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Should the Rockets Pay Dragic 10 Million Per Year or More?


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#21 JarredAllen

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Posted 03 July 2012 - 06:07 PM

I really like Dragic, but not at that price tag! 10 Million is a larger number for someone who only played half a year, but he did show sparks of greatness and could very easily be a 18-20PPG and 7-10APG player next year and moving forward. He is young and exciting. With the talent around him, he could surprise people, but do we take that chance? Lowry has a better contract, but doesn't like our system or McHale and whats going to change him from thinking that if he gets hurt again, we could dump him the following year like we have to Brooks and are trying to do to him (Lowry) now? I say we pony up and shoot for 8-10 Million per year, maybe back load it like Asik contract and move Lowry for a smaller contract and another first round pick for next year. I have always been told, a bird in the hand is better than 2 in the bush.... or something like that. Dragic wants to play here, lowry doesn't! Dragic wants big money, so pay him and move Lowry! Lowry makes 5.8 per year dragic at 10 per year! Sucks, but we need to do it!
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    Posted 03 July 2012 - 06:55 PM

    According to Feigen and Broussard; Rockets are meeting with Lin tomorrow.


    This changes my thoughts completely. Please offer DRAGIC 10m.

    The bigger waste(in my opinion) is offering Lin 4m(probably close to the offer) and him taking it than vociferous Dragic 10m when we probably offered him about 6m. Either way you're overpaying by 2m, may as well get the better player. PLEASE NO TO LIN.
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      Posted 03 July 2012 - 07:26 PM

      Chris Paul is awesome but he will get hurt. Regarding Dragic and comparing him he would be getting the same amount of money as Rajon Rondo. I would trade him for Rondo in less than 1 second. If someone actually wants to pay that for a player that can't drive with his right hand and is under 6'3" to be honest I think we should let him go. If we can sign and trade him that is nice, but I don't think Phoenix is going to give us anything back we really want?

      Based on what I saw over the course of the entire season and what I have been shown statistically comparing Lowry's first half and Dragic's late season performances I would prefer to have Lowry (salary being equal), but if Lowry can't exist happily with McHale that does change things.

      Does signing Dragic to 10 million basically cripple our ability to take on a large free agent contract? I don't know enough about the cap to understand that side of the decision.

      If the rockets believe Dragic can be the 3rd best player on a championship team then they should pay him 10 million. He would be worth it. I think he is a slightly above average point guard so I wouldn't pay it.
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      #24 Rahat Huq

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        Posted 03 July 2012 - 07:27 PM

        Looks like the Rockets are pursuing Jeremy Lin now..
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          Posted 03 July 2012 - 07:33 PM

          Dragic at $10 million makes absolutely no sense. It precludes major deals down the road, and without a major deal the Rockets should just rebuild. Let's face it--Dragic is a good starting guard, but you don't build a team around him, especially at $10 per year. Lin is good enough to contend with the right pieces, and gives you the flexibility to trade Lowry. There is another angle here--bringing in Lin might be a message to Dragic that he's overpriced out of the market.
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            Posted 03 July 2012 - 07:38 PM

            $10million+ is just too much for Dragic. Loved the guy, think he's better than Jeremy Lin, but that's just too much.
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              Posted 03 July 2012 - 07:50 PM

              $10million+ is just too much for Dragic. Loved the guy, think he's better than Jeremy Lin, but that's just too much.


              It's too much for Dragic, agreed, but shouldn't Lowry's trade value continue to be a part of the equation?

              If Dragic signs elsewhere, I think it's likely we keep Lowry (at $6m a year), who's our most attractive trade chip. So odds are we don't make a significant addition to the lineup. We're probably a 45-win team that places 9th or 10th in the West.

              So what are you doing with the $4m in annual savings at the PG position that's so goddamned good?
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                Posted 03 July 2012 - 08:29 PM

                The rumor is Lin will be offered the same deal dragic was, around 8m, according to Feigen.
                Sorry but Dragic is well worth the extra 2m. For the extra rebounds we get from Asik were planning to give them up when Lin turns the ball over.

                Morey, you can do better than Lin.
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                  Posted 03 July 2012 - 08:31 PM

                  The rumor is Lin will be offered the same deal dragic was, around 8m, according to Feigen.
                  Sorry but Dragic is well worth the extra 2m. For the extra rebounds we get from Asik were planning to give them up when Lin turns the ball over.

                  Morey, you can do better than Lin.


                  I imagine the Knicks will match, but I'd still see that as more of the Rockets attempting a money-grab (for the marketing) rather than a good basketball move. I hate that.
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                    Posted 03 July 2012 - 08:46 PM

                    The Knicks might match, I hope they do.. I'd rather have an unhappy Lowry than Lin. For people saying Dragic and Lowry haven't proven themselves Lin is even less proven. Understand there are reasons players go undrafted, you only hear about the one that makes it- not the 150 or more that are forgotten about.
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                      Posted 03 July 2012 - 08:55 PM

                      I misread the report and thought it was over $10mill. If it's 10 flat, I think you have to pay that, even though he's not worth it. Like you guys said above, that still gives you Lowry's trade return. Saving $2millionish but then having to keep Lowry does nothing for you. And I do think, like I've said all year, that Dragic is a better player than Jeremy Lin.
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                        Posted 03 July 2012 - 08:56 PM

                        BTW, I don't see any way that the Knicks don't match.
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                          Posted 03 July 2012 - 09:00 PM

                          I'm really hoping they're just haggling with Dragic and asked him to go see if he could find a better deal. I don't see any chance of the Knicks not matching tomorrow's offer. If you lose Dragic and don't get Lin, you're back to having just Lowry. Now as far as point guard, that's fine as an argument could be made that Lowry is the best of the 3 (though I think Dragic is the best.) But he's far and away our best trade asset, so you just took away a serious avenue through which to improve your team.

                          If that's the outcome - very disappointing.
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                            Posted 03 July 2012 - 09:14 PM

                            If that's the outcome - very disappointing.


                            It's becoming harder to see scenarios that don't end up being very disappointing.
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                              Posted 03 July 2012 - 09:56 PM

                              Dragic for 10mill is way better than Lin for 8, Lin had 2 good weeks and even then it was mostly hype because he was with Knicks. He's a turnover machine. If you look at what other Pgs are getting 10mill isn't crazy it's a little much but he could eventually be worth that and more. For people saying he isn rondo or Paul etc... Well Paul makes almost 19mill so he isn't being paid like Paul even rondo makes over 12. You have to keep your good payers if you want to win especially if you can't get the big free agents because of lack of history of winning (lakers,celts,bulls) or hip market like Miami new York
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                                Posted 04 July 2012 - 12:08 AM

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                                Housekeeping note: Rockets swingman Courtney Lee is now an unrestricted free agent after Rockets withdraw his qualifying offer"

                                So now I'm really lost--are we giving up on Lee now?
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                                  Posted 04 July 2012 - 12:56 AM

                                  Wow. I'm okay letting Lee go, it means we either keep Martin for the year(or deadline) and let Lamb develop behind him, or we find a suitor for Martin and let Lamb start right away. Now, this could also mean we're working with Orlando on Howard and trying to clear room for bad contracts. I doubt that, but it's possible.

                                  It looks like blowing it up is the choice we chose, horrible timing though that shouldve been pre-draft.
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                                    Posted 04 July 2012 - 01:11 AM

                                    I feel like this is probably the right move. I loved Lee but I'm not sure his cost would have been worth it in a rebuilding effort. Though I'm mixed and this is puzzling. This has been one wild week.
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                                      Posted 04 July 2012 - 01:13 AM

                                      Though the logical explanation would seem to be that we have a deal in place for Gordon.
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                                      Posted 04 July 2012 - 01:23 AM

                                      Though the logical explanation would seem to be that we have a deal in place for Gordon.

                                      The Rockets could have easily signed an extension with Lee and Dragic but declined their options last year and now they are free agents. Losing Lee wouldn't hurt as long as Lamb steps up big time. But if they lose Dragic, how does Morey go back and tell Lowry, "umm we always wanted you all long". Lowry knows now he's severely underpaid and is likely to blow a fuse at any little issue
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