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[majik19]

Are yall interested in JVG?

 

On one hand, I am - we need his defensive prowess and ability to take control of a basketball team, which he can do without killing our players (cough cough Tom Thibodeaux). 

 

But I'm concerned - has he been out of the coaching game too long? The game has changed since he last coached. I know he's watched a lot of basketball, and marveled at the Spurs and Warriors. But that doesn't necessarily translate to him being able to teach the concepts. I also wonder if he has the offensive chops in this new age of basketball. 

 

I would certainly feel a lot better with JVG than I would with JBB, Mark Jackson, or Scott Brooks (caveat being he can bring Durant to Houston?) 

[Rahat Huq]

A follower brought to my attention that JVG recently said on a Woj podcast that he would bring in an offensive coordinator of sorts to help him with that side of the ball.  Were that not the case, yes, I would be concerned he has been gone too long.

[Jatman20]

I wish the Rockets could lure Shaka Smart from the Longhorns. First six yrs of his seven yr contract are guaranteed though. He gets about 3 mil per year. Brad Stevens gets about 3.66 mil, Hoiberg gets about 5 mil and Donovan gets about 6 mil per yr. He would be ideal IMO.....with the exception of a full court press defense. That won't work in the NBA.

[bboley24]

Screw this "player's coach" mularkey.  Get a hard-nosed guy in there and straighten this talent out.  Thibs and JVG together would be an all time defensive juggernaut.  

[Jatman20]

I agree with you Majik19 on Thibs. The league and players are trying to get rid of back to back games due to the toll it takes on the body. The players don't want grueling practices. At least that's what the Bulls players were supposedly claiming.....at the end of 3/4 of the season their legs were shot.

JBB has proven to me that he is inept. If he has been trying to win, why would you play Brewer so much?? Mind boggling when you see the stats on Capela and McDaniels when they play. For lack of a better word, the player rotations have been "Stupid!" Old rule of thumb is you should reduce your rotations in the playoffs to around 8-9 guys. Not vs the Warriors. They have line shifts like in hockey. Each player gets rotated out after a
short stint with the objective of running hard up and down the court to exhaust the other team. The Warriors are the NBAs version of the NFL spread offense of Chip Kelly or Tom Brady no huddles. You can't play Howard 30+ mins against the Warriors.

I can't stand Mark Jackson.....but he did a good job of assembling that group (Warriors).

Brooks is good for a team we want to run next year. Bunch of PnR, PnPop, flair screens, mid screens, iso with cutters or back door cuts (much of what the Warriors run.....which they learned from watching our D-league affiliate over the years). First take was criticizing the Thunder for last nights game. They blamed Donavan, but then came to terms that the players are dictating that situation. So it wasn't the fault of Brooks.

I can't stand JVG; but I respect his inside out game with Ewing and Mason accompanied with outside shooters like Starks, Harper, Greg Anthony,
Doc Rivers, ect. Warriors use postups off of mismatch switches......and not actually to score in the post; but to open up a 3 point shot or easy ally oop, cut or put back. If JVG understands the Warriors and will emulate their game......then sign him.

[Jatman20]

@BBoley24....not to be disrespectful; but you kind of need stars. City of Houston alone doesn't attract free agents. No Harden no playoffs. We can be a cellar dweller and draft guys like the T-Wolves. Spurs and their great scheme got bounced in the first round last year. Spurs had to add a couple stars in the form of West and LMA.

[ale11]

 

 

Scott Brooks (caveat being he can bring Durant to Houston?) 

 

If Durant wanted him to be his coach, he would have never been released. Durant is THAT important of a star that whatever coaching decision WILL go through him first. Bringing Brooks won't move the needle for us, and it might make it worse.

[Mario Peña]

I'm starting to think what this team needs (since Harden is the star) is a strong minded and strong willed coach that imposes his will on the roster and the organization really. The next coach must have cache, the ultimate work ethic and be a yeller that's sincere. Harden's team will need to embody a strong willed coach on the floor.

I'm starting to think Thibadeu (if he doesn't go to Minny) would be the man. It also doesn't hurt how involved he is in Team USA.

I'm not sure on JVG but then again what do I know. I'm really just speculating. Anyone else know of college coaches that sort of fit the description in my imagination that I outlined above.

[Jatman20]

Thibs signed with the T-Wolves. That will be good for those young kids who can run all day. Brooks and Shaka Smart are the only two coaches that interest me.

[majik19]

Thibs signed with the T-Wolves. That will be good for those young kids who can run all day. Brooks and Shaka Smart are the only two coaches that interest me.

 

With the athletes on that team, man they're going to be tough on defense next year. I'm just afraid he's going to break Rubio in a week and torpedo KAT's and Wiggins' career by playing them 40 min/night. Rubio is already a great defender (best one at PG in my opinion), and LaVine, KAT, and Wiggins all have the tools to be great defensive players. Scary. 

 

But can he also be GM? Some great coaches haven't been able to handle both. That's the other place where the Twolves took a big risk. 

Edited by majik19, 20 April 2016 - 05:43 PM.

[thejohnnygold]

Thibs signed with the T-Wolves. That will be good for those young kids who can run all day. Brooks and Shaka Smart are the only two coaches that interest me.

 

Being in Austin and a UT alum I get the impression Smart will not likely field offers from NBA teams for at least a couple of years.  He's not led entirely by the almighty dollar and I think he will want to see out (most of) his time here.  In relation to Harden, I do not think he is the right man for the job as he is a hugely self-motivated guy and would likely prefer players like himself (read: not James Harden).

 

I'm also not high on Brooks at all (which I think we have touched on in the past).

 

Honestly, Adelman may be the best guy for the job.  If James isn't going to play defense we might as well build an offense around him that works better and find a coach that can set up rotations, run plays, adapt...you know....coach stuff.  I think he would know how to use D-Mo properly as well.

 

I'd be fine with JVG.  I think he has enough cache to get the players to buy in, but I think he and Harden will butt heads early and often.  We all know what happens when stars don't like their coaches  .

 

This off season will tell us a lot about James.  Does he pull a Kyle Lowry and come back in the best shape of his life?  If so, there is hope.  If not, this team is doomed for mediocrity.

 

As everyone knows, I think we should ship out Harden.  Once that is done, bringing in a young coach would be great.  Until then, I think we're just spinning our wheels and praying to get traction.

[slick shoes]

Being in Austin and a UT alum I get the impression Smart will not likely field offers from NBA teams for at least a couple of years.  He's not led entirely by the almighty dollar and I think he will want to see out (most of) his time here.  In relation to Harden, I do not think he is the right man for the job as he is a hugely self-motivated guy and would likely prefer players like himself (read: not James Harden).

 

I'm also not high on Brooks at all (which I think we have touched on in the past).

 

Honestly, Adelman may be the best guy for the job.  If James isn't going to play defense we might as well build an offense around him that works better and find a coach that can set up rotations, run plays, adapt...you know....coach stuff.  I think he would know how to use D-Mo properly as well.

 

I'd be fine with JVG.  I think he has enough cache to get the players to buy in, but I think he and Harden will butt heads early and often.  We all know what happens when stars don't like their coaches  .

 

This off season will tell us a lot about James.  Does he pull a Kyle Lowry and come back in the best shape of his life?  If so, there is hope.  If not, this team is doomed for mediocrity.

 

As everyone knows, I think we should ship out Harden.  Once that is done, bringing in a young coach would be great.  Until then, I think we're just spinning our wheels and praying to get traction.

 

I wish that I thought Rick would take the job, but he is tending to his wife and I do not blame him for doing so.

 

All things considered, I believe JVG would be the best fit for us. I also have some interest in Kevin Ollie at UConn. He is REALLY well respected around the league among coaches, players, and brass. 

[thejohnnygold]

I wish that I thought Rick would take the job, but he is tending to his wife and I do not blame him for doing so.

 

All things considered, I believe JVG would be the best fit for us. I also have some interest in Kevin Ollie at UConn. He is REALLY well respected around the league among coaches, players, and brass. 

 

I always forget about Ollie.  I would have zero problems with bringing him in (assuming we "take out the trash" first  ).

[Mario Peña]

Harden should be in top shape this summer considering it's the Olympics right? He might have lost some shine since the last Team USA competitions and might feel the urge to go out and reassert himself. A competitive summer versus the get fat and paid summer he had last year could be a big difference. I'm optimistic.

[thenit]

Is he still carrying the kardashian weight on his shoulder? If so the poison in his body is so deep that we might as well call it good career. It's not salvageable.

[majik19]

A follower brought to my attention that JVG recently said on a Woj podcast that he would bring in an offensive coordinator of sorts to help him with that side of the ball.  Were that not the case, yes, I would be concerned he has been gone too long.

I'm just wondering who this would be?
 

Mark Jackson and JVG work together on broadcasts - maybe they could co-coach the Rockets!

 

(jk - Mark Jackson won't leave the booth for less than a head coaching job.)

[slick shoes]

(jk - Mark Jackson won't leave the booth for less than a head coaching job.)

 

You never know. Some guys just want to get back into the game and if the situation is right they might do something unexpected. 

[Jatman20]

Brooks is going to Washington. I no longer think Durant will come to Houston.

Washington will probably sign or resign these players: Sessions, Thornton, Beal, Durant and Horford....maybe add Dudley to that list.
PG) Wall/Sessions SG) Beal/Thornton SF) Durant/Porter or Ouber (Trade one) PF) Horford/Markieff C) Gortat/ backup FA.

Rockets can sign whoever at coach. It won't matter. It's going to be a lean year. Trading Harden may be necessary to rebuild through the draft.

[clydesmoustache]

Brooks is going to Washington. I no longer think Durant will come to Houston.

Washington will probably sign or resign these players: Sessions, Thornton, Beal, Durant and Horford....maybe add Dudley to that list.
PG) Wall/Sessions SG) Beal/Thornton SF) Durant/Porter or Ouber (Trade one) PF) Horford/Markieff C) Gortat/ backup FA.

Rockets can sign whoever at coach. It won't matter. It's going to be a lean year. Trading Harden may be necessary to rebuild through the draft.

I was on the fence about making the playoffs but didn't consider that we would be losing coaching opportunities while we pretended to be contenders for another week. Thibs and Brooks were on the top of my list for interviews.

[Rahat Huq]

I was on the fence about making the playoffs but didn't consider that we would be losing coaching opportunities while we pretended to be contenders for another week. Thibs and Brooks were on the top of my list for interviews.

Co-signed.  I didn't realize how quickly this thing would unfold.  Though you could argue there's no way Thibs was coming here regardless - that Minnesota gig is superior.