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****UPDATED 7/10****
http://espn.go.com/n...des-source-says
ESPN is reporting that the Rockets and Lakers are STILL involved in talks with the Magic for obtaining Dwight. In one scenario we can trade direct with Magic(no other teams involved) and take back DH. In another scenario we can let Dwight go to the Lakers, while Bynum is traded here, and we give up multiple draft picks to the Magic.
Thanks to Steven and Cooper who reported these talks first.
****The above was added 7/10****
http://sports.yahoo....Ay7jujzngw5nYcB
Evidently several teams are talking with Orlando about the possibility of acquiring DH. One of those teams is the Houston Rockets. Now we all know we were trying to get him before and during the draft, but who realistically thought we'd continue to try? Not me. I don't see any trades that Orlando would likely take from us, but maybe the newest Dwightmare is causing them to become desperate to rid themselves of him. Also pursuing Dwight are the Lakers and the Nets(who'd have guessed that).
Okay okay I know by now we're probably all sick and tired of hearing about Dwight Howard and realize it is a long-shot hardly worth our time debating, but here goes.
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*Updated 7/10*[ESPN/Yahoo] Continued Dwight Howard Talks?
Started by blakecouey, Jul 01 2012 07:31 PM
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Posted 01 July 2012 - 09:41 PM
Lakers: If they give up Bynum then I think they get Howard. Not sure why they would want both of them. I don't see them being able to play together. They don't seem to want to give up Bynum though.
Nets: Have no assets to acquire Howard.
Rockets: Have the most assets of the three teams and would probably be better than the other two in the long term. Rockets would take on some bad contracts and give the Magic more cap room.
I doubt that the Rockets end up getting him but it seems like we have the most to offer. Maybe a 3-way with the Nets where we get Brook (who the Magic seem to not particularly want)?
Nets: Have no assets to acquire Howard.
Rockets: Have the most assets of the three teams and would probably be better than the other two in the long term. Rockets would take on some bad contracts and give the Magic more cap room.
I doubt that the Rockets end up getting him but it seems like we have the most to offer. Maybe a 3-way with the Nets where we get Brook (who the Magic seem to not particularly want)?
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Posted 01 July 2012 - 10:47 PM
I wouldnt be opposed to Brook Lopez, I'd certainly rather him than Asik. Injury wise, if he's given as much time as needed to recover I think he can get past it.
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Posted 01 July 2012 - 11:55 PM
It will be interesting to see what happens now with this signing (if it goes through). I doubt it affects them trying to get Howard but do they then try to deal Asik later in the year if they get it done?
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Posted 02 July 2012 - 01:34 AM
I don't think theyll trade Asik if they get Howard, UNLESS Howard resigns with us after the season. I don't think Asik's salary would cause us enough problems if Howard is around only a year.
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Posted 02 July 2012 - 02:38 AM
I actually posted that before I saw the contract. Doubtful they trade him.
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glad you're on board, but I been on this boat since it left
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Posted 02 July 2012 - 03:04 AM
after our mini dwightmare draft night I am starting to have 2nd thoughts on him. if he is going thru this much crap not to come to houston then maybe we should leave him alone. I still want him, but I am starting to get iffy.
you can only warn a man that the bridge is out.....if he keeps driving he's on his own 
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Posted 02 July 2012 - 03:09 AM
You and me both. What kind of stunt is he going to pull if we got him? Faked injuries? I want him minus the behavior, sadly though that's not an option.
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Posted 02 July 2012 - 03:12 AM
that's my fear of us getting here. we give up good assets and he starts acting outYou and me both. What kind of stunt is he going to pull if we got him? Faked injuries? I want him minus the behavior, sadly though that's not an option.
you can only warn a man that the bridge is out.....if he keeps driving he's on his own
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Posted 02 July 2012 - 03:17 AM
I hate Dwight Howard! That Diva Princess can break his back and never play again for all I care. Look at all of the drama he is causing! His own team does't even want him there. He has no team loyalty, got his coach fired, pulls some blackmail BS and cries until he gets his way. The NBA is fire grown men, not the wannabe Justin Beiber's of the world!
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Posted 02 July 2012 - 03:29 AM
I don't support Dwight but he has earned the right to be a diva with his play on the court.
The only thing i fault him on is that he had a chance to end all the debacle by opting out but relented to public pressure, cos he didnt wanna be the next nba bad guy aka Lebron.
How come owners can randomly trade players under contract to them to another team, and the owners enjoy a good night's sleep while the traded player ha to start a new life in a weird new town. But when a player under contract demands a trade, he's a diva.
Not saying i like what Dwight is doing, but both him and Orlando are at fault here. He told them he wanted to opt out at the end of the season to be a free agent and sign with the Nets. They didn't wanna lose him for nothing and asked him for a list of teams to trade him to. He listed lakers, mavs and nets, although now its common knowledge he wanted nets all along but didnt wanna tip his hand. His team played along, babied him, gave him everything he wanted until he signed on the dotted line.
The only thing i fault him on is that he had a chance to end all the debacle by opting out but relented to public pressure, cos he didnt wanna be the next nba bad guy aka Lebron.
How come owners can randomly trade players under contract to them to another team, and the owners enjoy a good night's sleep while the traded player ha to start a new life in a weird new town. But when a player under contract demands a trade, he's a diva.
Not saying i like what Dwight is doing, but both him and Orlando are at fault here. He told them he wanted to opt out at the end of the season to be a free agent and sign with the Nets. They didn't wanna lose him for nothing and asked him for a list of teams to trade him to. He listed lakers, mavs and nets, although now its common knowledge he wanted nets all along but didnt wanna tip his hand. His team played along, babied him, gave him everything he wanted until he signed on the dotted line.
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Posted 02 July 2012 - 05:05 AM
RedStewie! You know this about Dwight how? Look how he acts during press conferences and around his coach! Quit giving this chode the benefit of the doubt! Yes, he is a great player, but your statement is comparable to a women saying "Yes he beats me, but he is great in bed, so that's why I stick around!" Its pathetic and I wouldn't want this plague/virus of Dwight on the Rockets!
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Yeah some women do it, but its their prerogative.
I do not support his actions, but I believe Orland pressured him into opting in. I wouldn't go as far as using the words "blackmail" and "manipulate" cos Howard is an adult who also happens to have a millionaire Lawyer. His lawyer allegedly refused to sign his opt-in contract, and only Howard signed it (although his lawyer's signature was not mandatory). That goes to show you that he had good advice not to do it and still did it. We all saw the debacle play out on tv, with the Devoe family bringing his family into the talks and having his mom talk to him- invoking the bible and everything sacred. Plus Orlando did not want to lose Dwight like they lost shaq for nothing, and did everything worthwhile to make him sign that contract include playing on his emotions of not wanting to be a bad guy like Lebron.
Both parties are to blame and I wish they would just get over it.
If your boss was to send you a text tomorrow telling you that they just transferred you to the company branch in cleveland ohio, you would suck it up and move ass over there. Why? Cos you are an average employee and if you lose this job, it will be tough finding another one. However if you are one of the leading brains behind your company and have been increasing revenue since being hired, you can ask to be transferred to their Hollywood branch. Why? if they say no, they lose all those revenues you have been bringing in and you know you can easily get another job.
If you are gonna blame players for such attitudes, then what about the owners that randomly trade them. These players are human too, i believe if you earned the right to be a diva, then go on and be a diva.
I have a problem with diva like attitudes when players like Aaron Brooks and Lowry after only one good season start singing like Patti LaBelle
I do not support his actions, but I believe Orland pressured him into opting in. I wouldn't go as far as using the words "blackmail" and "manipulate" cos Howard is an adult who also happens to have a millionaire Lawyer. His lawyer allegedly refused to sign his opt-in contract, and only Howard signed it (although his lawyer's signature was not mandatory). That goes to show you that he had good advice not to do it and still did it. We all saw the debacle play out on tv, with the Devoe family bringing his family into the talks and having his mom talk to him- invoking the bible and everything sacred. Plus Orlando did not want to lose Dwight like they lost shaq for nothing, and did everything worthwhile to make him sign that contract include playing on his emotions of not wanting to be a bad guy like Lebron.
Both parties are to blame and I wish they would just get over it.
If your boss was to send you a text tomorrow telling you that they just transferred you to the company branch in cleveland ohio, you would suck it up and move ass over there. Why? Cos you are an average employee and if you lose this job, it will be tough finding another one. However if you are one of the leading brains behind your company and have been increasing revenue since being hired, you can ask to be transferred to their Hollywood branch. Why? if they say no, they lose all those revenues you have been bringing in and you know you can easily get another job.
If you are gonna blame players for such attitudes, then what about the owners that randomly trade them. These players are human too, i believe if you earned the right to be a diva, then go on and be a diva.
I have a problem with diva like attitudes when players like Aaron Brooks and Lowry after only one good season start singing like Patti LaBelle
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Posted 02 July 2012 - 02:02 PM
First off, if he had sound advice to not sign the opt in, THEN WHY DID HE SIGN IT IF HE WANTED TO GO TO BROOKLYN? This shows you that he made the decision on his own if he signed it and his lawyer didn't. Your second point is just as useless as the first in that Orlando doesn't care where Dwight wants to play! He has no say as a superstar! Management will send him where ever they want to get the best value for their team not Dwight Howard. So you are little anology is wrong because Dwight will not get to Princess it to where ever he wants, but will have to pony up and go to whatever team Orlando can get the best value for him. Further, in your analogy you state that you move to a different city with the same company. You do realize that if Dwight moved to a different city, he would no longer be with the same company/team?
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Posted 02 July 2012 - 02:13 PM
Analogies aside, I agree Dwight has no say as to where he goes. Although, if he goes somewhere he doesnt want to be, that won't turn out well. I see nothing about his personality that leads me to believe that he wouldn't fake an injury or elect to get a surgery to postpone playing with the new team.
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Posted 02 July 2012 - 02:14 PM
Actually Chris Weber was the last superstar that got traded somewhere he specifically did not want to go to (not counting Deron Williams who did not even get to the point of making a list, superstars usually don't get sent to teams they dont want to play for), Chris Paul wanted LA and there he is and Carmelo wanted New York and that is where he went. It is what it is. Superstars more often than not go where they want to go ever since the days of Kareem Abdul Jabar, it's nothing new.
How sweet it is!
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Posted 02 July 2012 - 04:11 PM
i think Howard actually has a say in where he wants to go.
He has vowed he will only resign with one team which has scared every other team that could potentially trade for him except for a brave Houston and LA.
Houston does not have a young stars that Orlando would want, LA has Bynum.
He will resign if traded to Lakers but he doesn't want to do everything shaq did in the past.
The only way Orlando will trade him to Houston is to spite him, and I don't see that happening. Especially since the reason he opted in was to give them a chance to get something back for him as opposed to leaving like Shaq. They can't repay him back like that or its gonna get uglier.
Chris Webber played in an era where players really had no say, its no surprise that marquee players run the league now. Deron never said "trade me to this team or that team", he just wanted out after the confrontations with sloan" The others got their wish.
He has vowed he will only resign with one team which has scared every other team that could potentially trade for him except for a brave Houston and LA.
Houston does not have a young stars that Orlando would want, LA has Bynum.
He will resign if traded to Lakers but he doesn't want to do everything shaq did in the past.
The only way Orlando will trade him to Houston is to spite him, and I don't see that happening. Especially since the reason he opted in was to give them a chance to get something back for him as opposed to leaving like Shaq. They can't repay him back like that or its gonna get uglier.
Chris Webber played in an era where players really had no say, its no surprise that marquee players run the league now. Deron never said "trade me to this team or that team", he just wanted out after the confrontations with sloan" The others got their wish.
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Posted 02 July 2012 - 04:25 PM
I am arguing that Howard has a big say in where he is going, it is nothing new.
How sweet it is!
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Posted 02 July 2012 - 04:41 PM
feelingsupersonic, i was agreeing with you, im sorry if it wasn't obvious. But yeah you are right, he has a big say where he goes.
Its sad the debacle has come down to this, but it is what it is. I dont mind the extra nba news during offseason
Its sad the debacle has come down to this, but it is what it is. I dont mind the extra nba news during offseason
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Posted 02 July 2012 - 04:54 PM
right on dude, it will definitely be better when the Dwightmare is over, I would rather be discussing things like does Miller keep the Nuggets in the top 8 WC teams or does KG in Boston keep them nipping at Miami's heels, real basketball stuff, not the drama crap...
How sweet it is!
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