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@  Cooper : (19 May 2014 - 12:08 AM) wiggins and Parker are pretty much locked in at the 1-2 spots, embiid, exum, randle are interchangeable based on team needs.
@  jorgeaam : (18 May 2014 - 11:51 PM) Also, you've got Wiggins, Parker and Embiid, there's almost no way he goes #1 or even #2
@  jorgeaam : (18 May 2014 - 11:51 PM) Uhm, I don't know about Exum going #1, he was sold as a Westbrook-esque athlete, but his max vert was 34.5, not good for a player who'll make his living around the basket
@  Buckko : (18 May 2014 - 10:17 PM) Unless the lakers win the lottery rocketrick, exum wouldn't go below 4th and I wouldn't be shocked if he went #1.
@  Buckko : (18 May 2014 - 10:16 PM) That's why they kept mchale-LOVE
@  feelingsuper... : (18 May 2014 - 09:15 PM) Love also said he wants to play for a contender and the Lakers are years away from contending, especially with Jim Buss at the helm.
@  miketheodio : (18 May 2014 - 09:08 PM) sick of the officials. this ind vs mia isn't fun to watch.
@  jorgeaam : (18 May 2014 - 08:26 PM) Because Love has said he wants to play for the Lakers, so we don't want Love to toy around for 1 year and leave on the next
@  jorgeaam : (18 May 2014 - 08:25 PM) So, the only way the rockets should get Love is if they can work out a contract extension before trading for him, like they did with Harden
@  jorgeaam : (18 May 2014 - 08:24 PM) Well, that could be an option for Love too, I actually think that if the lakers get the chance to pick Exum (by means of a high lottery pick) they will and they'll wait for next year to get Love as an UFA
@  feelingsuper... : (18 May 2014 - 07:36 PM) Wojnarowski is reporting that the Rockets will be aggressive in bringing Kevin Love to Houston by way of Kevin McHale's relationship with him. Goodbye Chandler Parsons.
@  rocketrick : (18 May 2014 - 03:55 PM) The Lakers should have a high Lottery pick in the upcoming Draft. Will find out Tuesday night how high their pick is.
@  jorgeaam : (18 May 2014 - 03:53 PM) Interesting, Minnesota can now trade him on draft day to the Lakers
@  rocketrick : (18 May 2014 - 03:52 PM) Kevin Love has told Minnesota he will NOT re-sign with them effectively making him an UFA next summer unless Minnesota trades him before then
@  08huangj : (15 May 2014 - 01:02 AM) No need to be so angry...
@  thenit : (14 May 2014 - 11:15 PM) Never said I want to trade them but have said that I don't like McHale and that he should get canned, but Harden needs to wake up, all other elite players even when young tries to play D, look at all the other top 10 players in the league, Curry is not the best defender but he is not that bad because he makes an effort, Lillard makes an effort and all other young stars, the only other one who doesn't give a chili con carne enchilada about D is Irving and look at how well the Cavs are doing. End of rant
@  thenit : (14 May 2014 - 11:13 PM) So stop being a gawl-darn-boo-boo face when you say that you have asked me that questions many times and many times in each post I have said that there are only 2 players in the league I swap Harden with and its KD and LBJ but I have higher expectations of a player of harden's caliber so maybe you are just happy with stagnation
@  thenit : (14 May 2014 - 11:11 PM) But when he calls Bev off on Lillard in the last play of game 6 you can't blame harden for making a horrendous call or his poor defensive game. End of discussion for me, I guess McHale and Harden are infallible and just let them keep doing what they are doing because its clearly working and improving, I haven't seen any gosh-darn-diddily-iddily changes from last season in effort on D from last year and I guess we should just let him keep learning slowly until our window runs out
@  thenit : (14 May 2014 - 11:08 PM) But you can bury anyone else on the team but never Harden. Example Lin boneheaded play in game 4 he was hung out and rightfully so, but when Harden doesn't do his part in the series and when his shots doesn't fall he doesn't contribute in D that's for me alarming that you can't bring it in the playoffs.
@  thenit : (14 May 2014 - 11:07 PM) I have in all my post never said we should trade either of them unless they want out themselves, but its sad that you can't critique the players that would impact our chances the most or the coach without being accused of not being a fan of the team

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#1 08huangj

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    Posted 14 May 2014 - 10:34 AM

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    Today I went to this Celtics blog and found out that the Celtics seem to be interested in Asik and Lin... and they wanted to keep Rondo. They wrote about Carmelo Anthony, and how it would clear up the Rockets cap space and it would also benefit the Celtics. I thought that it'll be interesting to read. Here is the piece below:

     

    One of the hottest trade scenarios has recently ousted Houston looking to make an upgrade to their roster. There's the Rondo-to-the-Rockets rumor that will be raised again between Danny Ainge and Daryl Morey, but something smaller could be done that would allow the Celtics to retain their All-Star point guard, add the defensive center they've been looking for in Omer Asik, and free up cap space for Morey to add a third superstar in Carmelo Anthony.

     

    Here's the scenario:

    For the Rockets to sign free-agent-to-be Carmelo Anthony, they'll need to make room for another max deal on their cap sheet with the redundant Asik and expiring Jeremy Lin likely to be moved. It's doubtful that Phil Jackson would help Morey cherry pick one of the best players in the league from his team in a sign-and-trade, so Houston would have to find a home for Asik and Lin.

     

    Enter the Boston Celtics and their $10.3 traded player exception. Because this deal would fall almost a year from when the exception was generated, it's considered a non-simultaneous trade. According to Larry Coon's CBA FAQ, "a team can acquire only up to 100% plus $100,000 of the outgoing salary." For the Celtics, that's the $10.3M that was created in the Paul Pierce-for-Keith-Hogans transaction of last summer's big trade. Check out this reddit thread for an explanation.

     

    Now, for Ainge to cash in on the TPE AND the Rockets to get their man, a few things could happen. The Celtics currently have four players on non-guaranteed deals: Keith Bogans ($5,285,817), Phil Pressey ($816,482), Chris Babb ($816,382), and Chris Johnson ($915,243). That's a total of $7.8M. Bogans' sweetheart deal plus two out of three rookie contracts could theoretically be cobbled together (a total of around $7M which would satisfy the CBA's 125% + $100,000 matching requirement) to mirror Lin's $8,374,646 and later waived before they step foot in the Toyota Center. In a subsequent trade, Asik's $8M would fit into the Celtics' TPE. The combined effect for Houston would be a Carmelo-sized cap hole. The Celtics get their rim protector and a back up point guard with both on expiring contracts.

    It gets a little more complicated if Jeff Green and Brandon Bass are involved or if Ainge insists on the inclusion of Chandler Parsons (who has his own pending free agency in flux), but the biggest player in a Celtics' deal this summer might be the TPE. With so many big name free agents potentially on the move, Boston could be the landing spot for teams looking to dump salary.

     

    And keep this in mind: Houston isn't the only team that Danny could deal with. Asik is certainly at the top of the list of centers to target, but Ainge could swing a similar deal with Oklahoma City for fan favorite Kendrick Perkins, pick off the Jazz's under-performing Enes Kanter, or even snag Tiago Splitter from San Antonio if the Spurs decide to do a brick one rebuild.

     

    It's hard to handicap the likelihood of something happening, especially considering the tight window that Ainge has to utilize the TPE. July 1st is the start of the NBA calendar year; free agents are technically free, holds and rookie scales are applied to teams' salary cap, and Bird rights are renounced. There's a moratorium on transactions that ends on the stroke of midnight on July 10th and the TPE expires on July 12th. Ainge will have two days to work his phone or he loses it.

     


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    #2 QNoir

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      Posted 14 May 2014 - 12:45 PM

      I just don't see Carmelo moving to Houston. I think he'll stay in NY. Early moves with the expectation that Carmelo would be interested could really hurt Houston. Of course, they're bench players so that's not too big a worry. But talking Parsons with no promise of Melo or someone else to fill a void would be disastrous.


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        Posted 14 May 2014 - 02:53 PM

        I doubt Parsons is going to the C's unless Rondo is coming back.


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        Posted 14 May 2014 - 04:27 PM

        I just don't see Carmelo moving to Houston. I think he'll stay in NY. Early moves with the expectation that Carmelo would be interested could really hurt Houston. Of course, they're bench players so that's not too big a worry. But talking Parsons with no promise of Melo or someone else to fill a void would be disastrous.

         

        I assume you're saying if we start shopping Parsons and then no deal appears it will hurt our team chemistry, etc. due to hurt feelings.

         

        I'm sorry to say, but I believe Houston loves Parsons more than Parsons loves Houston.  He wants that contract and he will go wherever he needs to in order to get it.  I knows this is a business--how many players has he seen come and go already?  It won't hurt his feelings one bit to be mentioned as a key component for one of the league's premier players--where I'm from, that's flattery.


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        #5 08huangj

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          Posted 16 May 2014 - 02:06 PM

          I just don't see Carmelo moving to Houston. I think he'll stay in NY. Early moves with the expectation that Carmelo would be interested could really hurt Houston. Of course, they're bench players so that's not too big a worry. But talking Parsons with no promise of Melo or someone else to fill a void would be disastrous.

          Have you read the article correctly? Parsons is not going to be traded away unless a third star comes in. Neither is Lin and Asik. This isn't talking about unloading players, it's talking about trading...for Anthony.


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          Posted 16 May 2014 - 02:55 PM

          if Melo comes here the deal is most likely struck with NY. it's unlikely IMO that NY would be unwilling to play ball considering what could happen if they don't. they can not afford to allow Carmelo to walk in the same manner Howard did last year. they have no draft picks to aid in a rebuild. even if Carmelo leaves they are over the luxury tax line. Carmelo has NY at his mercy. he will dictate how NY plays this hand they have been dealt. he doesn't need NY to cooperate......they need him to cooperate or their future for the next 3-4 years will be flushed down the toilet. even if they are unable to get what they think is market value for Carmelo, they have no choice but to accept it if it looks reasonable. I'm sure trying to obtain some draft picks will probably be at or near the top of their wish list. they are in a position where if they can get at least that much they are almost guaranteed to bite. now I could foresee a 3 team deal where Boston could get Chandler from the Knicks or Asik is moved along to Boston with them sending compensation to the Knicks. however Houston doesn't need Boston's help to deal with NY. Boston needs Houston, because we have an overstock of what they need................A legitimate Center.


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          you can only warn a man that the bridge is out.....if he keeps driving he's on his own B)


          #7 Cooper

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            Posted 16 May 2014 - 03:12 PM

            I think Kerr bailing on Phil and the Knicks is an indicator that melo is likely out of NY.
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              Posted 18 May 2014 - 12:56 AM

               


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                Posted 18 May 2014 - 01:21 AM

                Funny thing is that Bleacher Report seem to think the Bulls are the obvious choice for Carmelo Anthony. I disagree.

                 

                Benefits for Carmelo Anthony to go to the Bulls:

                1. He would satisfy his need of living in a big city.

                2. He would be the team's first attacking option alongside with Derrick Rose(If he's healthy)

                3. He would be under a good coach

                4. Anthony would make the Bulls a contender because of his scoring: the Bulls finished dead last in points this last season(and their defense is awesome)

                5. Joakim Noah finished 4th in MVP voting

                 

                Negatives to joining the Bulls:

                1. Rose's health is not an insurance

                2. Joakim Noah might be over-performing this season

                3. The Bulls are in the East, which Phil Jackson will have to think for a while before letting Anthony go to a team of the east.

                4. I think that the Rockets would make a better deal than the Bulls including Parsons, Linsanity, and Asik.

                 

                Benefits for joining the Rockets:

                1. They would immediately become a serious contender

                2. Nobody can or will stop their offense

                3. Dwight, the beard, and Anthony would be the best "big 3" in the league over Miami

                4. The Rockets are in the West so Jackson is likely willing to deal with them.

                5. Dwight Howard and Carmelo Anthony have a friendship between each other

                 

                Negatives:

                1. The Rockets defense would be bad

                2. Kevin McFail is not a good coach

                3. Houston is not a big city(At least not like Chicago or New York)

                 

                Overall, I still think that the Bulls are a better choice. But it's not obvious.

                Read and look at the voting of where Carmelo Anthony will end up: Here

                 

                7.8 percent of the people think that Melo will end up "somewhere else" other than the Bulls or Knicks, and they didn't even bother to put the Rockets in a category. Also, look at the title, votes, and the tone of the writer: Too bright for the Bulls.


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                #10 timetodienow1234567

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                Posted 18 May 2014 - 01:29 AM

                Houston is not a big city.....

                I don't know what to say to that.
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                Why so Serious? :D


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                Posted 18 May 2014 - 01:45 PM

                http://m.bleacherrep...-kelly-scaletta

                So Scalleta claims he is a big Chicago fan and started off writing for the Chicago blog bullsbythehorns.com, that kind of tells us all we need to know.
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                Posted 18 May 2014 - 05:53 PM

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                I agree.................Houston not a big city :huh: that's not the feeling I get when I get on the freeway in the morning.  I would think the 4th largest city in America could get some love right here


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                you can only warn a man that the bridge is out.....if he keeps driving he's on his own B)


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                  Posted 18 May 2014 - 10:23 PM

                  Well Houston does have zero income tax, much cheaper real estate and goods, warm weather, best restaurants and gentlemen's clubs in  the country if we're talking what rich, young men find desirable in a city.

                   

                  Plus I understand why they kept mchale now...Love.

                   

                  They have a strong relationship.


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