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@  Opasido : (27 December 2013 - 04:04 AM) Refs were very nice to us at the end of the game
@  RollingWave : (27 December 2013 - 04:04 AM) we got through a pretty rough stretch of schedule about as well as I could reasonably expect
@  miketheodio : (27 December 2013 - 03:52 AM) A mental toughness win. Refs did seem a bit friendly though.
@  Chai : (27 December 2013 - 03:44 AM) 2 crucial rebounds from Lin yeeee
@  thenit : (27 December 2013 - 03:43 AM) will do wonders for his confidence
@  thenit : (27 December 2013 - 03:43 AM) I'm happy for dmo
@  2016Champions : (27 December 2013 - 03:42 AM) Ugly win, not sure if I should be happy about this but I am, we fought hard.
@  Chai : (27 December 2013 - 03:41 AM) Great team effort today. Really impressed with the team toughing it out
@  Chai : (27 December 2013 - 03:39 AM) Yesssss. Tech FT :)
@  Opasido : (27 December 2013 - 03:37 AM) Did Harden just break ZBo's ankles
@  Opasido : (27 December 2013 - 03:33 AM) Yeah I didnt know Dmo could defend like this. He's using his length and height advantage very well because he knows he cant out muscle Randolph
@  thenit : (27 December 2013 - 03:33 AM) Can't forget how jones carried us for the first 3 Qs
@  Chai : (27 December 2013 - 03:33 AM) Great doubles. ZBo's not the greatest at getting out of double/triple teams a la the Spurs series
@  thenit : (27 December 2013 - 03:31 AM) Seriously impressed by DMo defence on zack
@  thenit : (27 December 2013 - 03:29 AM) Will be a long finish with both teams in the bonus
@  2016Champions : (27 December 2013 - 03:29 AM) Harden is 17-18 from the line tonight
@  Chai : (27 December 2013 - 03:28 AM) Who'd win the nastiest snare contest. Randolph or Perkins?
@  2016Champions : (27 December 2013 - 03:27 AM) This is the Jeremy Lin I like to see!
@  Opasido : (27 December 2013 - 03:22 AM) LETS GO DMO
@  thenit : (27 December 2013 - 03:22 AM) so glad for the kid

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Asik and Lin to Brooklyn Nets?


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#1 Knickabokkaz

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    Posted 22 December 2013 - 06:25 AM

    http://espn.go.com/n...ork-knicks-gain

    So it was said that these talks were mentioned already but nothing ever came to surfice... Things have changed, atleast on the Brooklyn side. Prokorov doesn't give a damn about the luxury tax as we all know (already paying 80 million+ just in luxury tax for a team going downhill). Not to mention one of their main players in Brook Lopez is out for the season now.

    Since no one posted yet, thoughts?
    Why does it make sense?
    1. Asik is bound to be traded now or later it's going to happen.
    2. Rockets were so called "rumored" that if there were takers for Lin, they'd get rid of him.
    3. Do the Rockets want Deron Williams?
    4. I think Dwight would vouch for this because he's such good friends with Deron Williams and Dwight wanted to play with Deron in Brooklyn before coming to the Rockets.
    5. Imagine Lin succeeding in Brooklyn with arch rival Knicks struggling. It may not mean anything to Houston, but as a fellow New Yorker, I know the serious implications this would mean if that were to happen. Provorov calls Dolan "the little guy", it's a knockout blow atleast to Prokorov to embarrass Dolan even more.

    Will this work? My personal opinion is No. Only because it seems to good to be true from my standpoint and how I would love to have Lin back in NY.
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    #2 Steven

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      Posted 22 December 2013 - 06:31 AM

      A healthy D-Will is greater then Asik and Lin. Problem is he hasn't been healthy is ages. I don't see Morey making this move because their is no chance of getting any picks from the Nets until 2020.
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        Posted 22 December 2013 - 06:48 AM

        I don't think Morey would want anything to do with that 100million dollar+ contract. Yes DWill is injury prone but who knows with these GMs. Morey could have the mindset of "just 1 more piece" and pull the trigger. No one really knows
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        Posted 22 December 2013 - 07:19 AM

        everything I know about Morey tells me he wouldn't touch this deal with welder's gloves on. D-Will is still owed 80 mil dollars for this year and 3 more. that's not the kind of money Morey will spend on a point guard, especially an often injured one. I don't doubt the fact that the Rockets may upgrade PG, but it won't be D-Will. true D-Will is an allstar, however you can't score or assist from the training table. the risk is too great for the possible reward. I say two thumbs down on this deal


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        you can only warn a man that the bridge is out.....if he keeps driving he's on his own B)


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        Posted 22 December 2013 - 08:58 AM

        The only way I see an Asik+Lin to Brooklyn being reasonable is by getting back Pierce and Plumlee - gives the Rockets a wing player who knows what it takes to win and a nice young backup big.

         

        The money matches almost perfectly and for the Rockets it makes sense financially - Pierce has an expiring 15M contract.

         

        Not sure how much Pierce fits the Rockets locker room, but my guess is he will prefer being on a >.600 team over his current <.400...


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        Posted 22 December 2013 - 09:32 AM

        Deron is phenomenal offensively, but defensively he's a bigger liability than Harden is.


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          Posted 22 December 2013 - 09:40 AM

          Deron is phenomenal offensively, but defensively he's a bigger liability than Harden is.

          So win games 140-136, same as winning 80-76 except it would actually be entertaining.
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            Posted 22 December 2013 - 12:38 PM

            RedFaithFul....you spiked my interest in a Asik/Lin for Plumlee/Pierce deal; but doubt Pierce would like the up tempo style of Houston and the nets have no backup PGs to send our way. Now that Bev is hurt; that would leave us with AB and Canaan (still unproven). But I will consider it since I'm none to happy with Lin. Parsons struggles with back pain like a Trojan Warrior daily......Lin won't. Two dudes cut out of different cloth. Just like Tony Parker misses 2 games with a shin contusion......Asik will try to miss another 2 months with a thigh contusion. Get rid of him!!
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            Posted 22 December 2013 - 12:53 PM

            RedFaithFul....you spiked my interest in a Asik/Lin for Plumlee/Pierce deal; but doubt Pierce would like the up tempo style of Houston and the nets have no backup PGs to send our way. Now that Bev is hurt; that would leave us with AB and Canaan (still unproven). But I will consider it since I'm none to happy with Lin. Parsons struggles with back pain like a Trojan Warrior daily......Lin won't. Two dudes cut out of different cloth. Just like Tony Parker misses 2 games with a shin contusion......Asik will try to miss another 2 months with a thigh contusion. Get rid of him!!


            For whatever it's worth, Morey said Lin's back pain is a lot worse than Parsons.
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            Posted 22 December 2013 - 12:59 PM

            @Jatman20: I am not eager to see either Lin or Asik leave, I tried to take Knickabokkaz assumptions and suggest something better than DWill. I find a second unit of AB, Garcia, Pierce, Casspi and Plumlee as 1-5 very intriguing, Pierce doesn't have to do all the running...


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            Posted 22 December 2013 - 01:30 PM

            @Jatman20: I am not eager to see either Lin or Asik leave, I tried to take Knickabokkaz assumptions and suggest something better than DWill. I find a second unit of AB, Garcia, Pierce, Casspi and Plumlee as 1-5 very intriguing, Pierce doesn't have to do all the running...


            I find it intriguing too, especially if Nets throw in Mirza Tetlovic, but the problem with this scenario is the fact Morey was very adamant about the inclusion of a 1st round pick in any Asik deal. Apparently Morey even refused Asik for Thaddeus Young straight up because he wanted a 1st.
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            #12 redfaithful

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            Posted 22 December 2013 - 02:03 PM

            Isn't 15M off next year's cap space good as a low 1st rounder?


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              Posted 22 December 2013 - 05:48 PM

              RedFaithFul....you spiked my interest in a Asik/Lin for Plumlee/Pierce deal; but doubt Pierce would like the up tempo style of Houston and the nets have no backup PGs to send our way. Now that Bev is hurt; that would leave us with AB and Canaan (still unproven). But I will consider it since I'm none to happy with Lin. Parsons struggles with back pain like a Trojan Warrior daily......Lin won't. Two dudes cut out of different cloth. Just like Tony Parker misses 2 games with a shin contusion......Asik will try to miss another 2 months with a thigh contusion. Get rid of him!!

              Do you honestly have any idea what their injury is like? Go play professional basketball with an injury that requires you to drain your knee like asik or disrespecting a player like tony Parker, and how do you know the severity of Lin's back spasms.


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              #14 Knickabokkaz

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                Posted 22 December 2013 - 07:22 PM

                RedFaithFul....you spiked my interest in a Asik/Lin for Plumlee/Pierce deal; but doubt Pierce would like the up tempo style of Houston and the nets have no backup PGs to send our way. Now that Bev is hurt; that would leave us with AB and Canaan (still unproven). But I will consider it since I'm none to happy with Lin. Parsons struggles with back pain like a Trojan Warrior daily......Lin won't. Two dudes cut out of different cloth. Just like Tony Parker misses 2 games with a shin contusion......Asik will try to miss another 2 months with a thigh contusion. Get rid of him!!


                Lol 3 things you said had me chuckle ..

                1. Parsons with back pain but fights through it like a Trojan Warrior and Lin won't. Lin had multiple ankle sprains last years and played all 82 regular season games till he got injured in the playoffs. Not to mention his style of play hitting the floor as much as he does. Your right he must be weak.

                2. "I'm none too happy with Lin", why because he's improve dramatically since last year? Check his 36 min per game PPG, his FG% and 3pt% then come back and say something relevant.

                3. "Asik will try to miss another 2 months with a thigh contusion. Get rid of him!!" Well duh.. You need him to perform so teams can see he's fully healed an can still perform at a high level in order for teams to want to trade for him right? How can you get rid of him if he's going to try to miss 2 months.


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                Posted 22 December 2013 - 07:33 PM

                I've seen Lin take some pretty hard hits and keep playing with the same reckless abandon, he definitely doesn't lack toughness. He injured his back because he ran really hard into a screen by Andrew Bogut, and anyone who has seen Bogut set screens knows that's no joke.
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                  Posted 22 December 2013 - 09:18 PM

                  Knickabokkaz, I know you're desperate to get Lin back to NYC, but why would you wish the Nets on him?  They have a horrible GM, horrible coach, players on horrible contracts, no draft picks, no flexibility going forward.

                   

                  Come to think of it, why would you wish the Nets OR the Knicks on Lin.  Both organizations are disasters.  I would think that a true LOF would want him to go to the Heat or something.  


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                  #17 RudyT1995

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                    Posted 22 December 2013 - 10:13 PM

                    Parsons struggles with back pain like a Trojan Warrior daily......Lin won't. Two dudes cut out of different cloth. Just like Tony Parker misses 2 games with a shin contusion......Asik will try to miss another 2 months with a thigh contusion. Get rid of him!!

                     

                    Dude, do you even know what back spasms or a muscle contusion feels like?  or how widely they can range in severity?

                     

                    What an ignorant thing to say.


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                    #18 Rahat Huq

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                      Posted 23 December 2013 - 03:18 AM

                      Can't see Morey taking on that contract.  


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                        Posted 23 December 2013 - 05:27 AM

                        what about trading d-mo?


                        Edited by HazeWinkle, 23 December 2013 - 05:33 AM.

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                          Posted 23 December 2013 - 01:20 PM

                          I work in physical therapy. Lin is soft and will always be soft. He has missed the playoffs two years in a row and can't be counted on. Bev held Lillard to 8 points (a guy who is tearing up the league) while pulling down 11 rebounds. Then played great vs S Curry, keeping him to 20 points.......Lin gets destroyed by both of them. Lin fans are the most brain dead.


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