 7 years, with deep rooted personal and business ties.</p>
<p>One thing he did say during the exit interview was that he hates change, and his life has only changed twice (when he went to college, and when he went to the NBA).</p>
<p>The only reason he will leave the Raptors is if he doesn&#39;t buy into Colangelo&#39;s plan to improve the team, no other reason.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 May 2010 01:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is no way in hell we&#039;d be taking on Hedo&#039;s contract as well, it wouldn&#039;t surprise me if Morey puts pressure in the raptors by talking to a 3rd team(like he did with the Knicks) and pulls off a 3-way trade where we got Bosh, another team gets a young piece from us, raps get a young piece from them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no way in hell we&#39;d be taking on Hedo&#39;s contract as well, it wouldn&#39;t surprise me if Morey puts pressure in the raptors by talking to a 3rd team(like he did with the Knicks) and pulls off a 3-way trade where we got Bosh, another team gets a young piece from us, raps get a young piece from them.</p>
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		<title>By: carlos</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 May 2010 00:14:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think getting bosh would be the best thing for the houston rockets..imagine our startup brooks,martin,bosh,yao,ariza!! ariza is still young and has the potential to be somone big and having bosh and yao controling the floor would be epic...get bosh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think getting bosh would be the best thing for the houston rockets..imagine our startup brooks,martin,bosh,yao,ariza!! ariza is still young and has the potential to be somone big and having bosh and yao controling the floor would be epic&#8230;get bosh</p>
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		<title>By: rahat_huq</title>
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		<dc:creator>rahat_huq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 May 2010 23:27:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just see him as a high potential prospect.  With his mindset, he won&#039;t ever be a superstar obviously, but if you are losing your franchise player, I would think you would want to extract the most high potential prospect possibility, just to give your franchise a CHANCE to get back on its feet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just see him as a high potential prospect.  With his mindset, he won&#39;t ever be a superstar obviously, but if you are losing your franchise player, I would think you would want to extract the most high potential prospect possibility, just to give your franchise a CHANCE to get back on its feet.</p>
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		<title>By: rahat_huq</title>
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		<dc:creator>rahat_huq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 May 2010 23:25:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed on Turkoglu - the team would have no escape route if this all goes south, and I don&#039;t think that is wise.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We talked about Ariza/Bud later.  Interesting because Bud is the more attractive asset, IMHO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed on Turkoglu &#8211; the team would have no escape route if this all goes south, and I don&#39;t think that is wise.</p>
<p>We talked about Ariza/Bud later.  Interesting because Bud is the more attractive asset, IMHO.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 May 2010 23:20:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rahat, I think you&#039;re dead on about Turkoglu. As great as our lineup would be with Bosh on paper, our second and third best players are both injury prone (especially in Yao&#039;s case) and we would leave no room to do any real retooling of the roster over the next few years should it be determined that Yao isn&#039;t the player we want him to be (that can stay on the floor, especially in the playoffs).  We&#039;d be stuck in the mud with that contract.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I also found it interesting that he would be more interested in Ariza than Bud.  I don&#039;t see any benefit from Toronto&#039;s perspective by taking on a more expensive Ariza- he&#039;s more suited as a role player on a good team, as we saw over the first 2/3 of the season with his struggles trying to carry the offense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rahat, I think you&#39;re dead on about Turkoglu. As great as our lineup would be with Bosh on paper, our second and third best players are both injury prone (especially in Yao&#39;s case) and we would leave no room to do any real retooling of the roster over the next few years should it be determined that Yao isn&#39;t the player we want him to be (that can stay on the floor, especially in the playoffs).  We&#39;d be stuck in the mud with that contract.</p>
<p>I also found it interesting that he would be more interested in Ariza than Bud.  I don&#39;t see any benefit from Toronto&#39;s perspective by taking on a more expensive Ariza- he&#39;s more suited as a role player on a good team, as we saw over the first 2/3 of the season with his struggles trying to carry the offense.</p>
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		<title>By: TLe</title>
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		<dc:creator>TLe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 May 2010 22:47:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rahat - I&#039;m curious as to why you&#039;re so high on Beasley.  Could you explain?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;While he is a decent big man, I feel as if he&#039;s the next coming of Stromile:  ridiculous unrealized upside.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But then again, maybe you see something I don&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rahat &#8211; I&#39;m curious as to why you&#39;re so high on Beasley.  Could you explain?</p>
<p>While he is a decent big man, I feel as if he&#39;s the next coming of Stromile:  ridiculous unrealized upside.  </p>
<p>But then again, maybe you see something I don&#39;t.</p>
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		<title>By: bearbearbear</title>
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		<dc:creator>bearbearbear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 May 2010 22:42:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This guy is delusional if he thinks Bosh is staying in Toronto.  I would be floored if he didn&#039;t leave the Raptors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This guy is delusional if he thinks Bosh is staying in Toronto.  I would be floored if he didn&#39;t leave the Raptors.</p>
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		<title>By: Anatta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anatta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 May 2010 22:22:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would it be possible for the Suns to get involved?  The Rockets almost had a deal with them before trade deadline.  A three-way scenario?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would it be possible for the Suns to get involved?  The Rockets almost had a deal with them before trade deadline.  A three-way scenario?</p>
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		<title>By: YKOil</title>
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		<dc:creator>YKOil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 May 2010 21:41:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would you do this S&amp;T:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Bosh, Calderon &amp; Toronto 2nd 2012&lt;br&gt;FOR&lt;br&gt;Ariza, one of Brooks/Lowry, one of Hill/Scola, Houston 1st 2010 and New York 1st 2012&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;use expiring contracts to even out salaries (Jeffries).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I went with Calderon for Houston because:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;a. I don&#039;t think Houston takes Turkoglu regardless;&lt;br&gt;b. Calderon is a proven bench strength and better fit/distributor for Houston if he has Yao/Bosh to send passes to;&lt;br&gt;c. Calderon&#039;s contract is cheaper and shorter than Turkoglu&#039;s (far more enticing to Houston imo)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;PG Brooks or Lowry/Calderon&lt;br&gt;SG Martin&lt;br&gt;SF Battier/Budinger&lt;br&gt;PF Bosh/Scola or Hill&lt;br&gt;.C Yao/Anderson&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Great trade for TO (compared to, say, Miami) all things considered as:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;1. Ariza is a nice fit for Turkoglu (if Turks is retained) or replacement for him if Turks is traded&lt;br&gt;2. Either one of Brooks or Lowry make for a nice back-up/co-chair for Jack&lt;br&gt;3. I much prefer Scola as it retains as much competitiveness as possible for the Raps but Hill is a nice consolation prize and has better upside&lt;br&gt;4. The picks allow us to continue to retool/help dump Turks&lt;br&gt;5. Calderon is one of the problem contracts and dumping it is a big plus&lt;br&gt;6. What we lose with Bosh we may get via the massive defensive upgrade that this trade represents (especially if its Scola at PF)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;PG Jack/Brooks or Lowry&lt;br&gt;SG Weems/DeRozan&lt;br&gt;SF Turks/Ariza&lt;br&gt;PF Johnson/Scola or Hill&lt;br&gt;.C Bargnani&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Banks, Bellinelli, Evans remain last-year contracts up for trade going forward.  Center spot remains an issue but hopefully a trade would deal with that. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Note: Bosh can only get 30% of the cap. If the new Cap number is $56.1 million this gives him a new starting number of $16.83. Newsflash: He actually takes a small dip on the 1st year of a new deal compared to the last year of his current one ($17.15).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Bosh ($16.83) + Calderon ($9.00) = $25.83 million</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would you do this S&#038;T:</p>
<p>Bosh, Calderon &#038; Toronto 2nd 2012<br />FOR<br />Ariza, one of Brooks/Lowry, one of Hill/Scola, Houston 1st 2010 and New York 1st 2012</p>
<p>use expiring contracts to even out salaries (Jeffries).</p>
<p>I went with Calderon for Houston because:</p>
<p>a. I don&#39;t think Houston takes Turkoglu regardless;<br />b. Calderon is a proven bench strength and better fit/distributor for Houston if he has Yao/Bosh to send passes to;<br />c. Calderon&#39;s contract is cheaper and shorter than Turkoglu&#39;s (far more enticing to Houston imo)</p>
<p>PG Brooks or Lowry/Calderon<br />SG Martin<br />SF Battier/Budinger<br />PF Bosh/Scola or Hill<br />.C Yao/Anderson</p>
<p>Great trade for TO (compared to, say, Miami) all things considered as:</p>
<p>1. Ariza is a nice fit for Turkoglu (if Turks is retained) or replacement for him if Turks is traded<br />2. Either one of Brooks or Lowry make for a nice back-up/co-chair for Jack<br />3. I much prefer Scola as it retains as much competitiveness as possible for the Raps but Hill is a nice consolation prize and has better upside<br />4. The picks allow us to continue to retool/help dump Turks<br />5. Calderon is one of the problem contracts and dumping it is a big plus<br />6. What we lose with Bosh we may get via the massive defensive upgrade that this trade represents (especially if its Scola at PF)</p>
<p>PG Jack/Brooks or Lowry<br />SG Weems/DeRozan<br />SF Turks/Ariza<br />PF Johnson/Scola or Hill<br />.C Bargnani</p>
<p>Banks, Bellinelli, Evans remain last-year contracts up for trade going forward.  Center spot remains an issue but hopefully a trade would deal with that. </p>
<p>Note: Bosh can only get 30% of the cap. If the new Cap number is $56.1 million this gives him a new starting number of $16.83. Newsflash: He actually takes a small dip on the 1st year of a new deal compared to the last year of his current one ($17.15).</p>
<p>Bosh ($16.83) + Calderon ($9.00) = $25.83 million</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 May 2010 21:09:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Something to chew on... what happens if we get him and Scola stays? Playing for sixth man of the year? Hell of a backup PF.</description>
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