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@  timetodienow... : (20 August 2013 - 01:15 AM) Good insight, ST.
@  Sir Thursday : (19 August 2013 - 10:12 PM) On a radio show or TV interview you have a lot less time to police yourself. In a forum like an AMA, Morey has much more time to decide what responses are OK and doesn't have to be so guarded. That's my hypothesis, anyway.
@  timetodienow... : (18 August 2013 - 09:42 PM) I can see that. He's always very circumspect when he's talking on camera compared to doing these AMAs. I don't think he's uncomfortable speaking but he's more in his element chatting online.
@  feelingsuper... : (18 August 2013 - 04:23 PM) I think you're on to something timetodie but I wouldn't say he is uncomfortable speaking, we just gleam more insight from what he writes.
@  timetodienow... : (16 August 2013 - 10:35 PM) Has anyone noticed that Morey is more comfortable typing than speaking?
@  2016Champions : (16 August 2013 - 08:53 PM) Daryl Morey's reddit AMA today: http://www.reddit.co...eason_addition/
@  Sir Thursday : (16 August 2013 - 06:54 PM) (Although having said that, Cleveland and Washington being improved mean that there might actually be some competition towards the bottom of the Eastern Conference playoff bracket for once).
@  Sir Thursday : (16 August 2013 - 06:53 PM) They may end up with the 8th seed again this year, but they'll be a team on the up rather than a team that's reached its peak.
@  Sir Thursday : (16 August 2013 - 06:52 PM) That's a lot of shooting, anyhow. And they've filled the bench with serviceable players, too.
@  Sir Thursday : (16 August 2013 - 06:49 PM) (or maybe you put Gary Neal in for Delfino)
@  Sir Thursday : (16 August 2013 - 06:48 PM) It's not a roster completely devoid of talent, anyway. Knight/Mayo/Delfino/Ilyasova/Sanders seems like a reasonable starting lineup.
@  Sir Thursday : (16 August 2013 - 06:45 PM) A lot depends on if they can develop their young guys. Knight, Henson, Antetokounmpo...
@  timetodienow... : (16 August 2013 - 06:41 PM) Although this signing does make them look better to me.
@  timetodienow... : (16 August 2013 - 06:40 PM) Maybe. I don't really care all that much, but it just seems like he's being underpaid. And why would he want to stay in MIL? Have you seen the moves they've made thus far.
@  Sir Thursday : (16 August 2013 - 06:36 PM) A player with 7 years' experience qualifies for a bigger max contract, right? Maybe he's angling for that
@  timetodienow... : (16 August 2013 - 06:33 PM) I hope he has an ETO. That would make the deal make sense in my mind. Otherwise why not play next year and get offered the max by a desperate team and have MIL match?
@  timetodienow... : (16 August 2013 - 06:32 PM) Then why not get a 5th year?
@  Sir Thursday : (16 August 2013 - 06:31 PM) And if Sanders doesn't mind Milwaukee then he would probably want as long a contract as possible...maximise guaranteed money and all that.
@  Sir Thursday : (16 August 2013 - 06:30 PM) Milwaukee probably have a bit more leverage than most teams do in contract negotiations in that [a] it's an extension rather than a resign, so they could just let him to to RFA; and [b] they have a really deep front court rotation.
@  timetodienow... : (16 August 2013 - 06:29 PM) True about Pek, but I don't consider them elite rim protectors like in the vein of Duncan/KG/Asik/Howard/Gasol/Noah/Hibbert(showed improvement last year). Drummond and Sanders are potential candidates for rim protectors in my opinion.

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Huq's Pen: On Brewer, Parsons


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#1 Red94

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    Posted 20 August 2013 - 10:55 PM

    New post: Huq's Pen: On Brewer, Parsons
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    • I didn't care much for the Casspi and Williams signings, but Ronnie Brewer has me excited, especially if he can return to form.  He's been a proven contributor on playoff teams and thus, there's no reason to think that Brewer can't rebound to where he left off in his last productive season, given the right situation.  Houston has quietly stockpiled a glut of defensive specialists, from Dwight Howard, to Omer Asik, to Patrick Beverley, Francisco Garcia, and now Brewer.  Chandler Parsons and (despite the hearsay you may have heard) Jeremy Lin are not exactly slouches on that end either.  This is an important development for a team with title aspirations and a best player who isn't particularly interested in bending his back on that end.  The Rockets will also likely need to hide both Donatas Motiejunas and Terrence Jones as well.
    • On that note, it's striking to consider the underrated nature of the Rockets' offseason as a whole, aside from acquiring Dwight.  They've scooped up low risk veterans like Brewer and Camby for peanuts, and somehow managed to retain Aaron Brooks and Garcia, the latter two both having paid dividends in the postseason.  Perhaps the best move of all was opting to keep Omer Asik rather than hurriedly dealing him away, despite that player's alleged trade requests.  My Gosh, look at that depth chart.  The veterans are all players, even Reggie Williams, who have very recently been productive, and the young players all possess exceptional potential.  To add, not a single player can be considered a deadweight contract (despite the hearsay you may have heard about Jeremy Lin.)  Gone are the days of Clarence Weatherspoon and Mark Jackson, and waiting to unload Shandon Anderson off the books.  Do you remember those days?  I try to forget but sometimes still wake up in cold sweats.

    • I noted this morning, in passing, that it struck me that the team's three best players (in Howard, Harden, and Asik), were all not only young, but boasted tremendous playoff experience, all having been to at least the conference finals.  I didn't think at the time that this would be considered a controversial statement but instead, several of you took exception, citing the merits of the man recently dubbed on these pages as The Hair.  Parsons is a fascinating case study and one the subject of which would not be given due attention without a longer piece....so we'll do that, later.  But for now: I think many seem to misunderstand absolute and relative value.  Parsons is far and away the best value contract in the league, but if normalized for salary, that perceived value drastically diminishes.  Now, indeed, Parsons is a rock solid glue-man who I hope retires in red.  But if we're being honest with ourselves, some more painful truths need to be spoken.  At the $10million/annual he'll likely command, Parsons suddenly isn't indispensable and a business man like Morey will likely pause and give second thought to the check he is cashing.  But I truly believe he'll swallow down because, in some instances, a premium must be paid for the synergistic values of chemistry and longevity.  To wit, in a vacuum, there would probably be better options than Parsons for the amount he might get.  But for the reputational goodwill that would be destroyed if casting him out (after his role in recruiting Dwight), and for what he brings as the team's longest tenured player, the price will be worth it.  But let's be honest with ourselves in reaching that conclusion.

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    #2 Steven

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      Posted 20 August 2013 - 11:11 PM

      This off season will determine Parsons longevity in Houston. Either he is extended, option not picked up so the Rockets can match or traded. I don't see Morey going into year 4 with Parsons considering he will be an unrestricted free agent.

      Edited by Steven, 20 August 2013 - 11:12 PM.

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        Posted 20 August 2013 - 11:21 PM

        Don't forget David Wesley and *tears* Ryan Bowen starting in the playoffs because Juwan Howard was out with his heart condition.

         

        On the topic of Chandler Parson's contract - most obvious comparison is Nic Batum who is making about $11m per season.  I think Batum is better (defensively, shooting, overall consistency) at this point in his career.  I think a $10m per is very plausible but depending on Morey's plan, may be too much to commit unless Parsons becomes more consistent this season.


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        #4 timetodienow1234567

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        Posted 20 August 2013 - 11:42 PM

        Shooting? What? LOL. Everything else I agree with.
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          Posted 21 August 2013 - 01:08 AM

          <br /><br /><p>I think we can get him for around 8 or 9 considering we will be a winning team and he might want to stay with that and our core of young guys.</p>
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            Posted 21 August 2013 - 01:15 AM

            I think anywhere from 9-12m is reasonable for parsons, the length is what will be the major question If you think Dwight will play out his full 4 years here and beyond that, then you give parsons a 4-5 yr and don't worry about having cap space since harden Dwight already take up so much you won't have significant space either way. If you think Dwight opts out in 3 years and you want to maximize potential space to add another star then you probably give parsons a 2-3 yr deal to keep flexibility.
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            #7 timetodienow1234567

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            Posted 21 August 2013 - 01:24 AM

            He's worth 8-9 right now. If he improves his defense and his handles some he will cost 11-13
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              Posted 21 August 2013 - 01:32 AM



              Huq, I like your points about the Brewer signing. Outside of Garcia, I don't have any basis to think that any of the other guys necessarily lend themselves to praise on their signing. But our biggest need by far post signing Howard is wing defense. If we weren't going to sign a guy like Allen or go for Iggy if Dwight didn't work, then Brewer is a nice pick up. Hopefully he is good enough for 15 minutes a game of solid D and doing all of the other things besides scoring on the offensive end.

              Love this blog. Keep it up.


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              #9 2016Champions

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              Posted 21 August 2013 - 01:36 AM

              I had to stop reading after the first 2 lines. I'm sorry but Casspi is a better player than Brewer.
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              Posted 21 August 2013 - 01:38 AM

              I had to stop reading after the first 2 lines. I'm sorry but Casspi is a better player than Brewer.


              I agree. You can't be a wing and not shoot the three in today's NBA.
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                Posted 21 August 2013 - 02:12 AM

                I had to stop reading after the first 2 lines. I'm sorry but Casspi is a better player than Brewer.

                They both had generally poor seasons last year, I believe casspi is a little more talented but wouldn't be suprised if either one didnt make the roster.
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                #12 Buckko

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                  Posted 21 August 2013 - 02:41 AM

                  I wanna see Williams.
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                    Posted 21 August 2013 - 02:47 AM

                    are these guys battling for position right now? When does this showdown take place?


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                    Posted 21 August 2013 - 02:50 AM

                    are these guys battling for position right now? When does this showdown take place?


                    At training camp in practice.
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                      Posted 21 August 2013 - 02:53 AM



                      Best season of Casspi RAPM : -0.6

                      best Season of Brewer RAPM: 1.0

                      3s are good, but we can easily throw out 4 guys that can shoot at this point, what we really don't have, is 2 guys you can legitimately throw at 2 star wings (like say... Lebron and Wade, maybe you heard of them.) Garcia did a good job of it last year, sort of , but one has to note there isn't a whole lot of evidence that he is really a lock down defender. where as there is considerable evidence that Brewer is basically 85% Tony Allen.


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                      Posted 21 August 2013 - 06:01 AM

                      Certain systems enhance certain players, and Thibbs system really did make Brewer look like Tony Allen. The Rockets system will enhance Casspi more than it will Allen, and for whatever it's worth Casspi is also a good defender although I give Brewer the slight edge defensively. Offensively Casspi runs real hard in transition, and he can shoot, making him a perfect fit.

                      Edited by 2016Champions, 21 August 2013 - 06:08 AM.

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                      Posted 21 August 2013 - 06:16 AM

                      Also for whatever it's worth Casspi has been very impressive as usual for his national team.
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                        Posted 21 August 2013 - 02:22 PM



                        A great Rockets article as usual. This site has by far and away the best content of any Rockets oriented site. And http://wagesofwins.c...ton-is-stocked/ is a good WP48 appraisal of the Rockets roster. Worth the read.

                        As far as Parsons goes it is impossible to overestimate his locker room and off the court contributions.


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                        Posted 21 August 2013 - 11:41 PM

                        I disagree on the Casspi and Williams signings - I think they were as good as if not better than we could hope for to replace Delfino's production, hopefully in a slightly more reliable manner. I reckon both will have a good shot of challenging Garcia for minutes at the backup wing spot. Brewer gives us a different look and will be useful in certain matchups. However, given Lin and Harden generate a good deal of their effectiveness through penetration, I just don't see how Brewer is going to get court time. Defenses are going to cheat off him hideously - forget having both Dwight and Asik on the court, it's having a wing that can't shoot that will really kill the spacing. The only way it would work is if you make sure that whoever you have playing the 4 at the same time as him can shoot the three, and even then it's far from ideal since you're asking Brewer to do rebounding work instead of your Power Forward.

                         

                        Brewer's inability to find a team earlier is because the last couple of seasons have taught front offices that the "3" part of 3-and-D is really important. Now, it might be that Morey has spotted an inefficiency here and that people are putting too much weight on that skill...but personally I think the "shooting is required" era has begun and Brewer will find himself glued to the bench for most of next season.

                         

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                          Posted 22 August 2013 - 07:59 AM

                          ST makes very valid points. Brewer is going to have to become a more effective 3 point shooter with this roster to get extended minutes. As usual, the Rockets are spreading the risk by signing Garcia, Casspi, Williams and Brewer as really only 1-2 of these guys need to be effective. Just not enough minutes to give all 4 playing time on a regular basis. And something akin to Garcia, once given the playing time in the playoffs, turning into an effective wing player that could play effective defense and shoot the 3 made the loss of Delfino during the playoffs more palatable. Same could happen this season, 1-2 of these guys could be sitting on the end of the bench for a significant time of the season then finally start clicking.

                          Just great low risk moves by Morey and the Rockets with their off-season moves.

                          I can't wait for the season to start. Heck, I'm fired up for a change for the preseason to get going. I usually don't bother to attend those games but probably will this year!
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