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@  RollingWave : (05 May 2013 - 09:37 AM) Irving still need to work on a few things (most notably defense), his performance considering his age is great.
@  Dan G : (04 May 2013 - 06:50 AM) Damn..who knew tonight was gonna be close out the series night? Four Games 6s and four closeouts.
@  feelingsuper... : (04 May 2013 - 06:28 AM) Whatever comes the next few seasons (barring injuries) it will be hard to match the unadulterated excitement we had watching these young Rockets this past year, it was definitely some kind of roller coaster ride...
@  thenit : (04 May 2013 - 04:36 AM) Irving will be nasty good when LBJ will return to Cleveland as the lost son
@  thenit : (04 May 2013 - 04:36 AM) good night everyone, have a great summer and I won't be posting until july 1st. Still a proud rocket
@  LMAOwais : (04 May 2013 - 04:35 AM) i really do hate the prospect of mulling over every little piece of FA news this summer, but life of  fan I guess.
@  2016Champions : (04 May 2013 - 04:35 AM) Watch out for Irving though, that kid is shockingly good for someone who just turned 21. I wonder who will be the better player in 2 years.
@  thenit : (04 May 2013 - 04:34 AM) so small margins
@  thenit : (04 May 2013 - 04:34 AM) Overall a good season though didn't expect to get this far, but its always hard when you get your hopes up, imagine if that ball KD shot in game 3 didn't fall
@  2016Champions : (04 May 2013 - 04:33 AM) Yeah in 2 years Harden is top 10 for sure, hopefully top 5.
@  thenit : (04 May 2013 - 04:33 AM) I wish we could fastforward to july 2nd and know what happened during Free agency
@  thenit : (04 May 2013 - 04:32 AM) those 10 I named I take over Harden TODAY, but in 2 Years, LBJ and KD are the only 2 I would pick over, maybe Westbrook and George
@  2016Champions : (04 May 2013 - 04:30 AM) I can't name 10 player I would take over Harden, but I can name 10 players who played better in the first round.
@  thenit : (04 May 2013 - 04:30 AM) but if you say if I take them over Harden in 2 years its KD, LBJ for sure, the rest probably not
@  pharmag : (04 May 2013 - 04:29 AM) True nit, but again fixable.  With an offseason to play together, we should see a pretty big improvement.  I think even with the current roster and an offseason, this team can challenge for top 4 seed
@  thenit : (04 May 2013 - 04:29 AM) some of them are valued about the same as harden or less, but their overall package with D and attitude puts them over the top
@  thenit : (04 May 2013 - 04:29 AM) KD, Westbrook, Parker, Duncan, LBJ, Wade, Curry, D12, Melo, Paul George,
@  thenit : (04 May 2013 - 04:27 AM) Pharm: yea but thats the same on Offense, if he doesn't have the ball he just stands 5 feet behind the arc
@  PKM : (04 May 2013 - 04:27 AM) Name 10 players you would take over Harden right now.
@  thenit : (04 May 2013 - 04:27 AM) PKM: I agree there, but he stole the ball twice from Harden that led to 5 easy points


Josh Smith vs Andre Iguodala

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#1 Chichos


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    Posted 03 May 2013 - 05:22 PM

    Apparently Iggy has an early termination option in his contract so this is assuming he opts out



    18ppg on 15.6 shots a game. .303 3pt% 4.2FTA. 8.4 RPG, 4.2 ast, 1.8blocks, 1.2 steals, 3 TO




    We already know all about JSmoove, he is JR Smith but taller and not as good at shooting.



    13ppg on 11 shots, .317% 3pt%, 3.4 FTA, 5.3 rpg, 5.4 ast, .7 blocks, 1.7 steals, 2.6 TO


    He is the Marion of our generation.


    So do you go with the high character guy that lets you play small and gives you what he gives you consistantly?  Or do you go with the highly variable guy who can single handedly blowout you or your opponent?


    I doubt Iggy opts out, but if they are commanding similar money...  I like Iggy to check our opponents best wing (a serious weakness that Garcia is helping us paper over right now) plus give you consistant numbers.

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      Posted 03 May 2013 - 05:25 PM

      Andre Iguodala | ETO (early termination option): Iguodala can tear up the final $16.2 million of his deal and become a free agent. As I mentioned earlier, he was Denver's most consistent perimeter defender and was able to play to his strengths (facilitating, defending). More importantly, he was appreciated for it, something that didn't happen in Philadelphia. How much do you pay him? Will he seek a change of scenery anyway?


      This is from an ESPN Insider article its pretty long and only this bit applies to this conversation.

      #3 Steven


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        Posted 03 May 2013 - 05:37 PM

        AI>Smith. Both cost to much.

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          Posted 03 May 2013 - 11:04 PM

          Iggy should be cheaper than smith and takes less bad shots, would be interesting but is alittle old for a 4yr deal at the money he will command in my opinion.

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          Posted 03 May 2013 - 11:42 PM

          That's alot of money for Iggy and he's in a good situation, I don't see him opting out.


          If we get Josh Smith I just hope the goal is to include him (maybe with Thomas Robinson) in a trade for Kevin Love who seems very disgruntled with his organization. I like Josh Smith, but I think Kevin Love has superstar potential.

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          Posted 04 May 2013 - 02:09 PM

          I can't see Iggy turning down $16M, to be honest. He would be a great fit alongside Harden, but it's not happening.



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          Posted 04 May 2013 - 02:23 PM

          While I like what Iggy has done I don't see how using a big chunk of our cap on him is wise.  He can't play PF.  He has to get minutes at SF and SG--which are minutes that could go to Harden/Parsons.  The only reasonable thought is we are going to play small ball all year with Harden, Lin/Bev, Iggy, Parsons and Asik.  Not the worst thing that could happen.  We need another reliable big body that can play defense and give us a little something on offense.  Hopefully one of our young guys can make the leap this Summer and give us the flexibility to consider such an option....

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            Posted 04 May 2013 - 11:37 PM

            He's a bad fit. No reason to pay that much for a back-up. He plays 2-3. Our best player is a two. And one of the best bargains in the NBA is our 3. Makes no sense for AI. He also doesn't shoot the ball from deep well enough in my opinion to play wing in this system.

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