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[red94] The Houston Rockets are in a really good spot (Bynum or Howard?)


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#41 Lyfestyle

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    Posted 19 July 2012 - 03:03 PM

    I think you guys are overvaluing the summer league results quite a bit. It's basically the D-League (which Marcus Morris dominated last year). Our guys looking good in a few summer league games doesn't necessarily mean they'll ever be good NBA players.

    Don't fall into the obvious fan trap of inflating the value of guys just because they're on your team.
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    #42 Mario Peña

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    Posted 19 July 2012 - 03:23 PM

    So he did. My mistake. Still think we should make the attempt, but not at too great a cost. The amount of size possible in next year's draft is sizable. Heh.

    http://nbadraft.net/2013mock_draft


    Freebird there are so many moving parts, rumours and contract intricacies during free agency that we all miss things. Seems like if you miss a day or two of news you can easily miss something. Being part of the Red94 Forum has really kept me up to date and has taught me a few things too. Anyroad, I agree Bynum should be the number one goal and as Lifestyle writes it is an easy time of the year to overvalue the Summer Leaguers.
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      Posted 19 July 2012 - 03:28 PM

      My understanding is that the Lakers would take on Richardson's salary as well--they could do so b/c Bynum is paid somewhat less than Howard right now. That takes the pressure off of us to take on bad contracts.
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      Posted 19 July 2012 - 04:02 PM

      I think you guys are overvaluing the summer league results quite a bit. It's basically the D-League (which Marcus Morris dominated last year). Our guys looking good in a few summer league games doesn't necessarily mean they'll ever be good NBA players.

      Don't fall into the obvious fan trap of inflating the value of guys just because they're on your team.


      As I see it, Summer League gives you a glimpse of what these players could be like if they can adjust to the big step up in size and speed that comes with the move into the NBA. What it doesn't do is give you any assurances that they will be able to successfully make that transition. It's up to McHale and the coaching staff to prepare them for that as best they can (difficult, when you don't really have any examples on your roster for them to practice against).

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      Posted 19 July 2012 - 04:47 PM

      I think you guys are overvaluing the summer league results quite a bit. It's basically the D-League (which Marcus Morris dominated last year). Our guys looking good in a few summer league games doesn't necessarily mean they'll ever be good NBA players.

      Don't fall into the obvious fan trap of inflating the value of guys just because they're on your team.


      It is hard to compare summer league to the D League when many of the players who participate in the Summer league will make NBA 15 man roster teams, will Start on some NBA teams (Lilliard, Leonard, Ross, Henson and MKG to name a few) and never have to visit the D-League. It is a different level of competition due to the fact that the D-League will receive the leftovers from the players not added from summer league. Sure, we might overvalue how our squad has performed during its summer league performance, but all that shows is a strong belief in the future development in our team along with hope that maybe next year will not pan out as bad as many analyst/spectators are expecting us to be.
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      Posted 19 July 2012 - 06:18 PM

      @pharmag

      The point of all this is not giving up all the things you said. I think Hennigan wants all that stuff from us and Morey is not bending over, in my opinion.



      @Johnny Rocket

      The Lakers are way over the cap, so in order to make that work, they can't be taking even way more salary (Howard makes more money than Bynum and Richardson would raise that number). So they are gonna give up something like Metta and it's more likely to send him here. I think that in order to pull that, we'd be getting one bad contract from each side if Lakers are willing to land Richardson (something like Metta and Turk, or Metta, Duhon and Davis).
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        Posted 19 July 2012 - 06:32 PM

        Douglas contract is not "free" to other teams. The Rockets would have to ship money in the trade. Alexander got free money from the Knicks why would he give it to someone else?
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          Posted 19 July 2012 - 06:37 PM

          Interesting. Like you guys, just a few days ago, I thought Howard was a must-get no-brainer. But now, after seeing these guys play, while I still think he should be the main focus, I'm not willing to give up too much. No better bargaining position than when you don't need to do the deal.

          I think the team will be terrible without Howard, but if they're actually good, the exciting thing is that it means they were good because of the young players! No more useless production like Scola/Dalembert carrying the team to wins.

          I really want to know what it would take to get Bynum here. If you can give up say, just the Toronto pick and take back only one bad contract, and not give up any of the rookies, that would be incredible.


          There you go, falling back to your old self.

          Look, if we don't get Howard this will be the same old same old Rockets, a team built on hard wordking blue colar type players that will get you the 14th pick in the draft.

          I'm very excited Morey corrected his collsal mistake in getting Lin back but if we don't get Howard we won't be able to go after Chris Paul next season.

          Also everyone is forgetting the next draft is going to be one of the all time worst drafts with no super star potential
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            Posted 19 July 2012 - 06:40 PM

            Summer League is the same as when you see NFL players practice w/o pads. Everyone looks great and it's 100% meaningless.

            Anyone who is happy not wanting to get Howard simply doesn't follow the NBA.
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              Posted 19 July 2012 - 06:44 PM

              Agreed with most of you all above. Summer league shows us what they can become one day. But if as currently composed, this team will be dreadful next year. That's not a bad thing at all, IMHO.


              It's a very bad thing when the next draft won't have any upside star talent.
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                Posted 19 July 2012 - 07:14 PM

                I just think the conventional wisdom around here moving from "We must get Howard" to "We love our kids!" after 5 summer league games is kinda silly. They've played well against other rookies and guys who won't ever play in the league. It's better than them looking poorly in the summer league, but it's not anything to hang our team's future on, necessarily.
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                  Posted 19 July 2012 - 07:19 PM

                  You guys do have good points. I kind of waver on it. But you're right. The bird in the hand (Dwight) is always better.
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                  Posted 19 July 2012 - 07:34 PM

                  i dont care about the recent reports of dwight saying he'll re-sign with LA and dwight doesnt think he can win in houston. id still prefer him as my top choice. im pretty sure, MONEY, morey, hakeem, lin, lee, whomever/whatever can convince him to re-sign eventually. my second choice would be for the young guys / rebuild. i would really dislike a scenario where we land bynum, unless its on the cheap (which i dont see happening). his injuries scare me.
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                  #54 Mario Peña

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                  Posted 19 July 2012 - 07:35 PM

                  I personally have been thinking about the Rocket scenarios more than any fan should. Earlier today I was debating whether Howard or Bynum would be the best fit for the Rockets but both would be great even though they both have weaknesses. I have changed my mind again as to the desired outcomes Howard is priority number one, then Bynum and then the youth movement. It has been shown the Lake show want Howard so he couod always be flipped to them if necessary. Having the best cards in the game is the goal.
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                  Posted 19 July 2012 - 07:40 PM

                  I personally have been thinking about the Rocket scenarios more than any fan should. Earlier today I was debating whether Howard or Bynum would be the best fit for the Rockets but both would be great even though they both have weaknesses. I have changed my mind again as to the desired outcomes Howard is priority number one, then Bynum and then the youth movement. It has been shown the Lake show want Howard so he couod always be flipped to them if necessary. Having the best cards in the game is the goal.


                  you have no concerns over bynums injuries (history) ?
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                  #56 Mario Peña

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                  Posted 19 July 2012 - 08:19 PM

                  I do and I would include his injuries on his list of weaknesses but saying that there are strategies you can take on and off the court. After Yao I would expext everything to be part of the plan from preventive treatments, to a specially trained staff, to having a good backup center, pacing him during the season and everything in between. Risk is part of most any equation with a good payoff.
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                  Posted 19 July 2012 - 08:44 PM

                  I think the great upside from getting Howard over Bynum is that Dwight has proven that he can lead a team to near contention without any help, while Bynum has always performed on the shadow of Kobe. Of course, the fact is that Howard is habituated to put the team in his shoulder and carry them, but Bynum could do that too. We all know what Dwight can do, but not everyone feels the same way about Bynum. I think Bynum has more upsides for us, while Howard has reached his ceilling (a very very good one, by the way).
                  I've said a lot of times that I wouldn't feel bad if we keep our young ones, but either way could benefit us, short term or on the long run. We really are in a good place right now, let's face it. It's up to Morey to take us there, right?
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                  Posted 19 July 2012 - 08:45 PM

                  man ill be pretty disappointed if we end up with bynum. ive soured on that potential outcome quite a bit.
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                    Posted 19 July 2012 - 09:00 PM

                    i dont care about the recent reports of dwight saying he'll re-sign with LA and dwight doesnt think he can win in houston. id still prefer him as my top choice. im pretty sure, MONEY, morey, hakeem, lin, lee, whomever/whatever can convince him to re-sign eventually. my second choice would be for the young guys / rebuild. i would really dislike a scenario where we land bynum, unless its on the cheap (which i dont see happening). his injuries scare me.


                    Hands down, no brainer, without a doubt getting Howard is the best option out of all mentioned and it's not even close. I'm honestly shocked how anyone who watches NBA disagrees with that. If you can get the most dominant center in the game you do it, if he doesn't want to resign after a year and is willing to throw that extra 25 or 30 million then there's nothing we can do about it. We can then go in tank mode. Also this next draft is touted as being possibly one of the all time worst drafts so picking early next year's draft isn't ideal.
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                    #60 Kade

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                      Posted 19 July 2012 - 09:04 PM

                      Anytime one star player can carry a team into the finals you try to get him and don't even ask questions. Could anyone we trade Orlando turn out to be a star? Sure but it's not probable. if Orlando hadn't screwed up their team they could have been back to multiple final appearances hell if Morey was running Orlando at the time they definitely would have.

                      Howard, like his attitude or not, is one of only a few players who can carry his team to the finals alone and that's very rare in the NBA.
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