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@  cointurtlemoose : (25 November 2014 - 03:13 AM) Harden is beasting
@  kdo : (24 November 2014 - 01:19 AM) Sigh...Howard's out...
@  Mario Pena (... : (23 November 2014 - 03:58 AM) Talk about surviving on defense and Harden delivering! Rockets beat the Mavs!
@  jorgeaam : (23 November 2014 - 03:44 AM) Yes! Nice win today
@  jorgeaam : (23 November 2014 - 03:37 AM) It's quite satisfactory to see Harden get an And-One against Parsons
@  jorgeaam : (23 November 2014 - 03:13 AM) Most three-point field-goal attempts, game
49-Dallas vs. New Jersey, March 5, 1996

Houston has 44 so far
@  jorgeaam : (23 November 2014 - 03:12 AM) WOW, 75 combined 3PA so far, NBA record for Most three-point field-goal attempts, both teams, game was 69
@  jorgeaam : (23 November 2014 - 01:51 AM) We're on pace to break the 3pm in a game record, 12 already with 6 min remaining in first half
@  jorgeaam : (23 November 2014 - 01:48 AM) Insane 3 point shooting so far
@  Mario Pena (... : (23 November 2014 - 12:22 AM) Big man down, I repeat the big man is down! http://blog.chron.co...nee/#27967101=0
@  jorgeaam : (21 November 2014 - 10:07 PM) My bad, it's good to learn that, thanks for the input :D
@  Mario Pena (... : (21 November 2014 - 05:26 PM) jorgeaam, it's called self deprecation. It doesn't mean he's ok with people making jokes rather it's a sign of having a sense of humour regarding his defense and hthe hoopla surrounding it. On the court he has clearly shown he is not ok with the ridicule.
@  rocketrick : (21 November 2014 - 03:10 PM) Harden OK with people joking about his D?? Hello---did anyone bother to watch the game the otber night? I guess it's kinda like calling the kettle black at this point, WTF......
@  jorgeaam : (21 November 2014 - 01:25 AM)
@  jorgeaam : (21 November 2014 - 01:25 AM) I don't know if you guys have seen this, but it seems Harden is ok with people joking about his D
@  cointurtlemoose : (20 November 2014 - 08:09 AM) But Papa is great. What a dude. I <3 Papa. I need a t-shirt with that on it.
@  cointurtlemoose : (20 November 2014 - 08:03 AM) This was one of those times where our 'late game - small lead' tactics (or lack thereof) makes me want to explode...
@  SadLakerFan : (20 November 2014 - 05:19 AM) Rockets seemed in control for most of the game, but Lakers closed on a 12-1 run. Will wait for the analysis tomorrow.
@  Cooper : (20 November 2014 - 05:13 AM) yeah, well and jones hard to win without starters in a position we aren't particularly deep at in the first place still terrible loss.
@  jorgeaam : (20 November 2014 - 05:09 AM) are we really that dependent on Dwight? 2 out of our 3 losses when he's out

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#1 Red94

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    Posted 13 November 2014 - 06:46 AM

    New post: Houston Rockets 113, Minnesota Timberwolves 101: The best team in the league
    By: Paul McGuire

    Rahat said on Twitter during the first quarter that the Rockets should kill the Timberwolves, but I was worried about this game beforehand. Minnesota will not make the playoffs this season, but they are a very athletic team that has depth and likes to run. When those traits are combined with the high altitude of Mexico City, we could have looked at an undisciplined track meet which would turn in Minnesota’s favor. At times during the first half, it looked like that would be the first case. There was a stretch midway through the second quarter where the two teams had a combined four straight fast break possessions, which ended with the Timberwolves gaining two points on the Rockets.

    But after going through the motions for much of the first half, the Rockets woke up, turned up the defense, and took control of the game. Houston still has some kinks to work out and things which do concern me at this point in the season, namely our overreliance on Harden on the offensive end. But the fact is that the Rockets are tied for the best record in the league, have the highest point differential, and have a highly ranked offense and defense (and as much people like to spout the platitude of “defense wins championships”, the reality is that a team needs a strong offense and defense to win.) At the end of the day, there is not too much to complain about.

    If you want something that went really well, take a look at Houston’s big men. And not just Howard, who was too strong for Minnesota center Gorgui Dieng and too fast for Nikola Pekovic. Tarik Black had his first good regular season game with 10 points and 6 rebounds in just 17 minutes, and Motiejunas had his second straight good game. Motiejunas did not have a strong scoring effort, but he was well-rounded in his rebounding and passing. That is more important than improving his three-point shot or his touch around the rim: Houston can live with Motiejunas continuing to struggle on the offensive end, but to live with a defensively inadequate big man is an entirely different matter.

    As noted above, Houston’s defense in the second half was the reason for how the Rockets were able to close this game out comfortably after leading by just 4 at the end of the first half. Dwight Howard is just a ridiculous defensive monster. The Mexico City crowd was looking for highlights tonight, and he provided them when he blocked multiple shots into the stands to cheers and applause. Aside from him, everyone on the Rockets gave greater effort in the second half. Even Jason Terry managed to steal an in-bounds pass which led to an easy bucket.

    The offense in the meantime is my one concern. Howard may have done well against the Minnesota big men, but Harden is still Houston’s offensive linchpin. I am not worried about Harden’s poor shooting both from the field and from long range, where he is shooting only 30% for the year. That will improve over time, just like Jason Terry will not be shooting over 50% from three-point land. What I am worried about is how much Harden handles the ball.

    If you think that statement means that I am in any way, shape or form calling Harden a ballhog, that is not true. Harden is an offensive genius. He had 10 assists with just one turnover tonight, and it makes perfect sense for Houston to let our best offensive player work as much as possible. What worries me is how much Harden can actually do over the long grind of the 82-game season. In a Mexico City environment which had both Kevin McHale and Flip Saunders use bigger rotations than normal on account of the thin air, Harden still played 40 minutes. Late in the third quarter, Harden landed awkwardly on a drive to the basket and had to come out of the game to stretch his right ankle. He came back later in the fourth and played just fine, but moments like this are still concerning.

    Perhaps I worry too much. Harden is tough and built like a tank, and Houston played a great second half tonight against Minnesota thanks to his efforts and the improved defense. But the Rockets are not looking to beat Minnesota. They are looking to beat San Antonio, Golden State, Memphis, and whoever else they face in May and maybe even June. And in order to do that, Houston will need to make sure that Howard and Harden will be in shape to lead the Rockets when the playoffs arrive.

    Also on a final note: Once upon a time in 2009-10, Rockets fans were convinced that Chase Budinger was a future starter for years to come, if not a star. Even at the star of the 2011-12 season, Budinger was assumed to be Houston’s starting small forward until a rookie Parsons came out of nowhere to take the spot instead. Today, Budinger came in during garbage time and played just four minutes for the Timberwolves. He hit his first field goal of the season tonight.

    Things can change so rapidly in the NBA.

     


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      Posted 13 November 2014 - 07:55 AM

      New post: Houston Rockets 113, Minnesota Timberwolves 101: The best team in the league
      By: Paul McGuire


      Rahat said on Twitter during the first quarter that the Rockets should kill the Timberwolves, but I was worried about this game beforehand. Minnesota will not make the playoffs this season, but they are a very athletic team that has depth and likes to run. When those traits are combined with the high altitude of Mexico City, we could have looked at an undisciplined track meet which would turn in Minnesota’s favor. At times during the first half, it looked like that would be the first case. There was a stretch midway through the second quarter where the two teams had a combined four straight fast break possessions, which ended with the Timberwolves gaining two points on the Rockets.
      But after going through the motions for much of the first half, the Rockets woke up, turned up the defense, and took control of the game. Houston still has some kinks to work out and things which do concern me at this point in the season, namely our overreliance on Harden on the offensive end. But the fact is that the Rockets are tied for the best record in the league, have the highest point differential, and have a highly ranked offense and defense (and as much people like to spout the platitude of “defense wins championships”, the reality is that a team needs a strong offense and defense to win.) At the end of the day, there is not too much to complain about.
      If you want something that went really well, take a look at Houston’s big men. And not just Howard, who was too strong for Minnesota center Gorgui Dieng and too fast for Nikola Pekovic. Tarik Black had his first good regular season game with 10 points and 6 rebounds in just 17 minutes, and Motiejunas had his second straight good game. Motiejunas did not have a strong scoring effort, but he was well-rounded in his rebounding and passing. That is more important than improving his three-point shot or his touch around the rim: Houston can live with Motiejunas continuing to struggle on the offensive end, but to live with a defensively inadequate big man is an entirely different matter.
      As noted above, Houston’s defense in the second half was the reason for how the Rockets were able to close this game out comfortably after leading by just 4 at the end of the first half. Dwight Howard is just a ridiculous defensive monster. The Mexico City crowd was looking for highlights tonight, and he provided them when he blocked multiple shots into the stands to cheers and applause. Aside from him, everyone on the Rockets gave greater effort in the second half. Even Jason Terry managed to steal an in-bounds pass which led to an easy bucket.
      The offense in the meantime is my one concern. Howard may have done well against the Minnesota big men, but Harden is still Houston’s offensive linchpin. I am not worried about Harden’s poor shooting both from the field and from long range, where he is shooting only 30% for the year. That will improve over time, just like Jason Terry will not be shooting over 50% from three-point land. What I am worried about is how much Harden handles the ball.
      If you think that statement means that I am in any way, shape or form calling Harden a ballhog, that is not true. Harden is an offensive genius. He had 10 assists with just one turnover tonight, and it makes perfect sense for Houston to let our best offensive player work as much as possible. What worries me is how much Harden can actually do over the long grind of the 82-game season. In a Mexico City environment which had both Kevin McHale and Flip Saunders use bigger rotations than normal on account of the thin air, Harden still played 40 minutes. Late in the third quarter, Harden landed awkwardly on a drive to the basket and had to come out of the game to stretch his right ankle. He came back later in the fourth and played just fine, but moments like this are still concerning.
      Perhaps I worry too much. Harden is tough and built like a tank, and Houston played a great second half tonight against Minnesota thanks to his efforts and the improved defense. But the Rockets are not looking to beat Minnesota. They are looking to beat San Antonio, Golden State, Memphis, and whoever else they face in May and maybe even June. And in order to do that, Houston will need to make sure that Howard and Harden will be in shape to lead the Rockets when the playoffs arrive.
      Also on a final note: Once upon a time in 2009-10, Rockets fans were convinced that Chase Budinger was a future starter for years to come, if not a star. Even at the star of the 2011-12 season, Budinger was assumed to be Houston’s starting small forward until a rookie Parsons came out of nowhere to take the spot instead. Today, Budinger came in during garbage time and played just four minutes for the Timberwolves. He hit his first field goal of the season tonight.
      Things can change so rapidly in the NBA.

      I think this was well written however you do have to beat the Minnesota's, Lakers, 76ers of the NBA to get a good seed. Remember the Spurs started off 0-12 against teams with winning records but we're able to get the #1 seed because they beat the bad teams.
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        Posted 13 November 2014 - 09:24 AM

        @Rahat

        How was Mexico City? Was it worth wearing the inflatable Clutch suit in order to go?

        Another day, another double digit win. 60 wins here they come.
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          Posted 13 November 2014 - 02:44 PM

          One of the greatest improvements I've seen in this squad this season versus last, is their ability to really step on their opponent's throats in the 4th quarter. In the majority of the games so far this season, coming out of the 3rd, we have had around 10 point leads. Last season most of those games would have been just as close until the buzzer, and many times would be a lot closer, or a loss due to a rally from the opponents. This season, so far, we've done a good job of spending the first half of the 4th extending the lead to around 20+. This will go a long way towards preserving our stars if we can continue to put teams away.

           

          For the stats guys: What lineups have we been using to start the 4th? Also, what type of play are we running mostly when we extend these leads? My eye sees a lot of early-in-the-clock drive-and-kicks.

           

          While it's hard to argue that the Ariza signing (and subsequent Parsons loss) has been the most positive move made this offseason for our team. I would like to argue that the JET signing is quickly becoming almost as important.

           

          I think Harden's heavy usage lately is a by-product of the Beverley and Jones injuries and D12 recovering from the flu. All that matters to me is that he does what is necessary to pull out a win. If he didn't employ that absolutely vicious Euro-step then the likelihood of him twisting his ankle is sure to drop significantly, so should he be asked to stop? I have full confidence that the staff of professionals surrounding, and Harden himself are best qualified to determine when he is pushing his limits, they have the situation under control. I refuse to view this NBA season worrying about injuries to our best players. This has been the bane of Rockets' fans' existence for way too long, to the point where the worrying has become habitual. Please, I beg of you, help us break this habit by not feeding the "worry" hype. Please


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            Posted 13 November 2014 - 04:41 PM

            The Rockets attempted for two years to turn Lin into a spot up shooter. It did not work and Lin was shipped out at great cost. When Harden is on the floor there is exactly one ball handler out there and four spot up shooters. I believe this team was Morey's vision all along. And who in the NBA is more deadly with the ball than Harden? Harden is built like a tank, and is not often injured. Harden may become exhausted, but at this age seems impervious to damage.

             

            Defense. That is the key. IMHO one of the main jobs of everyone on the floor is to keep Harden from spending a large amount of energy on the defensive end. And this season Harden seems to be willing to expend that energy. But it does take its toll, and detract from his offensive effort. As Morey stated on 790, the Rockets have a top five defender at the 1,3, and 5. D-Mo may be the best defensive big second team player in the NBA. If injury free, the Rockets look like a lock to be both top five in offense and defense this season.

             

            Only having three truly serviceable bigs worries me. Black might be an acceptable sub against a team like the wolves without a very good set of bigs, but I seriously doubt he will be effective against the likes of Memphis. Against the GSW only D-Mo excelled. No one else was even serviceable.

             

            The Rockets are doing what they need to do. Winning every game against weak opponents. By double digits. 60 wins is accomplished by crushing inferior opposition and playing slightly above 0.500 against playoff teams.


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              Posted 13 November 2014 - 05:36 PM

               

               

              Only having three truly serviceable bigs worries me. Black might be an acceptable sub against a team like the wolves without a very good set of bigs, but I seriously doubt he will be effective against the likes of Memphis. Against the GSW only D-Mo excelled. No one else was even serviceable.

               

               

              I agree, however I think Dieng and Pek are pretty darn good, not Memphis-big good, but definitely a poor man's version of the same. This is why I said in other threads that any moves Morey should make, should be to combat this problem. Okafor would be ideal and O'Neal would be serviceable, and others out there too. Once Black and D-mo were able to stay on the floor for decent stretches, they seemed to find nice rhythm. We do have a good pack of young and vet wings that should help us weather a short storm if Harden has to sit a few games. We don't have that luxury if Dwight has to sit (like with Flu). (Being prepared for an injury and worrying about them are not the same.)


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              Posted 13 November 2014 - 05:42 PM

              Only having three truly serviceable bigs worries me. Black might be an acceptable sub against a team like the wolves without a very good set of bigs, but I seriously doubt he will be effective against the likes of Memphis. Against the GSW only D-Mo excelled. No one else was even serviceable.

               

              Good post NorEastern. I did want to address this specific quote. I really thought Black played well last night. I know the Wolves don't have the best bigs in the world, but Gorgui Dieng is one of the most coveted young Centers in the league. He is young and raw, but I don't think there is a GM in the league that wouldn't love to have him. Black legitimately outplayed him last night. The other thing to consider is Black is 2 years younger than Dieng. Black certainly struggled against GSW and Bogut, but Bogut is one of the better defensive bigs in the league, and not too shabby on the offensive end either. Not hard to expect that a rookie making his first start is going to struggle against a savvy veteran. I'm happy with Black so far. We have to remember that Black is mostly going to be going against the Diengs and Kamans of the NBA. Not the Gasols and Jordans or even Lopez twins. If Dwight is healthy we should never have to worry about how Black is going to look against the best Centers in the league. Obviously if Dwight gets hurt than that will change, but unfortunately that is just the nature of the game. He has seemed like a serviceable back up Center. 

               

              D-Mo has also picked up his play lately. His defense has been pretty stellar these last few games, and offensively he is moving the ball well. The pass to Harden last night was beautiful. He was also working hard on the boards. D-mo is finally becoming a reliable rotation 4/5.

               

              Also, did anyone else notice Black got a few minutes at the PF spot last night? Minny was getting offensive boards with ease, and we switched to a Howard, Black, and Papa (I believe) frontcourt. Very good defensive lineup that I believe was a smart rotation for what we were trying to accomplish on the court. Almost reminded me of two seasons ago when we would play Asik and Greg Smith together to start and finish games. 


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              Posted 13 November 2014 - 06:29 PM

              I think Harden's heavy usage lately is a by-product of the Beverley and Jones injuries and D12 recovering from the flu. All that matters to me is that he does what is necessary to pull out a win. If he didn't employ that absolutely vicious Euro-step then the likelihood of him twisting his ankle is sure to drop significantly, so should he be asked to stop? I have full confidence that the staff of professionals surrounding, and Harden himself are best qualified to determine when he is pushing his limits, they have the situation under control. I refuse to view this NBA season worrying about injuries to our best players. This has been the bane of Rockets' fans' existence for way too long, to the point where the worrying has become habitual. Please, I beg of you, help us break this habit by not feeding the "worry" hype. Please

               

              100% agree.  The "worry train" is chugging away at full steam ahead.  What should we do then...sit Harden until the playoffs?  Athletes are at risk every second they are on the court.  Is this any different from the daily commute most of us make to and from work?  Accidents happen every day and people get injured (some mortally); yet, we all pile in our cars, hop on planes, trains, and buses everyday to provide for ourselves.  Whether the concern is injury, exhaustion, or whatever--let it go, people.  The Houston Rockets employ people far more qualified than us to tend to these things.

               

              I am surprised that no one else seems to have noticed that this game was an abomination and embarrassment.  It was painfully obvious that this was more than an exhibition game--it was the Globetrotters without the slapstick.  Neither team was playing defense in the first half and it was clear they were all trying to make "spectacular" plays in order to wow the crowd (part of why I think Dwight missed two dunks--he was trying to bring down the backboard instead of just putting the ball through the hoop).

               

              I understand what the NBA is doing, but this smacks of WWE-style pandering and it has no place in a professional sports league that wants its audience to take it seriously and not question the veracity of what we are watching.  They turned it on at the end, but prior to that it was a spectacle the likes of which I only see once a year--the NBA All-Star Game.  I don't like thinking about the NBA, and Silver, pulling strings like this behind the scenes, but after watching that game I am left with nothing else to consider.  Save it for the preseason and leave the legitimacy of the regular season alone.

               

              I am glad some guys had good games, but I take nothing from this game except that Wiggins is going to be good and Pekovic's post game is hideous to watch--even when the ball goes in.  Also, there is a good chance we will be watching the Wolves and Sixers in the finals in 3-4 years....which is weird.


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                Posted 13 November 2014 - 06:41 PM

                 

                 

                I am surprised that no one else seems to have noticed that this game was an abomination and embarrassment.  It was painfully obvious that this was more than an exhibition game--it was the Globetrotters without the slapstick.  Neither team was playing defense in the first half and it was clear they were all trying to make "spectacular" plays in order to wow the crowd (part of why I think Dwight missed two dunks--he was trying to bring down the backboard instead of just putting the ball through the hoop).

                 

                I understand what the NBA is doing, but this smacks of WWE-style pandering and it has no place in a professional sports league that wants its audience to take it seriously and not question the veracity of what we are watching.  They turned it on at the end, but prior to that it was a spectacle the likes of which I only see once a year--the NBA All-Star Game.  I don't like thinking about the NBA, and Silver, pulling strings like this behind the scenes, but after watching that game I am left with nothing else to consider.  Save it for the preseason and leave the legitimacy of the regular season alone.

                 

                I am glad some guys had good games, but I take nothing from this game except that Wiggins is going to be good and Pekovic's post game is hideous to watch--even when the ball goes in.  Also, there is a good chance we will be watching the Wolves and Sixers in the finals in 3-4 years....which is weird.

                So is this considered a road win? I too was put off by the spectacle, tried to ignore it. I agree save the international outreach for the preseason.

                 

                Wiggins looks Sooo young. Once he comes into his adult form, he will be very exciting to watch.


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                  Posted 13 November 2014 - 08:31 PM

                  I am surprised that no one else seems to have noticed that this game was an abomination and embarrassment.  It was painfully obvious that this was more than an exhibition game--it was the Globetrotters without the slapstick.  Neither team was playing defense in the first half and it was clear they were all trying to make "spectacular" plays in order to wow the crowd (part of why I think Dwight missed two dunks--he was trying to bring down the backboard instead of just putting the ball through the hoop).

                   

                  I understand what the NBA is doing, but this smacks of WWE-style pandering and it has no place in a professional sports league that wants its audience to take it seriously and not question the veracity of what we are watching.  They turned it on at the end, but prior to that it was a spectacle the likes of which I only see once a year--the NBA All-Star Game.  I don't like thinking about the NBA, and Silver, pulling strings like this behind the scenes, but after watching that game I am left with nothing else to consider.  Save it for the preseason and leave the legitimacy of the regular season alone.

                   

                  I also got the All-Star Game feeling from this game, but I don't think the NBA could have prevented that unless they didn't schedule any games abroad. During any normal game, almost every audience member that Dwight, for example, plays before either wants him to do well because they are a Rockets fan, wants him to do poorly because they are a fan of the other team, or wants him to do really poorly because they are a Lakers fan. For the players, this game represented an opportunity to actually win fans over by their performance on the floor that night rather than by being on a certain team.

                   

                  I think that any athlete would love for a Rocky IV moment in which fans that know nothing about you start cheering for you and your team because of your performance before them. Obviously, that's not happening when you're playing at home or at the other team's home, but this was an opportunity for that, and I think it's natural that the emotion of that possibility got into the players' heads. In fact, as soon as the game started, some of my first thoughts were, "who are these fans going to cheer for? I hope they cheer for the Rockets."

                   

                  Maybe it's best to save these types of games for the pre-season until there actually is a team based in Mexico in order to avoid these emotional oddities.


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                  Posted 13 November 2014 - 09:01 PM

                  I also got the All-Star Game feeling from this game, but I don't think the NBA could have prevented that unless they didn't schedule any games abroad. During any normal game, almost every audience member that Dwight, for example, plays before either wants him to do well because they are a Rockets fan, wants him to do poorly because they are a fan of the other team, or wants him to do really poorly because they are a Lakers fan. For the players, this game represented an opportunity to actually win fans over by their performance on the floor that night rather than by being on a certain team.

                   

                  I think that any athlete would love for a Rocky IV moment in which fans that know nothing about you start cheering for you and your team because of your performance before them. Obviously, that's not happening when you're playing at home or at the other team's home, but this was an opportunity for that, and I think it's natural that the emotion of that possibility got into the players' heads. In fact, as soon as the game started, some of my first thoughts were, "who are these fans going to cheer for? I hope they cheer for the Rockets."

                   

                  Maybe it's best to save these types of games for the pre-season until there actually is a team based in Mexico in order to avoid these emotional oddities.

                   

                  I hear what you're saying, but I think you are way under-selling the basketball fans in Mexico.  They aren't living under rocks.  They have all the same technologies and luxuries we have.

                   

                  I believe many bball fans in Mexico identify with the Mavericks because of Eduardo Najera--the first Mexican-born NBA player.  This would lead me to think they would not like Houston--and it is likely that many don't.  They understand rivalry--possibly better than many Americans.

                   

                  Still, Mexico and Texas share a great deal--aside from a shared border, geography, history and an unholy love of tacos we also share family and friends.  Those family and friends likely impart some team affiliations.  "My cousin lives in Houston--he loves the Rockets so that is who I root for".  The same likely goes for San Antonio, Dallas, and, really, all the NBA cities because each has citizens with roots in Mexico--even Minnesota.

                   

                  I agree that the players were showboating, but I think there is more to it than wanting to gain a few followers on Twitter.  There is no way the coaches would have been on board with what was going on out there if it didn't come down from on high.


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                    Posted 13 November 2014 - 09:26 PM

                    Yeah. Saying "fans that know nothing about you," was extreme. I didn't mean to say that they wouldn't have general reasons to start out liking one team or the other. I just mean to say that that stadium was probably filled with Clippers fans, Heat fans, Blazers fans, etc.

                     

                    As a Rockets fan, if my only opportunity to watch basketball in my hometown was to watch the Sixers and Nets play, I'd probably still go, but my allegiance wouldn't be very strong towards either side until I actually got into the game itself.

                     

                    But that's just my clarifying my point. I do think you're right that something came from above, considering the coaches' attitudes.


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                      Posted 13 November 2014 - 11:39 PM

                      I hear what you're saying, but I think you are way under-selling the basketball fans in Mexico.  They aren't living under rocks.  They have all the same technologies and luxuries we have.

                       

                      I believe many bball fans in Mexico identify with the Mavericks because of Eduardo Najera--the first Mexican-born NBA player.  This would lead me to think they would not like Houston--and it is likely that many don't.  They understand rivalry--possibly better than many Americans.

                       

                      Still, Mexico and Texas share a great deal--aside from a shared border, geography, history and an unholy love of tacos we also share family and friends.  Those family and friends likely impart some team affiliations.  "My cousin lives in Houston--he loves the Rockets so that is who I root for".  The same likely goes for San Antonio, Dallas, and, really, all the NBA cities because each has citizens with roots in Mexico--even Minnesota.

                       

                      I agree that the players were showboating, but I think there is more to it than wanting to gain a few followers on Twitter.  There is no way the coaches would have been on board with what was going on out there if it didn't come down from on high.

                       

                      Well, I am Mexican, so I can tell you a great deal about that;

                       

                      While we aren't living under the rocks, there's not a lot of people that actually play/watch basketball here, most are focused in soccer,  but yeah, it's not like we didn't knew what basketball is or something, they actually stream the games here too 

                       

                      From what I've heard by asking, most people actually like the Lakers, just because Kobe is there and they know him, a great bunch also likes the Bulls, and it really splits a lot from there, maybe some like the Mavs, but not so much people. And I am the only one that likes the Rockets :D


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                        Posted 13 November 2014 - 11:46 PM

                        Well, I am Mexican, so I can tell you a great deal about that;

                        While we aren't living under the rocks, there's not a lot of people that actually play/watch basketball here, most are focused in soccer, but yeah, it's not like we didn't knew what basketball is or something, they actually stream the games here too

                        From what I've heard by asking, most people actually like the Lakers, just because Kobe is there and they know him, a great bunch also likes the Bulls, and it really splits a lot from there, maybe some like the Mavs, but not so much people. And I am the only one that likes the Rockets :D

                        Sounds like you are the only sane one of the bunch.
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                          Posted 13 November 2014 - 11:56 PM

                          Oh, I forgot, there's also a lot of Spurs fans, which I find interesting considering they tend to be ignored in USA until it's playoff time


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                          Posted 14 November 2014 - 06:03 PM

                          Well, I am Mexican, so I can tell you a great deal about that;

                           

                          While we aren't living under the rocks, there's not a lot of people that actually play/watch basketball here, most are focused in soccer,  but yeah, it's not like we didn't knew what basketball is or something, they actually stream the games here too 

                           

                          From what I've heard by asking, most people actually like the Lakers, just because Kobe is there and they know him, a great bunch also likes the Bulls, and it really splits a lot from there, maybe some like the Mavs, but not so much people. And I am the only one that likes the Rockets :D

                           

                          Thanks for the input--that is interesting.  Chicago makes sense--Jordan's influence on the sport is still strong.  


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