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@  skip 2 my lou : (15 November 2015 - 01:47 AM) definitely hard to watch, the fact that i have to listen to dallas commentators makes it worse.
@  Willk : (15 November 2015 - 01:47 AM) they quit already.
@  thenit : (15 November 2015 - 01:39 AM) not looking too good tonight either, no parsons, dirk or matthews and we are down 10+
@  thejohnnygold : (14 November 2015 - 02:29 PM) At least T-Jones looked good :)
@  DenverRocket : (14 November 2015 - 06:00 AM) Well that was depressing! Something not quite right with team chemistry. Lawson quite literally looked like he was sleep walking. Not a happy bunch as they left the court!
@  Willk : (14 November 2015 - 04:25 AM) I have never seen a team that wants to play basketball as little as the rox
@  skip 2 my lou : (12 November 2015 - 03:17 AM) well thats a bummer
@  Willk : (12 November 2015 - 03:08 AM) I would be happy if tjones and brewer never played again
@  redfaithful : (08 November 2015 - 11:50 AM) Josh Smith went to LA to get more minute and it's gone from 25.5 to 13.7. That's 53.7%.
@  JY86er : (08 November 2015 - 08:16 AM) Ballsy win, ballsy. Definitely lets the Clips know that even though they held their little free agent pep rally--it still ain't all good.
@  Willk : (08 November 2015 - 07:34 AM) did anyone notice AK47 sitting 3 rows behind the Rox bench tonight?
@  jorgeaam : (08 November 2015 - 06:14 AM) I meant everyone else, I know that you and other 1-2 people are active around here, but I remember last season there was a lot more action going on
@  majik19 : (08 November 2015 - 06:11 AM) i was too busy watching Harden dominate to comment. Nice to see him do well against a team that traditionally stymies him.
@  jorgeaam : (08 November 2015 - 05:59 AM) Where's everyone? It feels like if the Rockets struggle then all the fans are gone
@  jorgeaam : (08 November 2015 - 02:08 AM) No Paul today for the Clips, let's go!
@  jorgeaam : (07 November 2015 - 06:18 AM) I'd say we could line Harrell up with Dwight, probably the only guy who can cover Griffin, or maybe Ariza will go superhero on him
@  jorgeaam : (07 November 2015 - 06:16 AM) What do you think the lineup is going to look like? There's no way we go small against the Clips
@  jorgeaam : (07 November 2015 - 06:15 AM) Now we'll see how the real challenge goes tomorrow
@  majik19 : (07 November 2015 - 06:14 AM) That game was too difficult considering Boogie sat, but in our defense the first 3 guys in our frontcourt rotation sat out too...
@  Cooper : (07 November 2015 - 06:14 AM) Harden was excellent, wouldn't mind seeing less Hayes/Jet/Brewer and more Harrel/Mcdaniels/Dekkar.

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Brooklyn Nets 106, Houston Rockets 98: Because of course they did


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#1 Red94

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    Posted 12 November 2015 - 06:47 AM

    New post: Brooklyn Nets 106, Houston Rockets 98: Because of course they did
    By: Mitchell Felker

    Ten players registered minutes for the Brooklyn Nets last night, and all but three of those players (Jarrett Jack, Shane Larkin and Wayne Ellington) are 6'7 or taller.  For all the knocks on Brooklyn (plodding pace, lack of offensive creativity, poor defense), they do tall very well.  And it was that height that beat the Houston Rockets last night.

     

    The Nets out-rebounded the Rockets 60 to 45, but the real problem was the 20 offensive rebounds Brooklyn managed to grab.  Dwight Howard did his part, grabbing 7 offensive rebounds and 17 total, but the rest of the Rockets couldn't keep their guys off the glass.  Only Brook Lopez had double digits for Brooklyn, with 12 (5 offensive), but five other Nets grabbed at least 6 boards and all but Jarrett Jack had at least one offensive rebound.  It was a total team effort on Brooklyn's part.

     

    Quick tangent: Bill Simmons used to keep a running list of players doing things that you needed to see in person to truly appreciate.  Things like young-Dwight recovering on a pick-and-roll to swat a layup into the stands, LeBron snatching a long rebound and running a one-man fast break, etc.  I went to the Rockets home game against the Nets last year and it was the closest I've ever sat at a game, and all I could think was, "How does anyone get a rebound or a shot over Brook Lopez?"  He's not exactly Russell Westbrook attacking the rim or Steph Curry catching fire, but Lopez's arms and frame are loooooong.  It was kind of jarring.  Granted, Dwight wasn't playing that game and Josh Smith doesn't quite matchup, but still.

     

    It wasn't all bad for Houston, though.  Howard continued his recent run of dominance with 20 points, 17 rebounds and 5 blocks.  He dunked lobs, found gaps in the pick-and-roll and protected the rim.  It's pretty clear at this point that Dwight's production will be determined by his health, but when he's feeling well that "old Dwight" everyone is always talking about is still very much here.  Which brings me to Quick Tangent #2:

     

    For years people have credited Greg Poppovich with "mastering" the regular season, finding rest for Tim Duncan and keeping his team fresh for the post-season.  And recently, it's been the same thing for LeBron, "just make it to June, the regular season doesn't matter."  But Dwight sits out two games, while averaging 17/12/2, and is all I've heard out of Simmons and Jalen Rose is "howabout you stay on the floor, big man."  I know the general public doesn't really care for Dwight anymore, but that's a double standard if I've ever seen one.  Just get to June healthy, big man.

     

    The other bright spot for the Rockets was Marcus Thornton, who filled the stat sheet with 21 points, 7 assists, 3 rebounds, 4 steals and a block.  When Houston signed Thornton, it didn't even register for me.  Just roster filler, I thought, because I'm not a fan of bad basketball and Marcus Thornton has never played for a team that mattered. But I should have known that Daryl Morey doesn't acquire just roster filler. Even when he traded for 38 year old Pablo Prigioni, it ended up saving the season, as Pablo played big minutes in the playoffs and gave Chris Paul fits. And boy, was Morey right again. Thornton is a "professional" shooter as one of the Rockets broadcast team pointed out.  But he is more than just a shooter; he's like a more nuanced Jason Terry: a shooter with that playmaking gene.  He hustles on defense, makes the right reads on offense, and when he is stroking, can carry the team for stretches. As always, In Morey We Trust.

     

    The rest of the Rockets, outside of James Harden (23 pts, 9 reb, 6 ast), Howard and Thornton, were pretty terrible. Ty Lawson and Trevor Ariza missed too many shots, Corey Brewer had a +/- of -15 and Terrence Jones looked slow and stuck to the floor, definitely still rusty after missing four games with that cut. Clint Capela wasn't bad, but was regularly out-muscled by Brooklyn's aforementioned size.

     

    Call it rust, call it feeling themselves after four straight wins, call it whatever.  But there is no reason for Houston to lose a game like this one to an 0-7 team, at home, after four days of rest.  Whether losing games to bad teams (Brooklyn, Denver) or giving up big leads (Miami, about 25 times last year) the variance to the way this team plays continues to be one of the largest and most flummoxing in the league.  It's that lack of professionalism? Killer instinct? Discipline? ...that continues to plague Houston under Kevin McHale.

     

    The sky is not falling and everything will be fine when McHale has his full rotation of big men, but man, was this game frustrating.


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      Posted 12 November 2015 - 08:19 AM

      I am starting to be a pessimist. I feel like Tjones and Brewer sucked the life out of the team when they came in. Their terrible play just seems to stop any momentum team has. Obviously, the Rockets were not playing great, when they came in, but they still had the lead. By the time the dynamic duo were subbed out, the lead was gone. The Rox are going to struggle w/o a PF. Tjones is PF who wants to play like a SG and whenever DMO gets back, it will probably take him 3-4 weeks to get his timing and conditioning back. There are no other answers at this time unless you want to get a few minutes of Howard/ Capela, which might not be bad. Playing PF has definitely effected Ariza's offensive game. hopefully the hole is not too deep when DMO returns (but he does not rebound well either). Maybe a mistake was made by letting Smith go and re-signing Brewer.


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        Posted 12 November 2015 - 08:40 AM

        I didn't see the game so thought that I would check in here to get the scoop. Terrific analysis, as usual.
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          Posted 12 November 2015 - 07:31 PM

          great recap, so well-written that i thought Rahat had penned it until i checked the byline after reading.

           

          note to editor: more from Mitchell Felker please.


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          Posted 13 November 2015 - 01:40 AM

          that's what I call hitting the nail on the head. excellent recap. I am absolutely pissed about this game :angry: height no doubt was a factor, however there were a couple others........this is a coaching lost. when the Rockets were playing lackluster during parts of the game McHale allowed it instead of calling timeout and correcting the issues. they allow this team to hang around when they should have put their foot on the Net's neck. instead they tried to win the game in the last 6 minutes and by then momentum had swung over to the Nets. say what you want, but that's coaching. Pop would have been chewing arse like a lawnmower cutting the yard if the Spurs played like that yet McHale seemed unconcerned until the last 6 minutes. unbelievable! we cannot afford to drop these kind of games, yet there was no urgency. and as you mentioned above the rebounding absolutely stunk. Brook Lopez with 12 rebounds? are you kidding me! right now the Rockets can't box out a midget. looks like everybody wants to get out on the break, but nobody is bothering to collect the rebound on the way.  I said before that sooner or later rebounding would bite us, but Brookland? in order for this team to run over us we had to lay down in the street in front of the car. pitiful

           

          an additional factor......... our shooting stunk. even when wide open we were terrible. I don't know if it takes extra time in the gym or not, but we gotta do something different. I see a lot of drives to the basket, but only Harden is finishing. everyone one else seems to just be drive and kick focused. we actually have to finish a few of these drives to be considered a threat right? 

           

          while this is only one game remember only 1 game separated us from the Spurs last year. we gotta win these type of games struggling or not. this lost is unacceptable. even though we aren't at our best right now, I could have gotten five guys from the playground and beat the Nets. pitiful 


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          you can only warn a man that the bridge is out.....if he keeps driving he's on his own B)


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            Posted 13 November 2015 - 05:44 AM

            that's what I call hitting the nail on the head. excellent recap. I am absolutely pissed about this game :angry: height no doubt was a factor, however there were a couple others........this is a coaching lost. when the Rockets were playing lackluster during parts of the game McHale allowed it instead of calling timeout and correcting the issues. they allow this team to hang around when they should have put their foot on the Net's neck. instead they tried to win the game in the last 6 minutes and by then momentum had swung over to the Nets. say what you want, but that's coaching. Pop would have been chewing arse like a lawnmower cutting the yard if the Spurs played like that yet McHale seemed unconcerned until the last 6 minutes. unbelievable! we cannot afford to drop these kind of games, yet there was no urgency. and as you mentioned above the rebounding absolutely stunk. Brook Lopez with 12 rebounds? are you kidding me! right now the Rockets can't box out a midget. looks like everybody wants to get out on the break, but nobody is bothering to collect the rebound on the way.  I said before that sooner or later rebounding would bite us, but Brookland? in order for this team to run over us we had to lay down in the street in front of the car. pitiful

             

            an additional factor......... our shooting stunk. even when wide open we were terrible. I don't know if it takes extra time in the gym or not, but we gotta do something different. I see a lot of drives to the basket, but only Harden is finishing. everyone one else seems to just be drive and kick focused. we actually have to finish a few of these drives to be considered a threat right? 

             

            while this is only one game remember only 1 game separated us from the Spurs last year. we gotta win these type of games struggling or not. this lost is unacceptable. even though we aren't at our best right now, I could have gotten five guys from the playground and beat the Nets. pitiful 

             

            No doubt that this game was pitiful. I agree Pop would have been yelling, but I do not think that would have made a difference. Do you remember when a fully healthy Spurs team lost to the pitiful Knicks down the stretch last year? Also, a fully healthy team lost to the Pelicans on the last day of the season. Pop was yelling and it did not make a difference. Players, specifically Tjones and Brewer) to man up. Every time those two step onto the court, they suck the life out of the team. If they do not come to play against Denver, it will be another blowout.


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            Posted 14 November 2015 - 01:19 AM

            No doubt that this game was pitiful. I agree Pop would have been yelling, but I do not think that would have made a difference. Do you remember when a fully healthy Spurs team lost to the pitiful Knicks down the stretch last year? Also, a fully healthy team lost to the Pelicans on the last day of the season. Pop was yelling and it did not make a difference. Players, specifically Tjones and Brewer) to man up. Every time those two step onto the court, they suck the life out of the team. If they do not come to play against Denver, it will be another blowout.

            the problems don't stop with Jones and Brewer. Jones just got back from injury so his contributions are limited at this point. IMO the problem is we don't play small ball well enough to rely on that lineup in critical moments yet that's exactly what we have been attempting to do. we are not getting production at PG, SF or PF and up to now our bench has been playing weak. I don't have enough fingers too point at the guilty parties, however right now the very first one points at coaching. Pop's triad may not have snapped the Spurs from their lackluster play, but at least he didn't sit on his arse like he didn't care. there was a sense of urgency being displayed. at least fool me and make me think you care :lol:  


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            you can only warn a man that the bridge is out.....if he keeps driving he's on his own B)


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              Posted 14 November 2015 - 05:03 AM

              the problems don't stop with Jones and Brewer. Jones just got back from injury so his contributions are limited at this point. IMO the problem is we don't play small ball well enough to rely on that lineup in critical moments yet that's exactly what we have been attempting to do. we are not getting production at PG, SF or PF and up to now our bench has been playing weak. I don't have enough fingers too point at the guilty parties, however right now the very first one points at coaching. Pop's triad may not have snapped the Spurs from their lackluster play, but at least he didn't sit on his arse like he didn't care. there was a sense of urgency being displayed. at least fool me and make me think you care :lol:  

              Or maybe it is time to start to think about firing morey. He was the one who put together this crap-tastic roster.


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              Posted 15 November 2015 - 01:06 AM

              Or maybe it is time to start to think about firing morey. He was the one who put together this crap-tastic roster.

              NOPE.........Morey has assembled an extremely talented team. that's his job IMO. find talent and acquire it. we have the right pieces IMO. however the manner in which the forces are being deployed doesn't extract the potential available. I don't care how good the fighting force is a bad general can lose you the war.


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              you can only warn a man that the bridge is out.....if he keeps driving he's on his own B)


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                Posted 15 November 2015 - 02:22 AM

                NOPE.........Morey has assembled an extremely talented team. that's his job IMO. find talent and acquire it. we have the right pieces IMO. however the manner in which the forces are being deployed doesn't extract the potential available. I don't care how good the fighting force is a bad general can lose you the war.

                Who is the genius who extended McHale?
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                  Posted 15 November 2015 - 10:17 AM

                  NOPE.........Morey has assembled an extremely talented team. that's his job IMO. find talent and acquire it. we have the right pieces IMO. however the manner in which the forces are being deployed doesn't extract the potential available. I don't care how good the fighting force is a bad general can lose you the war.

                  Here is the roster:

                  PG - Ty/Bev/Jet

                  SG - Harden/ Thornton

                  SF - Ariza/ Brewer/ KJ/ Dekker

                  PF - DMO/ TJ/ Harrell

                  C - Howard/ Capela

                  Going into the season, Morey knew that they were not going to play Howard on back to backs at least for half of the year. Morey also knew DMO was coming off of back surgery and there was a good chance he was going to be out a significant part of the year (I'm guessing you do not see him at all in 2015 and when he comes back I doubt he will play back to backs and it will take a few weeks to get his stamina/ rhythm back). So at least half the year, your starting PF and C will not be available. Your back-up PF is injury prone and already has missed time this year. So now you are counting on a rookie 2nd round pick and a 21 year old 2nd year center to play major minutes. I know they are giving max efforts, but they are still raw. Morey counted on this front line to get them a top seed. With Howard/ DMO/ TJones missing time, now Ariza has had to play major minutes at PF. Ariza vs Blake Griffin really? This roster is way to SF dominated. KJ is in the D-league and Dekker is at the end of the bench and not NBA ready.

                  Morey must not have thought this roster through at all or he was counting on Harden to carry the team just like last year. He really needed to add another big somehow because the top 3 bigs will probably miss at least 50% of the season. The Rockets are the smallest team in the NBA with everybody fully healthy. Obviously they are even smaller with DMO out. Because this roster is SF heavy, the Rockets are up against the hard cap and cannot add salary like they did last year. The only way to improve the team is to trade for the same salary and who is going to want anybody on the rockets who is making a decent buck? Nobody. Yes, the players are to blame for rarely giving any effort, but Morey brought the players in and he gave McHale the extension. In any other profession, Morey would probably have been fired. There is no one who is not to blame, including Morey.


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                  Posted 15 November 2015 - 10:14 PM

                  Here is the roster:

                  PG - Ty/Bev/Jet

                  SG - Harden/ Thornton

                  SF - Ariza/ Brewer/ KJ/ Dekker

                  PF - DMO/ TJ/ Harrell

                  C - Howard/ Capela

                  Going into the season, Morey knew that they were not going to play Howard on back to backs at least for half of the year. Morey also knew DMO was coming off of back surgery and there was a good chance he was going to be out a significant part of the year (I'm guessing you do not see him at all in 2015 and when he comes back I doubt he will play back to backs and it will take a few weeks to get his stamina/ rhythm back). So at least half the year, your starting PF and C will not be available. Your back-up PF is injury prone and already has missed time this year. So now you are counting on a rookie 2nd round pick and a 21 year old 2nd year center to play major minutes. I know they are giving max efforts, but they are still raw. Morey counted on this front line to get them a top seed. With Howard/ DMO/ TJones missing time, now Ariza has had to play major minutes at PF. Ariza vs Blake Griffin really? This roster is way to SF dominated. KJ is in the D-league and Dekker is at the end of the bench and not NBA ready.

                  Morey must not have thought this roster through at all or he was counting on Harden to carry the team just like last year. He really needed to add another big somehow because the top 3 bigs will probably miss at least 50% of the season. The Rockets are the smallest team in the NBA with everybody fully healthy. Obviously they are even smaller with DMO out. Because this roster is SF heavy, the Rockets are up against the hard cap and cannot add salary like they did last year. The only way to improve the team is to trade for the same salary and who is going to want anybody on the rockets who is making a decent buck? Nobody. Yes, the players are to blame for rarely giving any effort, but Morey brought the players in and he gave McHale the extension. In any other profession, Morey would probably have been fired. There is no one who is not to blame, including Morey.

                  I disagree.........we have enough to win right now even with our bigs ailing. Denver, Brookland and Dallas could have all been beaten with our present roster. those 4 losses aren't lack of talent losses. those are lack of coaching and lack of effort losses. Yes Morey extended McHale and if you remember I disagreed even then, but I don't expect perfection from Morey. all humans are prone to error. McHale was an error, however Morey has a history of cleaning up his errors quite nicely.........lets see how he does on this one 


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