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@  ale11 : (22 April 2016 - 08:36 PM) I know everyone is already asking for KJ....but I have to say: I wish JBB tried putting KJ on Livingston, I'm sure he wouldn't get bullied in the post like Pat is. Depending on matchups, I'd like Harden to guard him as well. There would be no risks of gifting any 3's
@  txtdo1411 : (22 April 2016 - 07:09 PM) Finally JB sat Brewer. I wish we would stop playing Terry as well. Missed multiple wide open 3s, and was getting abused defensively. I'd much rather see KJ come in as a back up guard than Terry.
@  DenverRocket : (22 April 2016 - 04:35 AM) Ariza is having a tough time, but I reckon he will come back big in the next game - he just can't keep missing open threes.
@  Mario Peña : (22 April 2016 - 04:31 AM) Yes...
@  majik19 : (22 April 2016 - 04:28 AM) but pretty amazing we did pull that off. As Rahat said, without Curry we are at best as good as GS.
@  majik19 : (22 April 2016 - 04:27 AM) did anyone else notice that MICHAEL BEASLEY was defending green on that last play? lucky... also that inbound at the end Ariza almost gave it to them! at least throw it at our basket, not theirs!
@  majik19 : (22 April 2016 - 04:15 AM) everything on the line and ariza blows a layup. surprise surprise. Ariza should never, ever dribble.
@  slick shoes : (21 April 2016 - 10:46 PM) It's rumored that JVG has had his eye on our coaching role for a bit. I just hope that if he IS our guy, then he ends up being the guy we've all wanted. I would be curious as to how Harden responds to JVG.
@  DenverRocket : (21 April 2016 - 10:36 PM) Being reported that he's agreed to 5yrs for $35m with the Wizards. Looks like JVG could be our man.
@  slick shoes : (21 April 2016 - 12:12 PM) Let everyone chase Scott Brooks. I don't want him and thinking he'll lure in KD does not make sense to me.
@  majik19 : (20 April 2016 - 08:13 PM) Looks like the Wizards have the same idea many of us do: ESPN sources say Washington is actively intensifying its Scotty Brooks pursuit in hopes of sealing a Brooks deal before Houston's job opens.
@  majik19 : (20 April 2016 - 05:40 PM) at 10 million per year - wow. Reports are JVG and Scott Brooks are top candidates for us now.
@  slick shoes : (20 April 2016 - 05:34 PM) Well Thibbs is out.
@  DenverRocket : (19 April 2016 - 10:39 PM) Yep, but even he couldn't handle Rondo last year. The way Dwight played, last night, reminded me of Rondo for the MAvs in the first round last year. Maybe we should feck him off for the final two games?
@  thenit : (19 April 2016 - 07:46 PM) look at Carlyle what a good coach and players with no ego and effort can do. AFter getting killed he made adjustments and they won a game despite clearly being less talented than OKC
@  thenit : (19 April 2016 - 07:45 PM) DMO also started off well, then after about 5.30 min into the game he sits him and brings him back with about 5.30 left in the 2nd Q all cold and no rhytm. Brings capela in for 2.45 min ? Whats the point ? U either play him more or don't play him at all.
@  thenit : (19 April 2016 - 07:44 PM) JBB is terrible he still hasnt a set rotation or starting lineup uses 10 players in 1Q and one of them played the whole Q. So 9 players saw the floor on the other 4 positions.
@  thejohnnygold : (19 April 2016 - 02:34 PM) The TNT crew didn't hold back. It didn't bother me because it's all true. In fact, this team is so bad it broke the fan forum that supports it.
@  Mario Peña : (19 April 2016 - 05:22 AM) It's been tough.
@  majik19 : (19 April 2016 - 05:10 AM) gosh i hate watching this team. just can't do it.

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Houston Rockets 97, Golden State Warriors 96: One more game


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#1 Red94

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    Posted 22 April 2016 - 07:31 AM

    New post: Houston Rockets 97, Golden State Warriors 96: One more game
    By: Paul McGuire

    I have no idea what just happened.

     

    The Golden State Warriors just kept chipping away at what had once been a 17-point Houston Rockets lead, and had even surged to take a one-point lead with less than a minute left. The Rockets got the lead, and just needed to hold on the ball. Then they nearly lost the ball once, failed to inbound the ball twice, and lobbed a bizarre pass to Michael Beasley which the Warriors easily picked off. Ian Clark raced down the court, got a layup, and the game seemed over.

     

    Then James Harden took a shot straight out of Jordan's 1998 playbook to bring the score to 97 in just ten seconds. And Steve Kerr's response, with 3 seconds left, was to give the ball to Draymond Green about 35 feet away from the court. Even if Green hadn't dribbled it off of his foot, I struggle to figure out what Kerr was planning with this.

     

    But Green did dribble the ball off his foot, and so the Rockets survive for another game. And while this means that Stephen Curry will probably return in Game 4 to bury the Rockets behind an artillery barrage of three-pointers, it was still a pretty nice win.

     

    So how did the Rockets get their big lead to start off the game, and how did they nearly give it all up? It comes down to Dwight Howard.

     

    Howard's boxscore numbers for tonight were nice, with 13 points on 6-9 shooting and 13 rebounds. But most of that production came in the first quarter. In the first, Howard dunked all over Bogut, Ezeli, and then Golden State's third-string center James McAdoo. Howard got alley-oops and dominated the glass, and the Rockets hustled hard to force the Warriors into turnovers. Even though the Rockets shot sub-40 percent in the first quarter, that combination of transition and paint play gave Houston the biggest lead of this series.

     

    But after watching his centers get eaten up in the first half, Kerr ran small ball for much of the game. He started Marreese Speights at center in the second quarter, and Speights just hit jumpers over and over again, keeping Howard out of the paint. And from there, the transition game dried up and the Rockets offense fell back to "James Harden, do something."

     

    Honestly, that entire sequence with Speights shows how much Howard has fallen off defensively. Prime Dwight was a great shot blocker. But what made him such a defensive monster was how he could combine that shot blocking ability with a strength  that could overpower smaller big men like Speights or Al Harrington back in the day and a quickness which let him keep up with players on the perimeter. But he couldn't do that to Speights. And outside of one great defensive position against Andre Iguodala, he could not do it against the Warriors perimeter players either.

     

    And in addition to playing perimeter-based jump shooters, the Warriors ran with the hacking strategy, which worked today. Bickerstaff probably waited too long to get Howard out of the game when the Warriors began to hack, as Howard (along with Josh Smith, who the Warriors hacked) failed to hit much of anything at the free throw line.

     

    But at the end of the day, going big worked so well for about one and a half quarters that it let Houston survive the other two and a half quarters. And there was Harden. Harden did have some stretches where I felt he was isoing and making fancy dribble moves for too long, but oh was he a wonder to watch tonight. While a 35-9-8 night for Harden is hardly anything unusual, I cannot remember one where he did it looking this cool in the process. It was fantastic to watch, and above all won the Rockets the game on that stepback.

     

    The Warriors can play hard, smart defense with or without Curry, and Houston just does not have an answer for how to score when Harden is on the bench (Reggie Miller, in a display of brilliant insight, suggested that the Rockets should run a lot more Howard post-ups). But for tonight, Harden, Howard, and the rest did just enough. And while Coach Bickerstaff did have some mistakes down the stretch, kudos to him for playing Corey Brewer just three minutes.

     

    Will the Warriors bring back Curry in Game 4? TNT reported that the Warriors expect him to. So after narrowly these current Warriors now, I guess we might sit back, watch Golden State assume their final form, and knock the stuffing silly out of these Rockets.

     

    However, the factors that helped Houston to victory would exist with or without Curry. So perhaps it will work again in Houston as long as they can execute.


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    Posted 22 April 2016 - 12:15 PM

    I love how the "bench" guys that are featured in this video either didn't play, played three minutes, or were given the proverbial shaft in the second half. These guys are not even excited to take the lead in a playoff game.  


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    when you win two games in a row that's called a winning streak.

    trickin' six digits on kicks and still holdin'.

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    Posted 22 April 2016 - 02:15 PM

    It was nice to see the Houston team I thought we had this year.  I wish I knew what motivated these guys.

     

    We even got to see a taste of what can happen if Harden plays off the ball some.  He may not have the kind of defense-bending gravity that Curry has, but all it took was the slightest shift one way to open up that lane for the easy bucket.  I think defenders, desperate to keep the ball out of his hands, will bite on that fake plenty of times over the course of a game.  If we want to win another game I think there will need to be more of that...and more of Dwight showing who the baddest man on the floor is...and more of JBB keeping certain other players off the floor.


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      Posted 22 April 2016 - 03:09 PM

      And Steve Kerr's response, with 3 seconds left, was to give the ball to Draymond Green about 35 feet away from the court. Even if Green hadn't dribbled it off of his foot, I struggle to figure out what Kerr was planning with this.

       

      But Green did dribble the ball off his foot, and so the Rockets survive for another game. And while this means that Stephen Curry will probably return in Game 4 to bury the Rockets behind an artillery barrage of three-pointers, it was still a pretty nice win.

       

       

      The reason he threw it into Green is because, of all people, Beasley was guarding him. In fact, I suspect that had something to do with why Green dribbled it off his foot - his eyes were huge because he saw the feast in front of him. So the real question - why the hell was Beasley in there playing defense on arguably their best player (with Curry out)? 

       

       

       

      While a 35-9-8 night for Harden is hardly anything unusual, I cannot remember one where he did it looking this cool in the process. It was fantastic to watch, and above all won the Rockets the game on that stepback.

       

      This may be the biggest takeaway. If Harden can "look cool" and we can steal a game from the Warriors, maybe the Rockets gain back some credibility with free agents. 

       

      I also want to point out we didn't win this game with fluky 3 pt shooting (only shot 30%), so this feels sustainable with Curry out. I wouldn't expect Kerr to overreact to just one game and throw a not-100% Curry out there for game 4 (especially since they still have home court advantage), but if he doesn't, I feel like we have a real shot in game 4. 


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      #5 majik19

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        Posted 22 April 2016 - 03:22 PM

        Also I just saw Green's takedown of Beasley on the final play. That has to be a 1 game suspension right?

         

        https%3A//vine.co/d6ca124a-856d-4de3-96dd-ad8b36f370ba 


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        #6 majik19

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          Posted 22 April 2016 - 03:44 PM

          I suddenly can't edit my posts but here is a link that actually works:

           

          https://vine.co/v/iFVIDY7a0l7 


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          Posted 22 April 2016 - 05:17 PM

          I suddenly can't edit my posts but here is a link that actually works:

           

          https://vine.co/v/iFVIDY7a0l7 

           

          Editing posts is limited to 5 minutes after submitting them.  Sorry, but them's the rules.  :)

           

          That play was funny, but I don't think it was malicious in any way.  However, this one by Bogut angers me a bit and I think the league should look at it.  Considering how a near identical play ended Love's season last year and potentially altered the eventual champion I think they need to put an end to this kind of stuff.

           

          For reference, here is Olynyk's "basketball play".

           


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          Posted 22 April 2016 - 05:37 PM

          Editing posts is limited to 5 minutes after submitting them.  Sorry, but them's the rules.  :)

           

          That play was funny, but I don't think it was malicious in any way.  However, this one by Bogut angers me a bit and I think the league should look at it.  Considering how a near identical play ended Love's season last year and potentially altered the eventual champion I think they need to put an end to this kind of stuff.

           

          For reference, here is Olynyk's "basketball play".

           

           

          Completely agree on that Bogut play. Funny thing is, or maybe sad thing is, Golden State benefited from it by getting a technical free throw. You know because throwing the ball in the direction of a player is a worse offense than trying to rip somebody's arm off...


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            Posted 22 April 2016 - 05:46 PM

            The reason he threw it into Green is because, of all people, Beasley was guarding him. In fact, I suspect that had something to do with why Green dribbled it off his foot - his eyes were huge because he saw the feast in front of him. So the real question - why the hell was Beasley in there playing defense on arguably their best player (with Curry out)? 

             

             

            This may be the biggest takeaway. If Harden can "look cool" and we can steal a game from the Warriors, maybe the Rockets gain back some credibility with free agents. 

             

            I also want to point out we didn't win this game with fluky 3 pt shooting (only shot 30%), so this feels sustainable with Curry out. I wouldn't expect Kerr to overreact to just one game and throw a not-100% Curry out there for game 4 (especially since they still have home court advantage), but if he doesn't, I feel like we have a real shot in game 4. 

            Agree, once again JBB has no clue. Beasley always score a bunch but somehow always end up negative in +- ratings. I can't see why he was on the floor. Also how hard is it to setup a inbound play ? Several times we had trouble at the end of the game and the worst one was the last one. With 1.2 sec to go you don't throw the ball towards your own basket. If you throw it forward and its a turnover they have a hail mary, but in this case it almost got stolen for a free layup. Can't wait for us to find a good coach. However its even worse that a pro NBA player can't figure that out, Ariza must be clueless so why would you even let him inbound. We somehow got lucky at the end and it shouldn't even been this close.


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              Posted 22 April 2016 - 08:15 PM

              I think JB was trying to stay big by playing Beasley, and he couldn't play Howard, Capela or Smith in that situation because the Warriors could continue to hack for another minute. However it is confusing as Beasley isn't the best defender, rebounder and doesn't have the range to be a 3 point shooter. With the offense running through Harden at the end I don't see what exactly he provides being out there if not getting the ball on offense. But the only other options were Brewer, Jones or going small. I wish Harrell would've been the one out there getting the minutes, but being a rookie JBB wasn't going to play him in that situation and we still won with Beasley so I can't complain too much.


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                Posted 22 April 2016 - 08:21 PM

                I didn't have a problem with Beasley playing at the end of the game. It was that last possession where I had a problem. JBB has no concept of offense/defense subs at the end of a game. 

                 

                And yeah, that Bogut play is ridiculous. I wonder if the league is reviewing any of this? I'm sure the Rockets submitted the tape. 


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                Posted 22 April 2016 - 08:58 PM

                What baffles me since last year is why on Earth is Ariza inbounding balls? There have been several ocassions in which we've needed a basket to tie or win the game and one of our best shooters (discounting the fact he has been off and on for a while now) is inbounding the ball instead of running for the corner three.....not to mention the fact that he almost gave away the game on that pass. But that's not on JBB, he can't mind control his players into making the right decisions


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                  Posted 22 April 2016 - 10:05 PM

                  YES!  My exact thoughts.  Ariza is a terrible inbounder.  Why is he still inbounding the ball?!?


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