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@  thejohnnygold : (13 March 2013 - 03:06 AM) it's the ol' rope-a-dope!  he was playing possum all this time.
@  phaketrash : (13 March 2013 - 02:47 AM) Sad that if he continued to do badly, we would be wary of him (thinking he could not get better again), but now that he's doing well, he'd never leave LAL haha. Almost like a Catch 22.
@  phaketrash : (13 March 2013 - 02:46 AM) Over the last 4 wins, he's averaged 24.8 pts, 16.3 rebounds, and a ridiculous 4 blocks! Both him and D'antoni says he feels better conditioned and physically able to run PnRs and rebound, etc. again.
@  phaketrash : (13 March 2013 - 02:43 AM) Anyone else been watching Dwight Howard the last 5 games or so? He seems like he's healed up nicely
@  2016Champions : (12 March 2013 - 09:14 PM) You make it sound like free throw points don't count. Ttyl.
@  thenit : (12 March 2013 - 09:02 PM) I'm heading out ttyl
@  thenit : (12 March 2013 - 09:01 PM) no but he gets to the line thats the reason, his other stats in 2p and 3p shots are not great. his FT helps him
@  2016Champions : (12 March 2013 - 09:00 PM) Harden leads all starting SGs in the league in TS% so he's very efficient unlike Westbrook.
@  thenit : (12 March 2013 - 08:58 PM) Harden is not a great shooter either, he is slightly better than westbrook, and you have melo having the same FG% but better 3s. different people score in different ways.
@  thenit : (12 March 2013 - 08:54 PM) haha
@  thenit : (12 March 2013 - 08:53 PM) he is not a great jumpshooter that we already know, I think he is a top 10 offensive player. I don't think we willagree on this tho
@  2016Champions : (12 March 2013 - 08:51 PM) And his TS% is nothing to go home bragging to mom about.
@  2016Champions : (12 March 2013 - 08:50 PM) PER is a stat that takes things like rebounds and steals into account. If we're talking about just offense, we should look at TS% too
@  thenit : (12 March 2013 - 08:48 PM) he is the 6th highest scorer and his per is higher than irving and curry, he is not better than parker and he is not a great defender but offensively yes he is definately top 10
@  thenit : (12 March 2013 - 08:47 PM) he is a pretty poor shooter but when he attacks there is no pg that can stop him.
@  2016Champions : (12 March 2013 - 08:46 PM) Tony Parker doesn't have his athleticism, but it was Parker abusing Westbrook in the playoffs. Scott Brooks eventually had no choice but to put Sefalosha on Parker.
@  thenit : (12 March 2013 - 08:45 PM) I think he is top 10 offensively because he abuses the other pgs because of his athletism and pace
@  2016Champions : (12 March 2013 - 08:38 PM) So does Jrue Holiday, doesn't make him a top 10 offensive player.
@  thenit : (12 March 2013 - 08:35 PM) he gets assists as well
@  2016Champions : (12 March 2013 - 06:18 PM) TS% .531
Takes way too many long 2's and 3's at an inefficient rate. If you eliminate his his fast break points opportunities his level of efficiency would actually hurt his team almost as much as he helps his team.

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#1 Jason

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    Posted 10 March 2013 - 06:24 PM

    IF we win say 46 or 47 games. He will have gotten the youngest team in NBA history into the playoffs with almost an entirely new team from a season ago, only one all-star player (who is only 23 yrs old), really no legitimate second scorer (Parsons is good, but he's more of a third scoring option on a playoff team), and a midseason trade which made us worse in terms of talent for this year (I like T-rob for the future but let's face it, Patterson and Morris are better players at this stage in their respective careers). McHale has had to patch together lineups and rotations on the fly, yet we continue to win. Of course, this would require us to go on a good run for the rest of our games, which I believe we will based on our schedule, but if we do win 46 or 47 games McHale is a worthy coach of the year candidate.

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    Posted 10 March 2013 - 06:31 PM

    Alot of McHale haters are not going to like this thread, but I think the haters are overlooking the fact he hasn't had a full off-season to work with all the guys he currently has on the roster yet. Lets see how the Rockets look next season first before we start getting too critical, and for now just be glad we're making the playoffs despite our youth and inexperience.



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    Posted 10 March 2013 - 06:32 PM

    While I disagree with your overall premise that McHale is a particularly good coach, and I think the metric of judging him via team wins is flawed, esp. in comparison to underinflated predictions by analysts prior to them realizing just how amazing Harden, Parsons and Asik would be (again, I think our success if due to the players -- by far), I would agree that CoY awards may very well be judged heavily on your record...so I guess it would not be that crazy if he were put up for suggestion. Shoot, Mike Brown would prob win it every yr if he and Lebron stayed at Cleveland and had even the semblance of a decent cast haha (and it hardly needed to be Mike Brown!).



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    Posted 10 March 2013 - 06:37 PM

    you have got to be kidding. while I will agree he may garner some support, anyone who has been watching the rockets this year knows we are winning not because of mchale, but inspite of mchale. he hasn't done anything that I would call coaching genius. we simply have a talented team. remember don chaney won coach of the year and then got fired the next season. i'm expecting the same for mchale if he wins it :P



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    Posted 10 March 2013 - 06:43 PM

    Alot of McHale haters are not going to like this thread, but I think the haters are overlooking the fact he hasn't had a full off-season to work with all the guys he currently has on the roster yet. Lets see how the Rockets look next season first before we start getting too critical, and for now just be glad we're making the playoffs despite our youth and inexperience.

    we are not haters. we simply will not accept excuses and subpar results. I would really like to see mchale have suscess because his suscess is our suscess, but he doesn't know enough about what he is doing to guide this team to where it needs to go.



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    Posted 10 March 2013 - 06:50 PM

    I remember watching Spoelstra and Scott Brooks alot when they first started coaching, and I saw tons of things I would have done differently. But it's the general consensus today that they are both good coaches, so either they improved or I was being overly critical of their coaching style - maybe both. Just saying.



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      Posted 10 March 2013 - 06:55 PM

      we are not haters. we simply will not accept excuses and subpar results. I would really like to see mchale have suscess because his suscess is our suscess, but he doesn't know enough about what he is doing to guide this team to where it needs to go.

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      Excuses for subpar results??? We are well ahead of the record that anyone could have imagined going into the season! Do explain to me how exactly that is "subpar results"! Therefore you and the rest of those on this board who bash McHale can very well be labeled "haters" because that's what you are. To say we are winning in spite of McHale and not because of McHale is a cop out and the ultimate "hater" comment. McHale has been a good coach for us this year, period. As much as all you haters want to argue otherwise, our record speaks for itself and Proves that McHale is doing a good job. None of you haters have proof, just opinion. Even if we won 60 games and made the finals y'all would claim that we didn't win it all Because of McHale and won 60 games in Spite of him. Lol.

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      Posted 10 March 2013 - 06:56 PM

      I can't help but feel that coaches somehow gain the consensus of being good whenever they have an imba team :P Soon we'll all be singing the praises of Vinny Del Negro! I kid. 

       

      I imagine CoY award is similar to Exec of the Year in that there are nba perceptions that influence it. Imagine if the LAL were doing better and a top 4 seed in the west. If they were just gelling or Dwight healed faster or whatever. Kupchak would be a lock for GM of the yr. Do I think he is an amazing GM? lol he's good, but come on, he got Nash and Dwight and Jamison, etc. because he's the GM of THE LAKERS. Yet if LAL were doing better, he'd prob win that award. Such is life.



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      Posted 10 March 2013 - 06:58 PM

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      Excuses for subpar results??? We are well ahead of the record that anyone could have imagined going into the season! Do explain to me how exactly that is "subpar results"! Therefore you and the rest of those on this board who bash McHale can very well be labeled "haters" because that's what you are. To say we are winning in spite of McHale and not because of McHale is a cop out and the ultimate "hater" comment. McHale has been a good coach for us this year, period. As much as all you haters want to argue otherwise, our record speaks for itself and Proves that McHale is doing a good job. None of you haters have proof, just opinion. Even if we won 60 games and made the finals y'all would claim that we didn't win it all Because of McHale and won 60 games in Spite of him. Lol.

       

      Jason, you do realize the irony in this right? Because you're the exact polar opposite with probably just as much proof. You're like a McHale version of a LOF...MOF haha. 



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      Posted 10 March 2013 - 07:03 PM

      I think Jason is either related to Mchale or is just a troll. No sane person would like, no love, no adore Mchale like this otherwise.


      Why so Serious? :D


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      Posted 10 March 2013 - 07:04 PM

      Jason, you do realize the irony in this right? Because you're the exact polar opposite with probably just as much proof. You're like a McHale version of a LOF...MOF haha. 

       

      That was my interpretation as well.


      Why so Serious? :D


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      Posted 10 March 2013 - 07:16 PM

      LOF?....MOF?... :( I don't know these acronyms...



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      Posted 10 March 2013 - 07:18 PM

      I think Jason is either related to Mchale or is just a troll. No sane person would like, no love, no adore Mchale like this otherwise.

      funny :lol:

       

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      Excuses for subpar results??? We are well ahead of the record that anyone could have imagined going into the season! Do explain to me how exactly that is "subpar results"! Therefore you and the rest of those on this board who bash McHale can very well be labeled "haters" because that's what you are. To say we are winning in spite of McHale and not because of McHale is a cop out and the ultimate "hater" comment. McHale has been a good coach for us this year, period. As much as all you haters want to argue otherwise, our record speaks for itself and Proves that McHale is doing a good job. None of you haters have proof, just opinion. Even if we won 60 games and made the finals y'all would claim that we didn't win it all Because of McHale and won 60 games in Spite of him. Lol.

       

      i just finished giving you a little credit for keeping your comments above board and then you do this. what....you think everyone who doesn't agree with you is a hater? very shortsighted on your part. you claim to have an open mind, but really your view is so narrow that you are unable to consider any possibilities but your own and those that agree with you. that's not the purpose of the discussions in this forum. it's the free exchange of idea and opinions. just because I don't see the world according to jason doesn't make me or anyone else a hater. check yourself b4 you wreck yourself



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      Posted 10 March 2013 - 07:23 PM

      LOF?....MOF?... :( I don't know these acronyms...

       

      haha sry. LOF = Lin Only Fan, thus MOF = McHale Only Fan. 



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      Posted 10 March 2013 - 07:24 PM

      check yourself b4 you wreck yourself

       

      I laughed out loud at that. Thank you. I hope those 90s sayings come back into vogue haha.



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      Posted 10 March 2013 - 07:26 PM

      I laughed out loud at that. Thank you. I hope those 90s sayings come back into vogue haha.

       

      Okay, here's a saying from my childhood, "I'm rubber, you're glue. Whatever you say bounces off of me and sticks to you."


      Why so Serious? :D


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      Posted 10 March 2013 - 07:27 PM

      haha sry. LOF = Lin Only Fan, thus MOF = McHale Only Fan. 

      thanks for breaking that down. I was having a little trouble with that :lol:



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      Posted 10 March 2013 - 07:29 PM

      Okay, here's a saying from my childhood, "I'm rubber, you're glue. Whatever you say bounces off of me and sticks to you."

      thanks I will save that for future reference :P



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        Posted 10 March 2013 - 07:31 PM

        Is this thread meant as a joke?  

         

        Although I believe we have somewhat overperformed based on what we all thought we would be this season, it is hardly Mchale who should get the credit.  Morey deserves an incredible amount of credit for putting this team together, and should get quite a few votes for Executive of the Year, but Mchale? Absolutely not.  Just because we are "well ahead of the record that anyone could have imagined going into the season," doesn't mean McHale deserves the award, there are many more factors that go into it, such as whether or not another coach could have done a better job(and that answer is YES).


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        Posted 10 March 2013 - 07:33 PM

        Okay, here's a saying from my childhood, "I'm rubber, you're glue. Whatever you say bounces off of me and sticks to you."

         

        If you can work that in seamlessly into a future post, maybe a shortened version and with RBF's swagger haha, I will give you much credit lol.

         

        Oh, I also just realized, since this is the interwebs, I should clarify one thing. Pretty much none of my posts are ever in a sarcastic tone. While I am a rather sarcastic person irl, sarcasm does not carry well online so I just refrain from using it as much as I can lol. Assume my comments are generally in a very earnest tone :)






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