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How does the western conference stack up next year?


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#1 rockets best fan

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Posted 04 August 2013 - 08:25 PM

I was over in another thread reading some of TTDN thoughts and it got me thinking. withal of the offseason moves that have been made by western conference teams what is the expected fallout? I only ask that each of you understand that no one is right until the outcome of the games next year so be respectful of other's opinions :rolleyes: I will get us started

1. OKC......while I expect them to be suspect in the playoffs they are a great  regular season team returning a lot of last years team. how they answer the scoring off the bench problem is big for them

2. the Spurs........ditto OKC except add the age factor

3. Houston......if I get to much into this it will sound like I'm bragging :lol: if I'm a little to deep someone throw me a life line :lol: I love this team......well even Lin a little too :lol: but for different reasons(like trade bait)but I won't get into that. we are STACKED. the only reason I have us at 3 is because I'm giving a little time for this team to find it's footing, but once we do.......I already predicted parade in downtown next year so you know how I feel :rolleyes:

4.the Clippers........I like what they have done this year and Doc can only be considered the X factor. I think at some point  we will have to deal with them.

5. Golden State......I like the acquisition of Iggy, but I think they have underestimated the value of J-Jack and Landry and it will cost them

6.Memphis........losing your coach can't be considered positive. they are a big ? mark. I think they rode the luck of the draw to last years success. I don't think it will happen again 

7. Dallas......if Dirk stay healthy next year they are here (IMO) they made a run last year at the end with a worse team....they'll be in the thick of it this year

8. Minny.......same as Dallas healthy players is most important

 

 

 

worthy of mention............NO, Denver,



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    Posted 04 August 2013 - 09:34 PM

    Thunder
    Spurs
    Clips
    Houston
    GS
    Grizz
    Portland
    Dallas

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    Posted 04 August 2013 - 09:44 PM

    I will present my playoff team rankings later when I have more time to write but with regards to your list I believe Dallas is out and Denver is in. Denver's home court advantage cannot be disregarded. When teams play there back to backs after crossing multiple time zones in a couple days Denver wins. Denver is set up again to win a large percentage of their home games and once Galinari is back they will knock someone out of the playoffs down the stretch.
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    Posted 04 August 2013 - 10:16 PM

    Thunder
    Spurs
    Clips
    Houston
    GS
    Grizz
    Portland
    Dallas


    Pretty good list. Imo the top 6 are practically interchangeable because the gap in wins between them will be so small. I've got Minnesota, Portland, Denver, and Dallas fighting for the last 2 spots. I think Stotts is a terrible coach for Portland, and I don't know about Denver's coach, so my bet's on Dallas and Minnesota.

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      Posted 04 August 2013 - 11:33 PM

      Thunder or Spurs will be 1st and 2nd

      3. Houston

      4. Clippers will be 4th because they will not have any defense and they have no other bigs besides Blake and Deandre who is pretty bad.

      5. GS

      6. Grizzlies 

      7. Timberwolves

      8. Blazers or Nuggets



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        Posted 05 August 2013 - 12:14 AM

        1. Houston (if Lin is traded, 3rd if he is the PG)
        2. OKC
        3. Clippers
        4. Spurs
        5. Memphis
        6. GSW
        7. Nuggets
        8. T-Wolves.

        Edited by Steven, 05 August 2013 - 12:15 AM.


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        Posted 05 August 2013 - 12:19 AM

        1. Houston (if Lin is traded, 3rd if he is the PG)
        2. OKC
        3. Clippers
        4. Spurs
        5. Memphis
        6. GSW
        7. Nuggets
        8. T-Wolves.

         

        LMFAO. 


        Why so Serious? :D


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        Posted 05 August 2013 - 01:34 AM

        LMFAO. 

        me too :lol:  :lol:



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          Posted 05 August 2013 - 02:35 AM

          I'll take a slightly more wildcard take

          1. OKC

          2. Houston

          3. Clippers

          4. Spurs

          5. Memphis

          6. GSW

          7. Wolfs

          8. Blazers

          9. Mavs

          10. Denver

          11. Pelicans

          12. Kings

          13. Lakers

          14. Jazz

          15. Suns


          Edited by RollingWave, 05 August 2013 - 02:37 AM.


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            Posted 05 August 2013 - 02:40 AM

            I'll take a slightly more wildcard take

            1. OKC

            2. Houston

            3. Clippers

            4. Spurs

            5. Memphis

            6. GSW

            7. Wolfs

            8. Blazers

            9. Mavs

            10. Denver

            11. Pelicans

            12. Kings

            13. Lakers

            14. Jazz

            15. Suns

            I just don't want the lakers to be in the lottery. They are going to understand why you don't trade away your future.



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              Posted 05 August 2013 - 04:24 AM

              OKC
              Clips

              Spurs

              Rox

              Grit n Grind

              Gstate

              Minny

              Rip city

               

              I am curious as to whether Detroit makes it...most confusing team to me.



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                Posted 05 August 2013 - 04:25 AM

                Obviously in the east though  ^



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                  Posted 05 August 2013 - 05:12 AM

                  Detroit is in the mix, but it's a open question if their square pegs fit round holes. they have a lot of question as to if their cast fits properly. and it's also a question if Jenning's disastrous defense last year was a fluke or not.

                   

                  The first 5 spot in the East is pretty locked up, it's going to be

                   

                  Heat

                  Pacers

                  Bulls

                  Nets

                  Knicks

                   

                  roughly in that order.

                   

                  the last 3 spot is up in the air, the Hawks and Wizards probably have a leg up on other teams. but the Pistons / Bucks / Raptors / Cavs are all plausible playoff teams with questions needing answers. my guess would be

                   

                  Heat

                  Pacers

                  Bulls

                  Nets

                  Knicks

                  Hawks

                  Wizards

                  Raptors

                  Pistons

                  Cavs

                  Bucks

                  Celtics

                  Bobcats 

                  Magic

                  Sixers

                   

                  I have the Raptors surprising and making the final spot. my rational is that Rudy Gay probably bounce back to a still overpaid but solid player. Lowry hopefully finally puts it mostly together at long last, and they have a very very sneaky underrated front court in Valecunas (aka what you hope Dmo becomes.) and Amir Johnson (he's basically a sneaky Paul Milsap that nobody noticed.) their fit is less of a question, their health is not as great of a concern, and they don't have blatantly open holes, while also have pretty deep roster with pretty high upside.

                   

                  (The Raptor's fit is still a little bit of an issue as both Gay and Derozon are ball hoggers and Lowry uses the ball considerably as well, but at least what they do well compliments each other , assuming that Gay's eye surgery return him to being an above average 3 point shooter.)


                  Edited by RollingWave, 05 August 2013 - 05:17 AM.


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                  Posted 05 August 2013 - 05:22 AM

                  it appears most here believe the top six in the west are solid.........even though the order is slightly different they are OKC, Houston, the Spurs, the Clippers, GSW and Memphis. also most of us believe these teams will fight for the last two slots......Denver, Dallas, NO, Portland. I see RollingWave got us started on the east



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                    Posted 05 August 2013 - 07:18 AM

                    I guess there is also the off chance that Kobe really comes back very early and defy all logic and being still effective, which might put the Lakers in the conversation if Nash and Pau is also healthy, however that's super unlikely



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                      Posted 05 August 2013 - 02:48 PM

                      I guess there is also the off chance that Kobe really comes back very early and defy all logic and being still effective, which might put the Lakers in the conversation if Nash and Pau is also healthy, however that's super unlikely

                      Have you seen their team?! They're terrible!



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                        Posted 05 August 2013 - 03:08 PM

                        I hope the lakers win enough games to be the 14th pick in the draft.  None against the Rockets though. 



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                        Posted 05 August 2013 - 06:53 PM

                        Here's my projected standings for next season :

                        East -

                        1. Miami Heat
                        2. Indiana Pacers
                        3. Chicago Bulls
                        4. Brooklyn Nets
                        5. New York Knicks
                        6. Cleveland Cavaliers
                        7. Detroit Pistons
                        8. Washington Wizards

                        9. Atlanta Hawks
                        10. Toronto Raptors
                        11. Boston Celtics
                        12. Orlando Magic
                        13. Charlotte Bobcats
                        14. Milwaukee Bucks
                        15. Philadelphia 76ers

                        West-

                        1. Oklahoma City Thunder
                        2. San Antonio Spurs
                        3. Los Angeles Clippers
                        4. Houston Rockets
                        5. Golden State Warriors
                        6. Memphis Grizzlies
                        7. Denver Nuggets
                        8. Los Angeles Lakers

                        9. New Orleans Pelicans
                        10. Minnesota Timberwolves
                        11. Portland Trailblazers
                        12. Dallas Mavericks
                        13. Sacramento Kings
                        14.Phoenix Suns
                        15. Utah Jazz

                        Edited by amacbrooks12, 05 August 2013 - 06:53 PM.


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                          Posted 06 August 2013 - 01:44 AM

                          Have you seen their team?! They're terrible!

                           

                          Yes they are, but supposedly if you have a healthy Kobe / Nash / Pau trio that should at least score enough to compete, but I'm very skeptical of them being able to defend at all, however, I think folks are underselling how good their offense could be, if those 3 are actually effective, all they need to do is to be not a bottom 5 defense to at least be in the 8th seed conversation, I think the odds of all those things lining up is terribly low (aka, the big 3 healthy, effective, AND their defense doesn't suck. ) it doesn't help that their coach is notorious for his inability to coach any semblance of defense.

                           

                          Here's my projected standings for next season :

                          East -

                          1. Miami Heat
                          2. Indiana Pacers
                          3. Chicago Bulls
                          4. Brooklyn Nets
                          5. New York Knicks
                          6. Cleveland Cavaliers
                          7. Detroit Pistons
                          8. Washington Wizards

                          9. Atlanta Hawks
                          10. Toronto Raptors
                          11. Boston Celtics
                          12. Orlando Magic
                          13. Charlotte Bobcats
                          14. Milwaukee Bucks
                          15. Philadelphia 76ers

                          West-

                          1. Oklahoma City Thunder
                          2. San Antonio Spurs
                          3. Los Angeles Clippers
                          4. Houston Rockets
                          5. Golden State Warriors
                          6. Memphis Grizzlies
                          7. Denver Nuggets
                          8. Los Angeles Lakers

                          9. New Orleans Pelicans
                          10. Minnesota Timberwolves
                          11. Portland Trailblazers
                          12. Dallas Mavericks
                          13. Sacramento Kings
                          14.Phoenix Suns
                          15. Utah Jazz

                           

                          Barring injury, I don't see why the Bucks would finish that bad, people seem to miss that their best player 3 best player last year was Larry Sanders / Ersan Ilyasova and John Henson.  all 3 are still on the team and 2 of them is likely to get better. Monta Ellis for OJ Mayo is a wash essentially, they did downgrade a little going from Jennings to Knight.. maybe (Knight is much better defensively.) but it's not like the Bucks offense were running well with Jennings.  

                           

                          The Hawks essentially swapped Smith for Paul Milsap which is a lateral move at worst, and maybe even an improvement as Milsap is much more complete offensive player. I can't see them missing the playoffs without injuries.

                           

                          On the otherhand, I figure for the Wizards or Cavs to make it they need their guys to show better health than they've had in recent years, while I have some confidence in the Wizards, the Cavs is a different story, when your 2 best player played 50 and 0 games last year, penciling them in for anything is a terrible idea.



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                            Posted 06 August 2013 - 02:27 AM

                            Lakers won't beat out the wolves and blazers, lakers will be 10th at best




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