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@  thejohnnygold : (13 March 2013 - 03:06 AM) it's the ol' rope-a-dope!  he was playing possum all this time.
@  phaketrash : (13 March 2013 - 02:47 AM) Sad that if he continued to do badly, we would be wary of him (thinking he could not get better again), but now that he's doing well, he'd never leave LAL haha. Almost like a Catch 22.
@  phaketrash : (13 March 2013 - 02:46 AM) Over the last 4 wins, he's averaged 24.8 pts, 16.3 rebounds, and a ridiculous 4 blocks! Both him and D'antoni says he feels better conditioned and physically able to run PnRs and rebound, etc. again.
@  phaketrash : (13 March 2013 - 02:43 AM) Anyone else been watching Dwight Howard the last 5 games or so? He seems like he's healed up nicely
@  2016Champions : (12 March 2013 - 09:14 PM) You make it sound like free throw points don't count. Ttyl.
@  thenit : (12 March 2013 - 09:02 PM) I'm heading out ttyl
@  thenit : (12 March 2013 - 09:01 PM) no but he gets to the line thats the reason, his other stats in 2p and 3p shots are not great. his FT helps him
@  2016Champions : (12 March 2013 - 09:00 PM) Harden leads all starting SGs in the league in TS% so he's very efficient unlike Westbrook.
@  thenit : (12 March 2013 - 08:58 PM) Harden is not a great shooter either, he is slightly better than westbrook, and you have melo having the same FG% but better 3s. different people score in different ways.
@  thenit : (12 March 2013 - 08:54 PM) haha
@  thenit : (12 March 2013 - 08:53 PM) he is not a great jumpshooter that we already know, I think he is a top 10 offensive player. I don't think we willagree on this tho
@  2016Champions : (12 March 2013 - 08:51 PM) And his TS% is nothing to go home bragging to mom about.
@  2016Champions : (12 March 2013 - 08:50 PM) PER is a stat that takes things like rebounds and steals into account. If we're talking about just offense, we should look at TS% too
@  thenit : (12 March 2013 - 08:48 PM) he is the 6th highest scorer and his per is higher than irving and curry, he is not better than parker and he is not a great defender but offensively yes he is definately top 10
@  thenit : (12 March 2013 - 08:47 PM) he is a pretty poor shooter but when he attacks there is no pg that can stop him.
@  2016Champions : (12 March 2013 - 08:46 PM) Tony Parker doesn't have his athleticism, but it was Parker abusing Westbrook in the playoffs. Scott Brooks eventually had no choice but to put Sefalosha on Parker.
@  thenit : (12 March 2013 - 08:45 PM) I think he is top 10 offensively because he abuses the other pgs because of his athletism and pace
@  2016Champions : (12 March 2013 - 08:38 PM) So does Jrue Holiday, doesn't make him a top 10 offensive player.
@  thenit : (12 March 2013 - 08:35 PM) he gets assists as well
@  2016Champions : (12 March 2013 - 06:18 PM) TS% .531
Takes way too many long 2's and 3's at an inefficient rate. If you eliminate his his fast break points opportunities his level of efficiency would actually hurt his team almost as much as he helps his team.

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Why Chandler Parsons is the best value contract in the NBA.


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#1 2016Champions

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 11:50 PM

Nothing everyone here doesn't already know, but still puts a smile on my face :)

 

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    Posted 09 March 2013 - 12:00 AM

    Parsons is the man

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    Posted 09 March 2013 - 12:06 AM

    Parsons is definitely amazing. He does off the ball stuff really well too. Versatile role. Works hard. Plays a lot of minutes. Does great things for the team -- I mean man. I sort of want his release to look a little less funky and for there to be a bit more arc to his shots, but hey, now I'm just being unnecessarily picky haha.



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    Posted 09 March 2013 - 12:11 AM

    I'm already dreading the day that we can't afford to re-sign him... :(



    #5 2016Champions

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    Posted 09 March 2013 - 12:13 AM

    I'm already dreading the day that we can't afford to re-sign him... :(

     

    That doesn't have to happen if we trade Lin before then :D

     

    There is an abundance of average to good point guards in the league. Guys like Parsons are much harder to find.



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    Posted 09 March 2013 - 12:22 AM

    Can we go over the cap to re-sign Parsons in 2 yrs time?



    #7 timetodienow1234567

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    Posted 09 March 2013 - 12:22 AM

    I agree, but would put him second. Lebron is so much better than the rest of the field he has to be number one even at 16 mil

    Why so Serious? :D


    #8 2016Champions

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    Posted 09 March 2013 - 12:28 AM

    True, Lebron's worth extends beyond the basketball court too.

     

    Anyway, in 2009, Forbes valued the Cavaliers at $476 million and the Heat at $364 million. Four years later, they valued the Cavaliers at $434 million … and the Heat at $625 million. Gee, I wonder what changed.

    http://www.grantland...st-bargains-nba



    #9 Cooper

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      Posted 09 March 2013 - 12:29 AM

      Yeah I'd still say lebron is a better value. I think they keep parsons whenever his deal comes up(cap doesn't matter with bird rights) he will be more expense but nothing outrageous and who knows will be on the roster by then outside of Harden.

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      Posted 09 March 2013 - 12:31 AM

      Yes, LBJ definitely takes the cake. As noted in that same linked Grantland piece, LBJ is easily worth a $75M contract :P



      #11 timetodienow1234567

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      Posted 09 March 2013 - 12:32 AM

      Worst contracts in the NBA.

      1) Joe Johnson

      2) Kobe

      3) STAT(although he's gotten healthier, but still not worth 20 mil a year)

      4) Boozer

      5) Kris Humphries(although he has a time machine)


      Why so Serious? :D


      #12 2016Champions

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      Posted 09 March 2013 - 12:53 AM

      I would put Humphries 1st because he is stinking it up.

       

      Amare is playing well offensively but horribly defensively so I'll put him 2nd.

       

      Yes, Joe Johnson is ridiculously overpaid but I love his game and how hard he plays.

       

      Boozer is a great PnR finisher on a team that doesn't really utalize the PnR (especially when Rose is running the show). 

       

      Kobe is also getting paid a ridiculous amount but the Lakers were top 6 in offensive efficiency for half the season mostly thanks to Kobe. As much as it pains me to admit it, Kobe is still one of the best offensive players in the league.



      #13 phaketrash

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      Posted 09 March 2013 - 12:53 AM

      http://www.grantland...t-contracts-nba

       

      Funny you should mention worst contracts! Amare and Joe Johnson definitely top the list hahaha. But don't forget players like Bargnani guys! :P

       

      Kobe is overpaid, but not by much. Guy is like 33 or 34 and still playing great.



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      Posted 09 March 2013 - 02:08 AM

      Kobe is suffering from KG syndrome....eats up all the money and then whines about not having sufficient help.  Kobe could play for $0 (not that he would), be fine, and surround himself with more talent than he has now....ya know, if he wanted those rings.

       

      As for Parsons....I think he will be worth a lot by the time his contract is up.  His BBall IQ is very high, he can shoot, dribble, dish, and play D...what more do you want from a bball player?  He still hasn't hit his ceiling and he is in the upper part of the top 10 at his position, IMO.  I think a guy like him could pull $12M+ on the open market in a couple of years.



      #15 timetodienow1234567

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      Posted 09 March 2013 - 02:11 AM

      If he continues to progress. Right now he's worth 6 mil a year.

      Why so Serious? :D


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      Posted 09 March 2013 - 02:34 AM

      Agreed, I am presuming he reaches a higher level by then.  in my eyes, the only things hindering him right now are inexperience and he could use a little more strength.  Both of those things will come with time.



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        Posted 09 March 2013 - 02:47 AM

        Can we go over the cap to re-sign Parsons in 2 yrs time?


        Yes. Bird Rights.

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        Posted 09 March 2013 - 02:48 AM

        Ack, $12M a yr on the open market is really tough and ugly for us to swallow. $8M easy in 2 yrs, but $12M, man...



        #19 phaketrash

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        Posted 09 March 2013 - 02:50 AM

        Kobe definitely could have taken less, but he wasn't going to take $0. Let's say he took a Lebron-like discount -- the current LAL team would still be...the current LAL team. They operate above the luxury tax so often already lol. The only thing a more reasonable Kobe contract would do is save the Buss family more $$$.



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          Posted 09 March 2013 - 02:56 AM

          Kobe definitely could have taken less, but he wasn't going to take $0. Let's say he took a Lebron-like discount -- the current LAL team would still be...the current LAL team. They operate above the luxury tax so often already lol. The only thing a more reasonable Kobe contract would do is save the Buss family more $$$.


          Well considering their tax bill they could use the savings. The death tax is a killer. Gonna be about $500 million.




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