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[blakecouey]

This doesn't change that we can do a sign and trade with NO, but it ensures what we knew(that Gordon would get a Max Offer)

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Chris Broussard ‏@Chris_Broussard
Eric Gordon and the Phoenix Suns agree to a Maximum Offer sheet worth $58 million over 4 years, sources said.

Chris Broussard ‏@Chris_Broussard
Gordon told me his desire is to play in Phoenix, not New Orleans.

[JarredAllen]

lol Anthony Davis and Austin Rivers for Scola and Martin!!!!! DOOOO ITTTTT! DOOOO ITTTT! lol

[blakecouey]

Woj(yahoo) is saying sources confirm that the Hornets will match the Suns max offer.

Ill repeat- sign and trade is still available for the Rockets. Had we offered Gordon and it was matched we would be unable to receive him in trade.

[Sir Thursday]

If New Orleans decides he's not worth the max (and they just might), then it's in their interests to facilitate a sign-and-trade with Phoenix. They hold leverage because if Gordon signs to Phoenix's offer sheet and NO matches, then not only does Gordon stay with NO, but he CANNOT be traded Phoenix after signing. As a result, they should be able to get something back for him. But both they and Phoenix are in rebuilding mode, so they don't really want to be giving up young assets in trade.

That's where we come in. We've got a ton of young assets we can package to facilitate that deal. I would love it if we could figure out a way to nab Gortat - he doesn't really fit with what NO are doing, but he would definitely improve our team. If the trade was going to be Gordon for Gortat + filler, then we could offer to take Gortat and give NO some of our younger players instead. While they are set for the future at PF with Davis, they could probably do with an SF/PF tweener. Maybe Terrence Jones? He already knows how to play with Davis, after all...

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[blakecouey]

He signed an offer with another team, so no way in hell they can sign and trade him. If they match, they r keeping him.
Or they can let walk to Phoenix.
At this point, its either Phoenix or NO.
House money says NO matches.
Rockets never had a shot.
I just hope a team offers Dragic 12 mil

This is untrue. If a team offers a contract to a RFA(PHX) and the original team(NO) matches that offer the player CAN NOT be signed and traded to the team that made the offer(PHX). This means Houston not offering a contract means it is more likely that we try a sign and trade. Phoenix is out of it if the contract is matched.
This being said, if we had felt Gordon was worth a max contract yet still didn't offer it to him, we are in prime position for a sign and trade. Odds may still be higher that the Hornets keep him after they match, but we can't be counted out yet.

Couple all this with us pulling Courtney Lee's qualifying offer and it's even more likely that we attempt a sign and trade.

[Mario Peña]

I agree that the Lee situation hints that the Rockets are probably making calls to Demps. Now it remains to be seen if they are taking calls for Gordon but I would guess they will probably keep him.

The problem might be in the details. It would seem that there are enough players to trade but the numbers (contracts) and goals (staying young) might cause conflicts between the Rockets and Hornets.

[Ostrow]

Although Gordon technically hasn't signed an offer sheet yet so he could still work out a sign and trade to PHX or anywhere else for that matter. I read somewhere that the Rockets actually have an offer to/deal with Lee still on the table, but they wanted to get rid of the cap hold so they made him UFA but they still think we're getting him back.

[Ostrow]

They can't trade him to the team that signed him to an offer sheet for a year. They can trade him to anyone else during that year with the permission of the player.

[blakecouey]

Not true, a restricted free agent signs an offer sheet with another team, and his original team matches, they cant trade him to the other team. They cant even trade him to another team for a year and that would also require the players approval once the time has passed

http://www.cbafaq.co...larycap.htm#Q43
You're right. Hurts to say that.

If the team matches an offer sheet and retains their free agent, then for one year they cannot trade him without his consent, and cannot trade him at all to the team that signed him to an offer sheet. They also can't trade the player in a sign-and-trade transaction

[Ostrow]

We should offer Brook Lopez the Max. He has to take it, Nets have to match, Howard can't be traded there.

[Ostrow]

That's my point. They want Howard, BUT they want Lopez a lot more than they want no one. We make him untradeable. Nets have no one to deal. One competitor is gone.

[Ostrow]

Offer Lopez before the official Asik offer? And deal one or both of them before. Or amnesty one of them? Hopefully somehow that works out to enough money.