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[Lyfestyle]

I think bynum is the right player for Houston. He is a lot more likely to re-sign with us than howard, he is still only 25 and gets better every year. Sure, he may have some immaturity issues but he will get over it with time I'm sure, ill take that any day over Dwight howard, the Dude is one of the biggest bitches in the league. Bynum would still attract just as many players to Houston as howard would have.

I don't think Bynum is very far below Howard on the "bitch" chart, though. We're talking about an emotional child (ask JJ Barea) who launches crazy threes with the game hanging in the balance and put up a monster 10 points and 4 rebounds in their 'win-or-go-home' game against OKC.

Bynum's a HUGE bitch.

[Steven]

The difference from Bynum to Howard's emotional state is huge. Bynum has had lapses of judgement. He hasn't fully grown up. Howard on the other hand doesn't want to go to the Lakers cause of "pressure". He won't be the best center ever for the lakers and so he is whining and crying about going there. How about you man up, play your best and forget about what the idiots say on talk radio? Howard's ego will fill the Staples Center, while Bynum just needs to grow up.

[Lyfestyle]

The difference from Bynum to Howard's emotional state is huge. Bynum has had lapses of judgement. He hasn't fully grown up. Howard on the other hand doesn't want to go to the Lakers cause of "pressure". He won't be the best center ever for the lakers and so he is whining and crying about going there. How about you man up, play your best and forget about what the idiots say on talk radio? Howard's ego will fill the Staples Center, while Bynum just needs to grow up.

I don't totally disagree, I just think the point made earlier saying "Get Bynum because Howard's a bitch" seems to overlook Bynum's bitchishness. If you're making an NBA bitch chart, they're both near the top.

[Alituro]

. He won't be the best center ever for the lakers and so he is whining and crying about going there.

LOL... Neither is he the best ever center in ORL, nor would he be for Houston.. He'd be about the 4th best center ever for Houston, and LAL at best. At least hes ORL's second best center.

[slick shoes]

If that happens we would have to say that Morey is a great GM don't we?

I don't know that this one move puts him in the "great" category. It would definitely validate a lot of the claims about his genius as a GM, but to me, he's not great until he makes us a SERIOUS contender for a ring. Getting a big man is just the first step, not the final solution.

[slick shoes]

The difference from Bynum to Howard's emotional state is huge. Bynum has had lapses of judgement. He hasn't fully grown up. Howard on the other hand doesn't want to go to the Lakers cause of "pressure". He won't be the best center ever for the lakers and so he is whining and crying about going there. How about you man up, play your best and forget about what the idiots say on talk radio? Howard's ego will fill the Staples Center, while Bynum just needs to grow up.

I think DH is also very hesitant to go to LA because of the Shaq comparisons. The "Superman" alter ego, playing for Orlando and demanding a trade, then potentially going to LA the same way Shaq did. He is tired of being overshadowed.

[Mario Peña]

I am on my phone but here is the qoute on twitter:

Adrian Wojnarowski

"After spending most of Tuesday negotiating with the Rockets and Lakers, Orlando has reengaged Brooklyn today..."

Looks as if maybe Orlando is checking with New Jersey to see if they can work a miracle otherwise it would seem Howard is headed to the Lakers or to the Rockets by tonight or tomorrow.

[slick shoes]

Looks as if maybe Orlando is checking with New Jersey to see if they can work a miracle otherwise it would seem Howard is headed to the Lakers or to the Rockets by tonight or tomorrow.

As long as SOMETHING is decided, and soon, I will be a little more satisfied. Seems we refuse to make any type of move until the indecision is resolved.

[blakecouey]

I keep reading that the Nets have set a deadline of today or they are out of the Howard chase, take that for what its worth.

And I'm willing to bet youre right supersonic, another attempt to raise the stakes or theyre taking our deal- I hope.

[Mario Peña]

I would guess the Orlando front office is just making sure they meet with New Jersey one last time, I am sure they are going over anything that could be added or covering any last ditch efforts Brooklyn might have made at trade partners post Cavs and Bobcats. I am sure they built a relationship over the course of the negotiations and a final meeting would be compulsory for both teams and their interests.

[slick shoes]

The Nets are out. Maybe I am jumping the gun, but this REALLY excites me.

[Mario Peña]

So Ric Bucher just wrote an article on ESPN detaling a phone call from Hennigan to Dwight Howard with a plea for more time and patience (to stay put in Orlando till further notice). By all accounts Howard was in no way interested, seems unconcerned with the difficulties the situation poses for the Orlando front office and indicated he still wants to be moved. This is good news for the Rockets but the ball is still in Hennigan's court.

[blakecouey]

My argument all along has been that Howard has little leverage. Why in the hell is Hennigan even talking to him? Howard can say where he wants to play all he wants, he can throw a fit, he can fake an injury, he can say he wont re-sign, but HE CANT ACCEPT/REJECT ANY TRADES. He gave up his leverage when he signed the ETO and agreed to another year. Why are the Magic feeding into his desires when he has made it clear he wont sign with them? Orlando needs to do just like Dwight, look out for themselves. Only difference is they have the ability to do that and he doesnt(til next summer).

You cam reply with "in pro sports thats how it is, superstars cam dictate where they wanma go", but thats absurdity and needs to be taken control of, as its clearly gotten out of control.

[Jeby]

I hate the Lakers. But my dream scenario at this point is for Howard to go to LA with Bynum going to Houston. Here's why...

I think that Howard's big motivation is to have a team that he can leave his fingerprint on, without playing in the shadow of other players. It explains why he wants to go to Brooklyn, a sort of new franchise. It explains why he has indicated he doesn't want to play in Houston (shadow of Moses, Hakeem, Yao) or LA (shadow of Mikan, Wilt, Kareem, Shaq, heck, even Gasol).

I have a feeling that if Dwight goes to LA (or Houston), he'll end up leaving at the end of the season just to prove the point that he's the captain of his own fate and to find a team where he has a chance to be a legend.

[blakecouey]

So you think he goes to Toronto? There arent many places "great" bigs havent left a mark on. If he is more worried about his own goals rather than team accomplishments he will NEVER be in the same category as any of the players you mentioned. Team comes first, which means a championship, then you can pad stats/resume...in LA he'd have that chance.

[Mario Peña]

I was commenting a little more on the actual ongoings concerning us Rocket fans.

As far as the big picture with regards to free agent demands being out of control and the NBA business model/salary cap well those are other debates definitely worth having. I defintely don't have a problem with players (free agents or not) demanding trades.


[Kareem did it in the 70's (demanded a trade to the Knicks or Lakers that was resolved in a little less than a year, the Bucks GM even offered to fire anyone in the Bucks organization)]

[blakecouey]

I dont have a problem with players demanding a trade, or even making a list of places they'd prefer to play in. Giving the magic ONE destination, and being pissy and childlike about anything that is different is where it gets out of hand. This is one reason "super teams" have developed. I can't fault Miami as they did it right...all 3 were free agents, and sign and trades are a great tool. Nobody from Miami made a big drama filled trade demand for over a year either. The Knocks situation is different, where Melo whined just like Howard, but got his way unlike Howard.

In the end I almost expect DH to be a Net, although that means waiting until January 15 when lopez can be traded.

If DH is a Rocket this season I will be surprised, and don't get me wrong id be in love if he resigned with us...

[slick shoes]

In the end I almost expect DH to be a Net, although that means waiting until January 15 when lopez can be traded.

Who do you see eating an ABOVE max contract for Lopez? Terrible, terrible move on the part of the Nets. I see why they signed him, but 4 years/60 mil? Yikes.

[blakecouey]

I don't know. Maybe the Magic? Maybe they wanted a few other pieces instead of picks? It makes no sense. If Orlando wants picks, deal with us or us/lakers. If you want players deal with us, or the nets? Maybe they wanted different players from the nets and are hoping they can sign a few and have them for a DH sign and trade?
None of it makes sense, the Nets blocked themselves from DH unless there is an alternative plan.