Jump to content


Toggle shoutbox Shoutbox Open the Shoutbox in a popup

@  thenit : (03 December 2015 - 05:38 AM) Not a complete game, but the effort was there, and voila we are at least competitive even when we arent playing well
@  cointurtlemoose : (03 December 2015 - 04:44 AM) Corey Brewer went from being absolutely horrible (whole season) to being the Corey Brewer that we all remember and love (tonight)!
@  thenit : (03 December 2015 - 03:02 AM) yep and lawson is having his bst game so far in the season
@  slick shoes : (03 December 2015 - 02:53 AM) it's crazy what happens when the rockets play defense.
@  thenit : (03 December 2015 - 01:46 AM) Not looking good after the 1st Q tonight either.
@  thenit : (01 December 2015 - 04:56 AM) It doesnt help when Bev looks like he lost a step since the surgery and now we have 2 wing defenders who can't defend. So Bev has become Lin with worse offensive skills and shooting
@  thenit : (01 December 2015 - 04:55 AM) Thought last year he finally got it by at least exerting effort and by seeing the results he will be even more willing to play a two way game. Sadly I was completely wrong, he is worse than his first year here
@  thenit : (01 December 2015 - 04:53 AM) Harden is the new Carmelo, high volume usage, scorer, with no D and effort. Will never win a championship with him
@  thenit : (01 December 2015 - 04:52 AM) Its the curse of the Kardashian clan, seriously though Harden can score 80 and it still be close because he doesn't defend. Too many times he just stands there. Not even trying, fame has gone to his head.
@  Jatman20 : (01 December 2015 - 04:08 AM) Opps....on us
@  Jatman20 : (01 December 2015 - 04:07 AM) Rockets have gone Wizard of Oz no us !! No Heart (Harden still looks heartbroken over Chloe), No courage and No Brains (Bickerstaff is less of a coach than McHale at this stage in their careers).
@  majik19 : (01 December 2015 - 03:29 AM) We should've fired Bickerstaff, not McHale. Our defense is killing us.
@  Jatman20 : (01 December 2015 - 02:54 AM) Time to go scorched earth on the Rockets roster!!
@  Cooper : (01 December 2015 - 02:28 AM) on the semi plus side Lawson doesn't look like the absolute worst player in the league.
@  Willk : (01 December 2015 - 01:29 AM) this team needs to be booed from the start of the game to the end of the game during their next home game. This effort is pathetic
@  cointurtlemoose : (30 November 2015 - 03:32 AM) A mix of really bad and really good tonight, but it was a gutsy comeback!
@  slick shoes : (30 November 2015 - 01:38 AM) that was more of a rhetorical question, but good to see you're on your game ;)
@  jorgeaam : (29 November 2015 - 08:12 PM) 7/12 shooting from the field, 8/9 from the line
@  jorgeaam : (29 November 2015 - 08:12 PM) 6, he also had 5 assists and 7 rebounds
@  slick shoes : (29 November 2015 - 05:46 PM) how many treys did Covington bury?

Photo

Rudy Gay


  • This topic is locked This topic is locked
68 replies to this topic

#41 NorEastern

NorEastern

    Junior Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 375 posts

    Posted 12 June 2012 - 02:48 AM

    And for all the rest of you - Parsons is a rare commodity. I face palmed so hard when the Rockets passed on Leonard last draft I bruised my forehead. Just goes to show how much I know.
    • 0

    #42 NorEastern

    NorEastern

      Junior Member

    • Members
    • PipPipPip
    • 375 posts

      Posted 12 June 2012 - 03:12 AM

      I never never like to defend Red Stewie, but in this case everyone seems to be arguing Parsons will be better than Gay in a few years. I think this disregards two things. Stewie brings up a single very good point. Parsons cannot be your offensive creator now. I don't believe he will ever have that ability.

      I think we should also realize that Parsons who already plays mentally sound like Patterson is more than likely not going to have a huge jump in productivity. His shot will clean up some, but he isn't going to become a great shooter (hopefully good) and he certainly isn't suddenly going to have an NBA level ability to dribble and break down defenders.

      Thus I think Red Stewie is right about us being a little too in love with Chandler Parsons and while we shouldn't get Rudy Gay because of his contract. If they had the same contract today, or even were withing the same order of magnitude then it would be a sound trade.

      To win in the NBA you need someone that can score in isolation and then you need to come up with good schemes to let them attack and break down a defense. You do need to play good defense, but unless you can win a one on one matchup you won't ever amount to anything.


      You also need an elite defender. Those are really hard to come by. Most players will be looking at LBJ's butt crack. How many teams have one? SA, OKC, Memphis, Philly, ??? There are more but I cannot think of them right now.
      • 0

      #43 Guest_RedStewie_*

      Guest_RedStewie_*
      • Guests

      Posted 12 June 2012 - 03:35 AM

      Stewie - I can help you to become a much more effective poster. You would not be the subject to such distain.

      Help yourself son. If your former posts were anything about your effective writing prowess including the line "Parsons is a rare commodity.", then i'd hate to see what you sounded like before you became effective.

      Oh and the disdain don't bother me. Sometimes some people prefer lies and half-truths instead of embracing the truth- so i will speak the truth and disdain be damned. I don't hold my tongue for nobody, God or human.
      • 0

      #44 NorEastern

      NorEastern

        Junior Member

      • Members
      • PipPipPip
      • 375 posts

        Posted 12 June 2012 - 01:15 PM

        Help yourself son. If your former posts were anything about your effective writing prowess including the line "Parsons is a rare commodity.", then i'd hate to see what you sounded like before you became effective.

        Oh and the disdain don't bother me. Sometimes some people prefer lies and half-truths instead of embracing the truth- so i will speak the truth and disdain be damned. I don't hold my tongue for nobody, God or human.


        Stewie - you are irrelevant. You now nothing - Lee on Kobe LOL. Damn do you even watch NBA games? Statements like that just show everyone that you don't have a clue. So please go away. I offered to help you and you refused. Good bye.
        • 0

        #45 Guest_RedStewie_*

        Guest_RedStewie_*
        • Guests

        Posted 12 June 2012 - 05:33 PM

        Lol, you know what. I remembered the games yall 3 numb nuts are hammering about.
        Lee had 2 quick fouls, got sent to the bench and Parsons was relegated to guard him.
        And then the next game, the coach relegated Parsons to guard Kobe again cos he was effective last game, but still switched with Lee during the game.

        Which makes total sense because they play different positions.
        Quick question dumbEastern- if the Rockets played the Heat or the Knicks, what position do you think Parsons would be guarding- SG or SF.

        Try not to think too hard genius
        • 0

        #46 Rahat Huq

        Rahat Huq

          Administrator

        • Administrators
        • 1,547 posts

          Posted 12 June 2012 - 05:55 PM

          Alright guys, let's try and maintain some civility. As this is the newest, smallest, Rockets community, I don't want to lose that intimacy we had enjoyed before the first season (with the forum) even begins.
          • 0

          #47 blakecouey

          blakecouey

            Red94 Chief of Police

          • Moderators
          • 1,590 posts

            Posted 12 June 2012 - 06:11 PM

            I think he'd be guarding the best offensive player on the opponents team, with your two examples it would(under normal situations) be the Small Forwards. Then again anyone can hand pick two match ups to halfway prove a point. The fact is while Gay may be the better player Parsons is on a much better contract and as has been mentioned as well, we have bigger needs to address.

            Stewie- removed because Rahat wants civility.

            Edited by blakecouey, 12 June 2012 - 06:19 PM.

            • 0

            #48 Mario Peña

            Mario Peña

              Officer

            • Moderators
            • 2,323 posts
            • LocationHouston, TX

            Posted 12 June 2012 - 09:39 PM

            If you could keep the exchanges here civil and mature that would be great Huq. That seems to be a great thing about this forum.

            I thought it was funny that I was called a groupie and that I agree with everything you say Blake because I distinctly remembering debating the merits of the Rockets persuing Bosh and Amare and disagreeing with you yet we found a civil way to disagree.

            And just in case it was not clear, I never said Parsons was or will be better than Gay. (a statement I have already posted)
            • 0
            I can't stand the Warriors!

            #49 NorEastern

            NorEastern

              Junior Member

            • Members
            • PipPipPip
            • 375 posts

              Posted 12 June 2012 - 10:30 PM

              Lol, you know what. I remembered the games yall 3 numb nuts are hammering about.
              Lee had 2 quick fouls, got sent to the bench and Parsons was relegated to guard him.
              And then the next game, the coach relegated Parsons to guard Kobe again cos he was effective last game, but still switched with Lee during the game.

              Which makes total sense because they play different positions.
              Quick question dumbEastern- if the Rockets played the Heat or the Knicks, what position do you think Parsons would be guarding- SG or SF.

              Try not to think too hard genius


              That question is so trivial I cannot believe you even asked it. LBJ and Melo dude. And I typed in 2 sentences that I erased. They were way to harsh.
              • 0

              #50 NorEastern

              NorEastern

                Junior Member

              • Members
              • PipPipPip
              • 375 posts

                Posted 12 June 2012 - 11:29 PM

                You know I am really getting sick of your childish behavior. If you are going to be questioning my opinions you had better bring your A game. And you had better know your BB. Stating that Parsons did not guard Kobe is sort of like wearing an "I am a Stupid" tee shirt. More than that you have to know NCAA and Euroleague BB. You have to have years of practice evaluation NBA talent. You have to know the horns offensive set when you see it. Zipper cut? Do you know what a pick and pop/roll is? Describe to me what a low post entry pass is. That should be easy.
                • 0

                #51 blakecouey

                blakecouey

                  Red94 Chief of Police

                • Moderators
                • 1,590 posts

                  Posted 13 June 2012 - 01:11 AM

                  If you could keep the exchanges here civil and mature that would be great Huq. That seems to be a great thing about this forum.

                  I thought it was funny that I was called a groupie and that I agree with everything you say Blake because I distinctly remembering debating the merits of the Rockets persuing Bosh and Amare and disagreeing with you yet we found a civil way to disagree.

                  And just in case it was not clear, I never said Parsons was or will be better than Gay. (a statement I have already posted)

                  Yep, I appreciate conflicting opinions backed with facts, analysis, and hypothesis, but I will not be disrespected. There is a way to civilly debate topics, sadly though some people require a more harsh introduction to reality.
                  This site is directed at the intelligent die-hard fans, you don't just stumble upon it like the other sites. The fact that there are only about ten active/quality posters here shows how dedicated we all are, one person ruining that isn't right.

                  Anyways, Parsons > Gay as far as the Rockets are concerned((((((In my opinion))))))
                  • 0

                  #52 amacbrooks12

                  amacbrooks12

                    Junior Member

                  • Members
                  • PipPipPip
                  • 161 posts
                  • LocationBronx, New York

                  Posted 13 June 2012 - 01:48 AM

                  Hey Red Stewie .. im not afraid to say it . Chandler Parsons will be better than Rudy Gay in 2 or 3 years , especially on the offensive end . Deal with it
                  • 0

                  #53 NorEastern

                  NorEastern

                    Junior Member

                  • Members
                  • PipPipPip
                  • 375 posts

                    Posted 13 June 2012 - 02:12 AM

                    Alright guys, let's try and maintain some civility. As this is the newest, smallest, Rockets community, I don't want to lose that intimacy we had enjoyed before the first season (with the forum) even begins.


                    I have bit my tongue so many times now ... if you want I will leave. Not a problem.
                    • 0

                    #54 Rahat Huq

                    Rahat Huq

                      Administrator

                    • Administrators
                    • 1,547 posts

                      Posted 13 June 2012 - 02:16 AM

                      I have bit my tongue so many times now ... if you want I will leave. Not a problem.

                      Not directed at you. We all know who the instigator has been.
                      • 0

                      #55 Guest_RedStewie_*

                      Guest_RedStewie_*
                      • Guests

                      Posted 13 June 2012 - 02:19 AM

                      I have bit my tongue so many times now ... if you want I will leave. Not a problem.

                      Posted Image
                      • 0

                      #56 Guest_RedStewie_*

                      Guest_RedStewie_*
                      • Guests

                      Posted 13 June 2012 - 02:22 AM

                      Not directed at you. We all know who the instigator has been.

                      Come on Rahat, the name calling wasn't one-sided, it was coming on from both sides.
                      I didn't call any names, until I was being told I was dumb or stupid when it comes to basketball and other stuff.
                      Although enough with the he said, she said. I'm done with this.
                      Its not like Rudy Gay is going cut me a check for defending him or Parsons is gonna come to your homecoming dance NorEastern.
                      So lets just leave it at that
                      • 0

                      #57 NorEastern

                      NorEastern

                        Junior Member

                      • Members
                      • PipPipPip
                      • 375 posts

                        Posted 13 June 2012 - 02:22 AM

                        I am totally OK with any and everyone's opinion. If it is stated as an opinion. But when it is stated as fact I have a hard time leaving the ignorance alone. Parsons did not guard Kobe because he is a SG. LOL. He gave up any and all cred he had with that 1 simple statement. And then he just keeps coming back for more. Like I said - more than happy to leave if you want me to. But why would you ever go with ignorant quantity and not quality I will never know.
                        • 0

                        #58 Guest_RedStewie_*

                        Guest_RedStewie_*
                        • Guests

                        Posted 13 June 2012 - 02:26 AM

                        I am totally OK with any and everyone's opinion. If it is stated as an opinion. But when it is stated as fact I have a hard time leaving the ignorance alone. Parsons did not guard Kobe because he is a SG. LOL. He gave up any and all cred he had with that 1 simple statement. And then he just keeps coming back for more. Like I said - more than happy to leave if you want me to. But why would you ever go with ignorant quantity and not quality I will never know.

                        There you go again with that BS, everything that comes out of your mouth is a fact.
                        Everything else you disagree with is an opinion.
                        I said Parson doesn't guard Kobee, not that Parson never guarded Kobe- why?
                        Because they play different positions- THATS A FACT
                        Kobe is traditionally guarded by lee ever since Battier left.- ANOTHER FACT.

                        C. Lee got into foul trouble and Parson guarded Kobe while he was- ANOTHER FACT
                        After the game, Kobe appluaded Parsons for his defense- Another FACT.

                        If C.Lee was never in foul trouble, he would have guarded Kobe all game- OPINION.
                        • 0

                        #59 NorEastern

                        NorEastern

                          Junior Member

                        • Members
                        • PipPipPip
                        • 375 posts

                          Posted 13 June 2012 - 02:28 AM

                          And I do have articles already prepped for publishing. Like how do you value picks in the 2012 draft. Lots of tables and graphs. But that is what I do best.
                          • 0

                          #60 Guest_RedStewie_*

                          Guest_RedStewie_*
                          • Guests

                          Posted 13 June 2012 - 02:32 AM

                          And I do have articles already prepped for publishing. Like how do you value picks in the 2012 draft. Lots of tables and graphs. But that is what I do best.

                          Dude, listen to me. Go to the nearest high window, open it and jump off with your over-important self
                          If you don't die or break any of your legs the first time- repeat multiple times until you achieve said results.

                          You got articles prepped- ok STEPHEN A SMITH. At the end of the day, it is your freaking opinion.
                          If you're gonna call someone else ignorant or stupid, then i don't know why any one else is coming to your defense if not for the fact that they are die-hard homers.
                          I know where you can shove your graphs and charts.
                          You make it sound like you're too important. I think someone lied to you
                          • 0




                          1 user(s) are reading this topic

                          0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users