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#1
Posted 23 April 2012 - 01:51 PM
#2
Posted 23 April 2012 - 02:05 PM
you can only warn a man that the bridge is out.....if he keeps driving he's on his own
#3
Posted 23 April 2012 - 02:16 PM
#4
Posted 23 April 2012 - 02:21 PM
based on the fact that the rockets made moves at the trade deadline to improve the team leads me to believe they were trying to make the playoffs. they just fell flat on their facesThe meteoric collapse in the last few weeks almost smells like it was done intentionally, especially after they were playing so well. It just seems like a team would almost have to do it on purpose to lose that many big games, especially at home.
you can only warn a man that the bridge is out.....if he keeps driving he's on his own
#5
Posted 23 April 2012 - 02:41 PM
#6
Posted 23 April 2012 - 02:47 PM
They didn't make the playoffs because of overriding circumstances - they're just not good enough. But I don't know if you can blame that on Morey because, how could they be good enough without an opportunity to get elite talent?
As far as what they need to do, I have absolutely no idea. Firing McHale isn't the answer. I think he overall did a good job.
#7
Posted 23 April 2012 - 02:53 PM
I know. I'm not big on baseball either. It's a tuff time to be a rockets fan. I have a friend who's favorite team is who ever the rockets are playing ............time to circle the wagons. true rockets fans have to stick together.I'm just being an instigator. It just sucks to see your team crash and burn like that. I really hate baseball, and the playoffs are the best reason to delay hearing about the Yankees' latest $300 million new-join.
you can only warn a man that the bridge is out.....if he keeps driving he's on his own
#8
Posted 23 April 2012 - 02:54 PM
Not to mention football also being quite a ways away.I'm just being an instigator. It just sucks to see your team crash and burn like that. I really hate baseball, and the playoffs are the best reason to delay hearing about the Yankees' latest $300 million new-join.
No need to apologize though. Being critical of one's team doesn't somehow lessen fandom. Many have yet to realize that though.
#9
Posted 23 April 2012 - 06:59 PM
McHale did as good as anyone could with what he has to work with, I'd be in favor of holding on to him a bit, as was said before, I think he'd be the right guy for helping develop young talent.
These are the only 2 players on our team anywhere close to being an all-star ('cept Dragic, but who knew?), so of course when they went down, it had the most dramatic influence on our success or lack thereof. Had it been known that neither player would have been able to compete 100% for the rest of the season, I would have expected us to take an intentional nose dive grasping for some more lotto balls.
I can't stand baseball either, but at least some time will be taken up by the Olympics.
#10
Posted 23 April 2012 - 07:34 PM
Also, people can say whatever they want about the guy, but KEVIN MARTIN WAS OUR LEADING SCORER, and you can contribute the
We played significantly better without Kevin Martin on the court virtually all season long. He shot 41% from the field while contributing less than 3 rebounds and assists per game. If anything, our missing the playoffs is due more to the 40 games Martin appeared in than those he missed.
I think the blame lies on an overall lack of talent that eventually caught up to us. We played over our payscale for awhile, but ultimately we just weren't good enough.
#11
Posted 23 April 2012 - 09:08 PM
#12
Posted 23 April 2012 - 09:24 PM
Martin's value went beyond his numbers though.
You may have a point regarding his value in context of our team, but he was still terrible this season. Per 82games.com, the Rockets were -15 this season with him on the court, scoring .6 points fewer per 100 possessions while giving up 2.2 points MORE when he was on the court.
Here's another take: What's Kevin Martin's trade value today? I'd wager it's close to nothing (considering his $13m pricetag). Short of being injured ALL season, he had as poor a year as could be imagined.
#13
Posted 23 April 2012 - 10:22 PM
i imagine the only value he has is as an expiring contract (next year). unless a contending team found a large amount of cap space and couldnt sign any free agent. they might be interested in him, but again only because he has one year left on his contract now.
#14
Posted 23 April 2012 - 10:37 PM
I was discussing this very topic the other day with someone in the know. He told me, "teams don't just forget how good a player is."Here's another take: What's Kevin Martin's trade value today? I'd wager it's close to nothing (considering his $13m pricetag). Short of being injured ALL season, he had as poor a year as could be imagined.
He's plugged in more than I am, but I sort of disagree...in Martin's case, there's the possibility that he's been hampered by the new rules, in which case, it's not about having an off-year and reverting but rather, a potential permanent regression.
We'll see. I think the best fit for him is Chicago. (I'm basing that on my own thoughts, not anything I've heard.) I think your best bet is to engineer some sort of 3-way landing him with the Bulls and adding a young player to our own roster from some 3rd team.
Sad to see how our assets decline almost every year.
#15
Posted 24 April 2012 - 01:28 AM
you can only warn a man that the bridge is out.....if he keeps driving he's on his own
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