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@  2016Champions : (06 April 2013 - 05:31 AM) I like the way McHale's guard rotation today, Lin was on fire while Harden was on the bench. His PF rotation was also pretty solid. Obviously a few guys need to step up, TJones and Anderson both ahd a bad game. Man, I feel like we're getting more and more dangerous by the minute!
@  phaketrash : (06 April 2013 - 05:15 AM) Some nice garbage minutes from TRob, even if most of the stuff didn't pan out, you can see the raw talent and high motor
@  2016Champions : (06 April 2013 - 05:03 AM) He almost beat that pg to the loose ball despite a 2 yard head start
@  2016Champions : (06 April 2013 - 05:03 AM) Thomas Robinson showing off his potential
@  BenQueens : (06 April 2013 - 05:02 AM) Robinson showing some desire for minutes there.
@  BenQueens : (06 April 2013 - 04:58 AM) Harden rested a fair amount of the 4th, but yeah: We should see the Anderson/Garcia/Bev.
@  thenit : (06 April 2013 - 04:58 AM) not a bad backcourt production
@  thenit : (06 April 2013 - 04:57 AM) Harden Bev and Lin combined 62 points, 20 assists, 13 rebounds and 4 steals
@  2016Champions : (06 April 2013 - 04:57 AM) I would have rest them the whole 4th quarter.
@  2016Champions : (06 April 2013 - 04:56 AM) Up 20 with 3 minutes left.
@  thenit : (06 April 2013 - 04:56 AM) yea its a 20 point game now
@  2016Champions : (06 April 2013 - 04:56 AM) If he doesn't rest the starters here it will be the dumbest move I've ever seen him make.
@  2016Champions : (06 April 2013 - 04:54 AM) But I thin it's time to rest the starters, we have to pay Nuggets tomorrow.
@  2016Champions : (06 April 2013 - 04:54 AM) Yeah, I knew he would come around eventually.
@  BenQueens : (06 April 2013 - 04:53 AM) That Harden eurostep after the turnover around the 5:10 mark... wow.
@  thenit : (06 April 2013 - 04:51 AM) Finally Mchale has figured it out 2016, he ahd Lin or Harden on the floor during the whole game :)
@  phaketrash : (06 April 2013 - 04:45 AM) And GSmith being GSmith...bullying into 19 pts and 5 rebounds...and 5 fouls lol.
@  BenQueens : (06 April 2013 - 04:45 AM) Lot of rest for Harden down the stretch here. Looks like he's coming back in as Smith fouls out.
@  phaketrash : (06 April 2013 - 04:45 AM) Love it when Lin warms up in the second half of games haha.
@  2016Champions : (06 April 2013 - 04:41 AM) This LAL MEM game is so much more itense and exciting

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Is Parsons already a top 10 SF?


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#1 phaketrash

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 03:40 AM

Setting aside his glorious contract, is Parsons already a top 10 SF in the league? Or rather, setting money aside, how many SFs would you take over Parsons right now? (regardless of fit on our team) For me, only in approximate order:

 

1. LBJ

2. Durant

3. Melo

4. Paul Pierce

5. Paul George

6. Batum

7. Luol Deng

8. Iguodala (if counted as SF)

9. Kawhi Leonard

10. Chandler Parsons

 

Iggy only if we think he counts as an SF for the purposes of these rankings. I don't think JSmoove should really count as an SF, so I didn't put him in this list. I suppose you could swap him and Iggy in this list. I put Pierce on this list even though I would not do such a trade because of his age, but Pierce is better right now so I mean, he really has to be ranked higher than Parsons.

 

Rudy Gay is one of the most inefficient shooters, and a volume shooter no less. He's horrible from distances that matter :P No way I'd take him over Parsons, even for the same amount. 

 

Lots of people like Gallinari over Parsons, but that makes NO sense to me. Parsons leads Gallo in practically every stat, and simply plays better. Gallo shoots worse from 3 range, and has ~41% FG%...his off ball movement and other stats and defense are not really superior to Parsons either. 

 

Gordon Hayward I rank equal to Parsons. I'd take either, they're both pretty darn good. 

 

So does that mean we already have a top 10 SF player?



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Posted 05 April 2013 - 03:51 AM

I think that's a fair assessment. even tho you have paul geroge twice :P  at the beginning of this year I was still riding the fence on parsons, but he has proven his worth to me. contracts are unimportant to me......after all I don't pay them directly....thank god :lol: however parson is becoming the perfect glue guy to me.....a little bit of everything. so at this point I would have to agree he is a top 10 SF

 

 

 

my bad that's piecre :lol:



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Posted 05 April 2013 - 03:56 AM

I think that's a fair assessment. even tho you have paul geroge twice :P  at the beginning of this year I was still riding the fence on parsons, but he has proven his worth to me. contracts are unimportant to me......after all I don't pay them directly....thank god :lol: however parson is becoming the perfect glue guy to me.....a little bit of everything. so at this point I would have to agree he is a top 10 SF

 

 

 

my bad that's piecre :lol:

 

I agree. He is a very good glue guy. He does off the ball stuff really well. Knows where to be, yet can do some stuff off the dribble. Can rebound, can defend, can assist, can shoot the 3, can work in the paint a bit, and can only get better.

 

^all this in his 2nd season, and as the 38th!!! draft pick



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Posted 05 April 2013 - 04:14 AM

Kawhi?

Why so Serious? :D


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Posted 05 April 2013 - 04:15 AM

I like Kawhi Leonard and Gallinari a little better (Gallo has been playing through an injured wrist this season. When healthy we saw Gallo outplay Parsons so bad it was embaressing) but Parsons definately has an argument. Kirilenko and Marion are worthy notables.  


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Posted 05 April 2013 - 04:31 AM

Yes, I totally forgot Kawhi. He would be on that list, pushing Parsons to 10. Let me edit that.

 

As for Gallo, that is quite a long time ago...it'd be like putting Granger on there based on a dream, oh so long ago. Now w/ another injury? Who knows what Gallo we'll see next season. 

 

Kirilenko and Marion are honorable mentions, but they're in their twilight, and do certain things better than Parsons, but I still wouldn't take them over Parsons (even while setting aside age and contract).



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Posted 05 April 2013 - 04:51 AM

And we have to remember that George played SF (which I do believe is his natural position) because of Granger's injury, not sure what's gonna happen when they reunite in the court.

 

But it's a fair statement, Parsons might as well be the 10th-ish in the list. Some of us will like some players a little more, or a little less, but it's fair to say that Parsons is up there.



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Posted 05 April 2013 - 06:05 AM

Yes, I totally forgot Kawhi. He would be on that list, pushing Parsons to 10. Let me edit that.

 

As for Gallo, that is quite a long time ago...it'd be like putting Granger on there based on a dream, oh so long ago. Now w/ another injury? Who knows what Gallo we'll see next season. 

 

Kirilenko and Marion are honorable mentions, but they're in their twilight, and do certain things better than Parsons, but I still wouldn't take them over Parsons (even while setting aside age and contract).

It was this season, not that long ago...

 

01/23/13 box score

01/30/13

 

Outplayed Parsons on both occasions. If that's too long ago we might as well start saying Lowry > Rondo too.


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Posted 05 April 2013 - 06:55 AM

It was this season, not that long ago...

 

01/23/13 box score

01/30/13

 

Outplayed Parsons on both occasions. If that's too long ago we might as well start saying Lowry > Rondo too.

 

Oh sry, I had thought you meant the last season when Gallo played well. He did well those two games against Parsons, but even early on in this season, he sort of sucked it up hard for the most part. I know -- he was/is on my fantasy team :( 



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    Posted 05 April 2013 - 01:56 PM

    Considering Gallo is out for awhile, Parsons is better.

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    Posted 05 April 2013 - 02:02 PM

    I have to agree, Gallo going down with an ACL injury on top of his injury prone wrist kind of takes him out the conversation. Parsons practically wins by default.


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    Posted 05 April 2013 - 03:10 PM

    Is "Crash" being overlooked? Wallace from the Nets.

     

    What about MWP? He's at least worth an honorable mention, as much as I hate him off the court.

     

    Butler-pre Dallas/LAC was pretty good.

     

    Ilyasova?

     

    Batum?

     

    Jeff Green?

     

    All I can say is, the SF position is LOADED with talent.


    Why so Serious? :D


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    Posted 05 April 2013 - 03:37 PM

    Is "Crash" being overlooked? Wallace from the Nets.

     

    What about MWP? He's at least worth an honorable mention, as much as I hate him off the court.

     

    Butler-pre Dallas/LAC was pretty good.

     

    Ilyasova?

     

    Batum?

     

    Jeff Green?

     

    All I can say is, the SF position is LOADED with talent.

     

    Wallace? This season? No way. If we were comparing Wallace from a few yrs ago, maybe, but he's lost what edge his athleticism gave him. Even this yr, he is posting a well below league average PER of 11..97, w/ 8.1 PPG from 40% FG shooting, 30 min of play! His 3pt%, rebounds, assists, pretty much everything are worse than Parsons.

     

    MWP also...a few years ago, definitely, but his once dominant performance on the defensive end is now just 'pretty good.' But if you mean to say he's worth an honorable mention, then I'd agree.

     

    lol you're naming a lot of people who would be in this convo a few years ago, but not today.

     

    Ilyasova I really like, and he's worth mentioning, but I don't think he's top 10. Parsons does a lot of stuff off the ball much better than him, and can actually make some plays, unlike Ersan.

     

    Batum is on my list and ahead of Parsons.

     

    Jeff Green is good, but come now, would you honestly take him over Parsons?



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    Posted 05 April 2013 - 04:07 PM

    Doesn't Ilyasova play most of his minutes at the 4? And I believe Jeff Green is playing alot of his minutes at the 4 too. If Josh Smith isn't a 3 then these guys shouldn't be either.


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    Posted 05 April 2013 - 04:47 PM

    I think he's top ten, and age/contract give him an excellent shot at creeping up the list over the next few years, especially if we bring in a second star to pair with Harden, thus affording Parsons more open looks.



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    Posted 05 April 2013 - 04:48 PM

    I know Ilyasova plays both a lot. Don't keep up w/ Bucks games enough to know how much he spends at either position though tbh.






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