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@  thejohnnygold : (13 March 2013 - 03:06 AM) it's the ol' rope-a-dope!  he was playing possum all this time.
@  phaketrash : (13 March 2013 - 02:47 AM) Sad that if he continued to do badly, we would be wary of him (thinking he could not get better again), but now that he's doing well, he'd never leave LAL haha. Almost like a Catch 22.
@  phaketrash : (13 March 2013 - 02:46 AM) Over the last 4 wins, he's averaged 24.8 pts, 16.3 rebounds, and a ridiculous 4 blocks! Both him and D'antoni says he feels better conditioned and physically able to run PnRs and rebound, etc. again.
@  phaketrash : (13 March 2013 - 02:43 AM) Anyone else been watching Dwight Howard the last 5 games or so? He seems like he's healed up nicely
@  2016Champions : (12 March 2013 - 09:14 PM) You make it sound like free throw points don't count. Ttyl.
@  thenit : (12 March 2013 - 09:02 PM) I'm heading out ttyl
@  thenit : (12 March 2013 - 09:01 PM) no but he gets to the line thats the reason, his other stats in 2p and 3p shots are not great. his FT helps him
@  2016Champions : (12 March 2013 - 09:00 PM) Harden leads all starting SGs in the league in TS% so he's very efficient unlike Westbrook.
@  thenit : (12 March 2013 - 08:58 PM) Harden is not a great shooter either, he is slightly better than westbrook, and you have melo having the same FG% but better 3s. different people score in different ways.
@  thenit : (12 March 2013 - 08:54 PM) haha
@  thenit : (12 March 2013 - 08:53 PM) he is not a great jumpshooter that we already know, I think he is a top 10 offensive player. I don't think we willagree on this tho
@  2016Champions : (12 March 2013 - 08:51 PM) And his TS% is nothing to go home bragging to mom about.
@  2016Champions : (12 March 2013 - 08:50 PM) PER is a stat that takes things like rebounds and steals into account. If we're talking about just offense, we should look at TS% too
@  thenit : (12 March 2013 - 08:48 PM) he is the 6th highest scorer and his per is higher than irving and curry, he is not better than parker and he is not a great defender but offensively yes he is definately top 10
@  thenit : (12 March 2013 - 08:47 PM) he is a pretty poor shooter but when he attacks there is no pg that can stop him.
@  2016Champions : (12 March 2013 - 08:46 PM) Tony Parker doesn't have his athleticism, but it was Parker abusing Westbrook in the playoffs. Scott Brooks eventually had no choice but to put Sefalosha on Parker.
@  thenit : (12 March 2013 - 08:45 PM) I think he is top 10 offensively because he abuses the other pgs because of his athletism and pace
@  2016Champions : (12 March 2013 - 08:38 PM) So does Jrue Holiday, doesn't make him a top 10 offensive player.
@  thenit : (12 March 2013 - 08:35 PM) he gets assists as well
@  2016Champions : (12 March 2013 - 06:18 PM) TS% .531
Takes way too many long 2's and 3's at an inefficient rate. If you eliminate his his fast break points opportunities his level of efficiency would actually hurt his team almost as much as he helps his team.

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#1 Jason

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    Posted 10 March 2013 - 04:27 AM

    Disgraceful performance

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    Posted 10 March 2013 - 04:35 AM

    Disgraceful performance

    this is the type of game a good coach can make all the difference in the world. mchale dropped the ball on this one because the rockets were clearly not ready to play



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      Posted 10 March 2013 - 04:37 AM

      this is the type of game a good coach can make all the difference in the world. mchale dropped the ball on this one because the rockets were clearly not ready to play


      So you blame McHale when we lose but you credit Morey when we win? That's logical.

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      Posted 10 March 2013 - 04:43 AM

      mchale did not have the rocket ready to play simple as that. I said our record is a product of the talent we have on hand not coaching genius. so yeah morey should get the lions share of credit for our record. mchale has good talent to work with, but on some nights he clearly fumbles the coaching ball.........good example TONIGHT 



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        Posted 10 March 2013 - 04:49 AM

        mchale did not have the rocket ready to play simple as that. I said our record is a product of the talent we have on hand not coaching genius. so yeah morey should get the lions share of credit for our record. mchale has good talent to work with, but on some nights he clearly fumbles the coaching ball.........good example TONIGHT

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        Disagree. It was more a product of terrible turnovers and just overall poor execution on both ends. Young team being inconsistent.

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        Posted 10 March 2013 - 04:57 AM

        if you want to continue to give mchale excuses go right ahead. I won't. exactly what point are we suppose to grow up.when I told you earlier in another thread that we would have 5-6 more wins with a better coach.....this is the type of game I am talking about. houston got beat by a team with far less talent. I don't want to hear the back to back game excuse because the suns were also on back to backs. 



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        Posted 10 March 2013 - 05:01 AM

        I don't blame McHale completely for the loss, we're a very young team and it really showed tonight with the turnovers, the rushed shots, and then at the end taking 10 seconds to foul.

         

        What that being said, here's what I would have done differently:

         

        1. Don't play Smith and Delfino together as our center and power forward combo, that's like saying "hey, free rebounds and lay-ups!".

        Thomas Robinson should be the only guy getting minutes behind Asik at center, he's short but he protects the paint alot better than Smith does as he clearly desmonstrated against the Mavs.

         

        2. When we need to make an important inbounds pass, don't give it to a rookie to make the pass. Even Harden can make the inbounds pass and come back in to get it, but I would have Lin make the pass.

         

        3. Stop letting Beverley close out games, it worked once but it's not working anymore so get over it. Lin was huge in closing out the last game against the Warriors, he should have been rewarded by closing out again this game.

         

        4. Have either Lin or Harden on the floor at all times, it's common sense not rocket science!



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        Posted 10 March 2013 - 05:03 AM

        I don't blame McHale completely for the loss, we're a very young team and it really showed tonight with the turnovers, the rushed shots, and then at the end taking 10 seconds to foul.

         

        What that being said, here's what I would have done differently:

         

        1. Don't play Smith and Delfino together as our center and power forward combo, that's like saying "hey, free rebounds and lay-ups!".

        Thomas Robinson should be the only guy getting minutes behind Asik at center, he's short but he protects the paint alot better than Smith does as he clearly desmonstrated against the Mavs.

         

        2. When we need to make an important inbounds pass, don't give it to a rookie to make the pass. Even Harden can make the inbounds pass and come back in to get it, but I would have Lin make the pass.

         

        3. Stop letting Beverley close out games, it worked once but it's not working anymore so get over it. Lin was huge in closing out the last game against the Warriors, he should have been rewarded by closing out again this game.

         

        4. Have either Lin or Harden on the floor at all times, it's common sense not rocket science!

        so why do you think mchale didn't do any of the items you mentioned?



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          Posted 10 March 2013 - 05:03 AM

          if you want to continue to give mchale excuses go right ahead. I won't. exactly what point are we suppose to grow up.when I told you earlier in another thread that we would have 5-6 more wins with a better coach.....this is the type of game I am talking about. houston got beat by a team with far less talent. I don't want the hear the back to back game excuse because the suns were also on back to backs.


          On the road, inexperienced/young team. That's not an excuse, it's reality. Take a look at the standings and see how many teams even have good road records. Not very many at all. Youngest team in the league and on the road is tough. 9 of our next 10 are at home. I fully expect McHale to coach us to a 7-3 record during that span.

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          Posted 10 March 2013 - 05:11 AM

          On the road, inexperienced/young team. That's not an excuse, it's reality. Take a look at the standings and see how many teams even have good road records. Not very many at all. Youngest team in the league and on the road is tough. 9 of our next 10 are at home. I fully expect McHale to coach us to a 7-3 record during that span.

          jason that's an excuse. we have played 63 games this year and we are still having a problem focusing even though we are in the mist of a playoff push while playing a team with far less talent than us. that's bad coaching. tell me if you agree with his rotations tonight? how he played the matchups? being young is no longer a valid excuse to me considering how many games we already have under our belt.



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          Posted 10 March 2013 - 05:14 AM

          so why do you think mchale didn't do any of the items you mentioned?

           

          And why do you think you should try it up the butt?

           

          Oh my bad, I shouldn't put words in your mouth, or anything else for that matter. I'd prefer if you do the same :)



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          Posted 10 March 2013 - 05:17 AM

          And why do you think you should try it up the butt?

           

          Oh my bad, I shouldn't put words in your mouth, or anything else for that matter. I'd prefer if you do the same :)

          you can dish it out, but can't take it huh :lol:  I asked you a valid question and you responded like a mad kid :lol:



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          Posted 10 March 2013 - 05:19 AM

          It's not really a valid question, you asked me why I think something I don't. So I asked you why you think something you don't... unless I'm wrong and you actually do think you should try it up the butt in which case it was totally a lucky guess lol



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          Posted 10 March 2013 - 05:27 AM

          It's not really a valid question, you asked me why I think something I don't. So I asked you why you think something you don't... unless I'm wrong and you actually do think you should try it up the butt in which case it was totally a lucky guess lol

          maybe you should read your statement again. you said you don't blame mchale yet you list items you think he should be doing. I asked you why do you think he is not doing it since you clam it's not rocket science. that's a valid question. what you afraid I will point out a flaw in your statement? also you can save your butt jokes for yourself. I don't feel the need to insult you ..........just keep slapping you with the facts :lol:



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          Posted 10 March 2013 - 05:44 AM

          You clearly have a problem with reading and comprehension. I said I don't blame McHale completely for the loss, do you understand the word "completely"???

           

          I don't like McHale so we agree on that, he has a lot of improving to do and I wish SVG or Phil Jackson was our coach right now, but we can't blame McHale that Harden and Lin turned the ball over so many times. We can't blame McHale that we have the youngest team in the league. We gotta be a little reasonable at least.  



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          Posted 10 March 2013 - 05:59 AM

          You clearly have a problem with reading and comprehension. I said I don't blame McHale completely for the loss, do you understand the word "completely"???

           

          I don't like McHale so we agree on that, he has a lot of improving to do and I wish SVG or Phil Jackson was our coach right now, but we can't blame McHale that Harden and Lin turned the ball over so many times. We can't blame McHale that we have the youngest team in the league. We gotta be a little reasonable at least.  

          you still didn't answer the question. you have clearly listed items that mchale should be considering for improvement of the team. why in your opinion has he fail to explore these options? (IMO) it's because he doesn't know enough to exploit the advantages. true we are a young team in age, but we have played enough games this year. its time to stop making the same mistakes over and over. we were clearly at a talent advantage heading into this game,but lossed.  as for SVG I agree he is a very good coach. I would like to see the rockets get him. phil is untouchable for us....he won't come here for such a young team.



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            Posted 10 March 2013 - 06:24 AM

            those unforced turnovers were gross.

            lack of rebounding by anyone other than asik.

            the past 2 games are frustrating when all the team seems to know how to do is get open for 3s and take them. sometimes there is a real lack of inside game (pick and rolls, give and gos).

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            Posted 10 March 2013 - 06:29 AM

            those unforced turnovers were gross.

            lack of rebounding by anyone other than asik.

            the past 2 games are frustrating when all the team seems to know how to do is get open for 3s and take them. sometimes there is a real lack of inside game (pick and rolls, give and gos).

            totally agree



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            Posted 10 March 2013 - 06:49 AM

            you still didn't answer the question. you have clearly listed items that mchale should be considering for improvement of the team. why in your opinion has he fail to explore these options? (IMO) it's because he doesn't know enough to exploit the advantages. true we are a young team in age, but we have played enough games this year. its time to stop making the same mistakes over and over. we were clearly at a talent advantage heading into this game,but lossed.  as for SVG I agree he is a very good coach. I would like to see the rockets get him. phil is untouchable for us....he won't come here for such a young team.

            There isn't really an answer to why McHale is not a perfect coach, other than the fact no coach is perfect. McHale makes alot of questionable decisions, but there's also alot of things I like about him too - he has a great understanding of how the game of basketball should be played. I think McHale deserves at least one full off-season with all these guys, and if he still sucks after that I will join the "fire McHale!" bandwagon.



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            Posted 10 March 2013 - 07:01 AM

            There isn't really an answer to why McHale is not a perfect coach, other than the fact no coach is perfect. McHale makes alot of questionable decisions, but there's also alot of things I like about him too - he has a great understanding of how the game of basketball should be played. I think McHale deserves at least one full off-season with all these guys, and if he still sucks after that I will join the "fire McHale!" bandwagon.

            I will admit there are some things I like that mchale does, but very few. when I look at mchale I still see the same coach/GM who failed in minny. he is still making some of the same errors. that's not progress to me. I don't think we should fire mchale right now, but at the end of this year YES. we don't need someone who is trying to learn on the job. we need someone who already knows what they are doing. (IMO) mchale clearly does not. the qualities mchale bring to the table we can get from assistant coaches. I don't think we need a perfect coach, but we do need one who is better at it than mchale.






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